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Reply #15 - Feb 14^th, 2014 at 7:35pm

Cliff48 wrote on Feb 14^th, 2014 at 7:21pm:

cods wrote on Feb 14^th, 2014 at 9:51am:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 14^th, 2014 at 7:51am:

cods wrote on Feb 14^th, 2014 at 7:35am:

whatever happened to patience?????.. what does it matter?..

we are now at the mercy of some unknown force..a page doesnt turn when we require it and it send us mad....at this rate terrorism will soon be a thing of the past...

I bet it drives these people mad sitting at a red light giving way to nothing....LOL..what about the baby waking up just as your fav TV show starts...

honestly if page flipping is the only drama you have to whinge about... think yourselves lucky thats all I can say..

a man beat his son to death with a cricket bat..thats what I call tragic. Cry

STILL HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO READ THAT STORY BECAUSE T H A T I S T R A G I C
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yes thats right wouldnt expect anyone from the left to be touched by that story....just page turning hysteria.. Roll Eyes

Cods, you did well until you couldn't help yourself and had to include a lefty smear.

What the hell is the big deal if a post doesn't appear immediately? If its a popular thread, there will soon be more posts 'bumping' it. If its not, it probably doesnt matter much anyway.

There is nothing more annoying than having to wade thru the many 'bumps' of Herbert and Aussie to get to the next REAL post.

Okay. We were asked to do that by freediver, but seeing as how it inconveniences you (Heaven forbid,) I'll not bother anymore, and in doing so, the problem will be ignored and left unattended, unresolved.

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Cliff48 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics /> Posts: 2109 Canberra Gender:	Re: The endemic Forum problem. Reply #16 - Feb 14^th, 2014 at 7:42pm Poll added
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38572 Gender:	Re: The endemic Forum problem. Reply #17 - Feb 14^th, 2014 at 7:45pm Cliff48 wrote on Feb 14^th, 2014 at 7:42pm: Poll added Dunno why. I've just told you I will desist doing what fd suggested be done.......and the problem will go unabated.
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Reply #18 - Feb 14^th, 2014 at 7:45pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 14^th, 2014 at 7:35pm:

Cliff48 wrote on Feb 14^th, 2014 at 7:21pm:

cods wrote on Feb 14^th, 2014 at 9:51am:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 14^th, 2014 at 7:51am:

cods wrote on Feb 14^th, 2014 at 7:35am:

whatever happened to patience?????.. what does it matter?..

we are now at the mercy of some unknown force..a page doesnt turn when we require it and it send us mad....at this rate terrorism will soon be a thing of the past...

I bet it drives these people mad sitting at a red light giving way to nothing....LOL..what about the baby waking up just as your fav TV show starts...

honestly if page flipping is the only drama you have to whinge about... think yourselves lucky thats all I can say..

a man beat his son to death with a cricket bat..thats what I call tragic. Cry

STILL HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO READ THAT STORY BECAUSE T H A T I S T R A G I C
Cry

yes thats right wouldnt expect anyone from the left to be touched by that story....just page turning hysteria.. Roll Eyes

Cods, you did well until you couldn't help yourself and had to include a lefty smear.

What the hell is the big deal if a post doesn't appear immediately? If its a popular thread, there will soon be more posts 'bumping' it. If its not, it probably doesnt matter much anyway.

There is nothing more annoying than having to wade thru the many 'bumps' of Herbert and Aussie to get to the next REAL post.

Okay. We were asked to do that by freediver, but seeing as how it inconveniences you (Heaven forbid,) I'll not bother anymore, and in doing so, the problem will be ignored and left unattended, unresolved.

Thank you Aussie, much appreciated. But to be fair, i only expressed my opinion .... lets see how the poll goes.

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Re: The endemic Forum problem.
Reply #19 - Feb 14^th, 2014 at 7:51pm

Cliff48 wrote on Feb 14^th, 2014 at 7:45pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 14^th, 2014 at 7:35pm:

Cliff48 wrote on Feb 14^th, 2014 at 7:21pm:

cods wrote on Feb 14^th, 2014 at 9:51am:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 14^th, 2014 at 7:51am:

cods wrote on Feb 14^th, 2014 at 7:35am:

whatever happened to patience?????.. what does it matter?..

we are now at the mercy of some unknown force..a page doesnt turn when we require it and it send us mad....at this rate terrorism will soon be a thing of the past...

I bet it drives these people mad sitting at a red light giving way to nothing....LOL..what about the baby waking up just as your fav TV show starts...

honestly if page flipping is the only drama you have to whinge about... think yourselves lucky thats all I can say..

a man beat his son to death with a cricket bat..thats what I call tragic. Cry

STILL HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO READ THAT STORY BECAUSE T H A T I S T R A G I C
Cry

yes thats right wouldnt expect anyone from the left to be touched by that story....just page turning hysteria.. Roll Eyes

Cods, you did well until you couldn't help yourself and had to include a lefty smear.

What the hell is the big deal if a post doesn't appear immediately? If its a popular thread, there will soon be more posts 'bumping' it. If its not, it probably doesnt matter much anyway.

There is nothing more annoying than having to wade thru the many 'bumps' of Herbert and Aussie to get to the next REAL post.

Okay. We were asked to do that by freediver, but seeing as how it inconveniences you (Heaven forbid,) I'll not bother anymore, and in doing so, the problem will be ignored and left unattended, unresolved.

Thank you Aussie, much appreciated. But to be fair, i only expressed my opinion .... lets see how the poll goes.

No worries.....I'll go and vote 'No" to support your cause and you can have the job of taking it up with freediver, because his position always is that if you do not bring a problem to him with proof of more than anecdotal kind...he can't do much to fix it with the people who own the server he uses.

So, Dude, over to you. You now have the baton.

Good luck.

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Cliff48 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics /> Posts: 2109 Canberra Gender:	Re: The endemic Forum problem. Reply #20 - Feb 14^th, 2014 at 7:58pm Aussie wrote on Feb 14^th, 2014 at 7:45pm: Cliff48 wrote on Feb 14^th, 2014 at 7:42pm: Poll added Dunno why. I've just told you I will desist doing what fd suggested be done.......and the problem will go unabated. Glad you understand now. (and i posted the poll before i saw your response)
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Reply #21 - Feb 14^th, 2014 at 8:05pm

Cliff48 wrote on Feb 14^th, 2014 at 7:58pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 14^th, 2014 at 7:45pm:

Cliff48 wrote on Feb 14^th, 2014 at 7:42pm:

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Dunno why. I've just told you I will desist doing what fd suggested be done.......and the problem will go unabated.

Glad you understand now. (and i posted the poll before i saw your response)

I doubt you yet have understood that we were doing exactly what the owner of this site wanted us to do. But......your problem now.

Good luck. Hope you get it fixed.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48864 At my desk.	Re: The endemic Forum problem. Reply #22 - Feb 14^th, 2014 at 8:10pm Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 14^th, 2014 at 5:47am: What you need is a german server (not servage they are ripoffs) SOB Thanks for the suggestion spot. I'm surprised Aussie didn't think of the German solution.
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38572 Gender:	Re: The endemic Forum problem. Reply #23 - Feb 14^th, 2014 at 8:31pm I have a modest and humbly made request for all Members. If ever a page does not flip, would you mind sending a link of that Thread to Cliff48 so he can deal with it. I wash my hands of the matter. Cheers!
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Reply #24 - Feb 14^th, 2014 at 9:07pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 14^th, 2014 at 8:31pm:

I have a modest and humbly made request for all Members. If ever a page does not flip, would you mind sending a link of that Thread to Cliff48 so he can deal with it.

I wash my hands of the matter.

Cheers!

Please do:)

And I will ignore it. as bumping just fills the chat page and achieves nothing. If any of you had knowledge of database (which is where the forum content is held), bumping achieves nothing. It is to do with buffering on the server side, and its the server that is the problem.

I have watched as a post i made was posted immediately, and on other occasions, within a few minutes, and sometimes an hour or 2 later. Wow, have I ever said anything that HAD TO BE POSTED INSTANTLY????? Aussie thinks his posts are so important that the slightest delay is totally unacceptable.

Please Aussie, show me a single post that was a life changing statement that everyone needed to know IMMEDIATELY!!!!!!

When I return tomorrow and see pages filled with "bump", "#",................ crap, it just reminds me I am dealing with children who need instant gratification from seeing their own words in print .... and a page of bump and grind to make it instant.

Aussie, have a great day ... try not to let little annoyances get you down.

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Reply #25 - Feb 14^th, 2014 at 9:56pm

Contrary to what cliff posted, bumping does work, for this particular problem. Another key symptom is that after you make a post, you get automatically redirected to a post above yours. Your post number does not match the number on the end of the URL. This happens after every post, not just the ones that span a page.

This forum does not use a database. It is flat file based.

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People who can't distinguish between etymology and entomology bug me in ways I cannot put into words.

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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: The endemic Forum problem. Reply #26 - Feb 15^th, 2014 at 1:44am Datalife wrote on Feb 14^th, 2014 at 7:32pm: I would say a bigger endemic forum problem is the absolutely terrible and limited search function. Use google.. the lack of consistent justice is the problem: anarchy rules!
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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26506 Australia	Re: The endemic Forum problem. Reply #27 - Feb 15^th, 2014 at 4:45am flip SOB
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Reply #28 - Feb 15^th, 2014 at 7:09am

freediver wrote on Feb 14^th, 2014 at 9:56pm:

Contrary to what cliff posted, bumping does work, for this particular problem. Another key symptom is that after you make a post, you get automatically redirected to a post above yours. Your post number does not match the number on the end of the URL. This happens after every post, not just the ones that span a page.

FD, I refer you to http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1391633272/435

where Herbert made 7 'bump' posts over 1 or 2 minutes for no result, but a post by someone else just 7 minutes later resolved the problem.

Similarly, http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1391633272/450
where Aussie made 7 'bump posts over 2 minutes for no result and the problem was resolved by a post just 12 minutes later.

I'm not suggesting that 'bumping' doesn't work, but its apparent that rapid-fire bumps aren't a solution either. All they achieve is filling a page with non-posts.

I have noticed in the past that often the problem will clear itself after a small amount of time.

I would suggest that if bumping is to be encouraged it should be restricted to, say, 1 bump every 10=15 minutes or so.

For some reason Aussie appears to have taken my comments on this situation as a personal attack. No attack was intended, I was simply stating my 2 penny's worth.

If you are happy to have the forum littered with countless bumps and grinds - its your choice and I am sorry I even mentioned it.

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This forum does not use a database. It is flat file based.

I disagree. YABB's own documentation states that it uses a FLAT FILE DATABASE,

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Reply #29 - Feb 15^th, 2014 at 7:29am

I don't know why people are so impatient. Eventually someone will post in the thread and the page will turn over.

There's nothing more irritating than seeing empty spaces throughout the threads.

Maybe the problem requires a more expensive server and if that's the case - maybe Ozpolitic should charge a $5 joining fee. That way FD could get the best that money can buy. There's a huge volume of traffic passing through and that doesn't come for free.

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Question: Should members 'bump' responses that dont post immediately?
Yes 6 (33.3%) No 7 (38.9%) Don't care 4 (22.2%) Don't understand the question 1 (5.6%) Total votes: 18 « Created by: Cliff48 on: Feb 14^th, 2014 at 7:42pm »