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Reply #15 - Feb 13^th, 2014 at 2:56pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 2:46pm:

viewpoint wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 2:45pm:

Well that useless idiot Bull Shitten......or should I say Stan Laurel just sits there like a fcken clown contributing absolutely nothing at all. Just sits there with a puzzled look on his mug.

Good old Brony....kick the labtards out..... Grin

pointlessview wants a parliament with just one party present ... works better for you that way doesn't it pointless.

Ah.....the usual inane drivel from the little fat señora..............

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Reply #17 - Feb 13^th, 2014 at 2:59pm

matty wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 2:55pm:

While I agree with you, John, it puzzles me why you never asked this question when Labor was in power, considering that you joined as long ago as 2012.

I don't normally watch question time and hadn't really noticed it before

In my personal opinion, DDs are pathetic and a waste of time. Instead of the 10-10 rule (questions asked by the Opposition and Government respectively) it should be something like 15-5.

As for Bishop, yes unfortunately like most all Speakers with the exception of Slipper, she is biased. She is about on a par with Jenkins, though both are (were in Jenkins' case) far better than Burke was.

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Reply #18 - Feb 13^th, 2014 at 2:59pm

viewpoint wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 2:56pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 2:46pm:

viewpoint wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 2:45pm:

Well that useless idiot Bull Shitten......or should I say Stan Laurel just sits there like a fcken clown contributing absolutely nothing at all. Just sits there with a puzzled look on his mug.

Good old Brony....kick the labtards out..... Grin

pointlessview wants a parliament with just one party present ... works better for you that way doesn't it pointless.

Ah.....the usual inane drivel from the little fat señora..............

you shouldn't call yourself little and fat .... I can suggest some good books to help you with your self esteem

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Reply #19 - Feb 13^th, 2014 at 3:01pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 2:22pm:

Just tried to watch a little of question time ... what a joke

It always is. To be honest that's kind of why I enjoy listening to it, a kind of masochism that the people there are running the country

Also, question time is a perfect name, because that's all there ever is. Questions, no answers.

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Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act

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Reply #20 - Feb 13^th, 2014 at 3:03pm

I always found the Dorothy Dixer questions completely demeaning to the backbencher made to ask it. Can you imagine someone like Kevin Rudd standing up and asking one while he was on the backbench? And then there's the condescending way they minister answers it - "I thank the member for x for their question, and I know what an important issue this is for the honourable member... blah blah blah".

Question time can be useful though - for example yesterday when Fiona Nash was forced to acknowledge the clear conflict of interest of her chief of staff. All because of a question asked by Penny Wong.

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Reply #21 - Feb 13^th, 2014 at 3:26pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 3:03pm:

I always found the Dorothy Dixer questions completely demeaning to the backbencher made to ask it. Can you imagine someone like Kevin Rudd standing up and asking one while he was on the backbench? And then there's the condescending way they minister answers it - "I thank the member for x for their question, and I know what an important issue this is for the honourable member... blah blah blah".

Question time can be useful though - for example yesterday when Fiona Nash was forced to acknowledge the clear conflict of interest of her chief of staff. All because of a question asked by Penny Wong.

I'm sure question time is useful, when used properly ... dorothy dixers are not useful , they are a waste of everyones time

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Reply #22 - Feb 13^th, 2014 at 3:31pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 3:03pm:

I always found the Dorothy Dixer questions completely demeaning to the backbencher made to ask it. Can you imagine someone like Kevin Rudd standing up and asking one while he was on the backbench? And then there's the condescending way they minister answers it - "I thank the member for x for their question, and I know what an important issue this is for the honourable member... blah blah blah".

Question time can be useful though - for example yesterday when Fiona Nash was forced to acknowledge the clear conflict of interest of her chief of staff. All because of a question asked by Penny Wong.

Speaking of which, has she resigned yet?

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Reply #24 - Feb 13^th, 2014 at 3:36pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 3:31pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 3:03pm:

I always found the Dorothy Dixer questions completely demeaning to the backbencher made to ask it. Can you imagine someone like Kevin Rudd standing up and asking one while he was on the backbench? And then there's the condescending way they minister answers it - "I thank the member for x for their question, and I know what an important issue this is for the honourable member... blah blah blah".

Question time can be useful though - for example yesterday when Fiona Nash was forced to acknowledge the clear conflict of interest of her chief of staff. All because of a question asked by Penny Wong.

Speaking of which, has she resigned yet?

LOL
They stopped resigning even before Howard stopped demoting

Resign, a liberal MP ROFPMSL Grin

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Reply #25 - Feb 13^th, 2014 at 3:39pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 3:03pm:

I always found the Dorothy Dixer questions completely demeaning to the backbencher made to ask it. Can you imagine someone like Kevin Rudd standing up and asking one while he was on the backbench? And then there's the condescending way they minister answers it - "I thank the member for x for their question, and I know what an important issue this is for the honourable member... blah blah blah".

Question time can be useful though - for example yesterday when Fiona Nash was forced to acknowledge the clear conflict of interest of her chief of staff. All because of a question asked by Penny Wong.

Question Time is a complete farce. THIS IS WHAT THE PROCEDURE IS.

The Minister's Staff calls the Departmental Ministerial Liaison Officer/s at almost daybreak when Parliament is Sitting and requests a "reply to "blah blah" in the news this morning" or whatever the MSM has "leaked". The Ministerial LO creates a Potential Parliamentary Question (ppq) and a reply (stating FACTS), signed off by the Departmental Head, and sends it off to the Minister's Office. In my day it was via fax. No idea what they do now.

There is a time limit as Question Time begins at 2pm. If I recall it was midday. Often people (at both ends) running around like headless chooks. Long hours, lots of hassles and boring in the extreme. Been there, done that. One side of The House asks the Question, the other side Answers. Basic stuff.

Not all PPQs get breath in QT, but many do.

Ministers would be absolutely lost without their Ministerial staff and those of their Department responsibilities. Do you really think these blokes have all this information in their head? Roll Eyes

Question Time is purely a "stage" for Ministers to "perform" in front of the TV audience. It is NOT the Ministers debating anything .... that comes after the ABC stops televising Question Time ... if you really want to see what Parliament is all about, watch it for the entire day (you can do this via your computer, amazingly enough) ... or listen to it on the radio. Ditto when the Senate is sitting. It isn't much less of a bun-fight, but they do "debate" in the HOR, if you are at all interested. Not just the snippets on ABC News. That's what we voted them to do, isn't it? To Govern and get both sides of the story .... Not to just ask Dorothy Dixers.

All Question Time does is cause the Public to take sides ... IF they can be bothered listening to Pollies carrying on like primary school kids. It does NOT solve a thing. It is for your (and the Hon Members) amusement.

You are welcome to my information. Wink

If anyone here should have more current information, go ahead, but what I have said was Parliamentary procedure back when I was a Ministerial Liaison Officer.

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Re: question times is a joke
Reply #26 - Feb 13^th, 2014 at 3:58pm

matty wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 2:55pm:

While I agree with you, John, it puzzles me why you never asked this question when Labor was in power, considering that you joined as long ago as 2012.

In my personal opinion, DDs are pathetic and a waste of time. Instead of the 10-10 rule (questions asked by the Opposition and Government respectively) it should be something like 15-5.

As for Bishop, yes unfortunately like most all Speakers with the exception of Slipper, she is biased. She is about on a par with Jenkins, though both are (were in Jenkins' case) far better than Burke was.

Unlike Jenkins, Bishop is a fool.

And is never reluctant to prove it.

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Fit of Absent Mindeness Gold Member Offline We need more fits of absent mindedness Posts: 1622 Brisbane Gender:	Re: question times is a joke Reply #27 - Feb 13^th, 2014 at 4:04pm The speaker should be a non-party member employed and should have certain rules they must abide by.
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Reply #28 - Feb 13^th, 2014 at 4:09pm

Fit of Absent Mindeness wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 4:04pm:

The speaker should be a non-party member employed and should have certain rules they must abide by.

Yeas.....there has to be a better model than what we have. Big Jobs is a nutter who should have been pensioned off years ago.

Ya know, what is telling is this ~ no-one was crying too much about Jenkins, and no-one was crying at all about Slipper, but clearly Big Jobs is just what Abbott wants, and there is wide-spread scoffing at the depths to which she has plunged to make Tone happy.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74328 Gender:	Re: question times is a joke Reply #29 - Feb 13^th, 2014 at 4:14pm Fit of Absent Mindeness wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 4:04pm: The speaker should be a non-party member employed and should have certain rules they must abide by. i agree
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