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Feb 14th, 2014 at 5:58am
 
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The way our politics is becoming increasingly focussed on individual gain gives Raffaele Piccolo grave misgivings about where we're headed as a nation.

I AM SITTING ON an early evening train heading out from Adelaide to the northern suburbs.

There is a ticket inspector a few rows up front from me; he is accompanied by a security guard. They walk past me and continue into the next carriage.

The group of boys a few rows back stick their feet up on the chairs. A pair of girls just opposite me does the same, placing their feet on the chairs.

The ticket inspector and the security guard re-enter the carriage on which I am travelling and begin to walk to my end of the carriage. The group of boys and pair of girls see them approaching and quickly remove their feet from the chairs and place them on the floor.
As soon as the ticket inspector and security guard have passed, they place their feet back on the chairs. They continue to remove their feet from the chairs and then place them back on the chairs as the ticket inspector and security guard move about the carriage.
This is not an uncommon sight on public transport services in Adelaide.

In fact, when I have ventured interstate I've seen similar behaviour on public transport services. Nor is it a behaviour that is confined to young people. No matter the age of the commuter, feet are often placed upon chairs and quickly removed as ticket inspectors approach.

Neither is this behaviour confined to public transport services.
Rubbish does not simply fall from the sky — it accumulates in our streets because a bin may not be convenient at the time we need it.

I recall once being at a train station and on seeing that a fellow commuter had dropped their ticket on the ground, brought it to their attention. Without any sense of embarrassment they informed me that the ticket they had dropped on the ground had expired.

I was shocked, not only by the fact that they had not battered an eyelid upon being caught littering, but also the frankness with which they communicated their explanation to me. As if littering was acceptable. I informed them that there was a bin nearby. However I only received a blank stare in response.

An awkward few moments followed and that was that.

Now these are just a few personal anecdotes, and by means did not involve any thorough research. But it is something that I witness on a daily basis as I make my travels into and about the city.

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Joe Hockey, the then Shadow Treasurer famously gave a speech in 2012 entitled: ‘The End of the Age of Entitlement'.

I do not intend to enter into this debate; however I do note that my anecdotes may similarly support such a conclusion.

Instead I wish to focus on another debate by asking the following question: Are we a selfish society?

Based on my limited anecdotal evidence the answer is yes.

Unfortunately, I do not imagine that the group of boys and pair of girls on the train ever considered the effect their actions might have on the comfort of others. Likewise, I do not think those who let rubbish fall to the ground, rather than search for a bin, ever consider the affect that their actions will have on others around them. I acknowledge that there may be other reasons besides selfishness, but bear with me for a moment.

The extent to which we might be a selfish society can also be seen in our most recent Federal election.

For example, in an article published on news.com.au, a summary of the policies of the major parties was each preceded with the introduction: ‘if you are…’; ‘if you’re…’.

The article sought to provide the reader with information about how different policies would affect ‘you’ if ‘you’ had children, or if ‘you’ were an apprentice or small business owner. The whole article, like our policy debate, was focussed upon the individual and how they would be affected. Not about society at large.

But it was not just the reporting of the election that sought to focus upon the individual, it was also policy as announced by the respective parties:

‘Labor has run up record debt that you will have to repay - a debt that will surge past $300 billion by Christmas’

‘If you choose the Coalition, you'll get a new government that will…scrap the carbon tax so that next year alone your family will be $550 a year better off’.

‘Labor’s better on education. If you’re the parent of a child going to school today, getting your children ready for school, feeding them, working out all the dramas which you have before you send your kids to school every morning…’

The question is: who do you trust to fund the education needs of your children? Who do you trust not to make savage cuts to the education budget for your children?’

But it is not all doom and gloom.

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The lead up to the Federal Election saw the adoption of the National Disability Insurance Scheme (NDIS). The NDIS was spruiked about as being less focussed on ‘you’ as it was ‘us’. Similarly the levy adopted in the wake of the Queensland floods a couple of years ago now was something that was not discussed of in terms of ‘you’ but rather the benefit it would have for others.

No doubt there are more examples that could readily be identified.

Whether political parties and media are reporting and releasing policy so as to ensure we know how it affects us on an individual level, rather than a community, societal or national level in response to our demands is not something that need be decided here. The fact remains, that is how policy is being discussed.

For some, this may not be an issue. Indeed my early comments may simply be misinterpreted incidents of something else.

Whilst these anecdotes may not totally be explained as incidents of selfishness, it does not detract from the possibility that they may partly be explained by selfish motivations.
Whilst, as noted, it is not all doom and gloom, we should be aware that our community and our nation is changing. That great Australian narrative whereby we look out for each other is being slowly worn away. We have become focussed on ‘me’, ‘myself’ and ‘I’, rather than ‘us’, ‘we’ and ‘them’.

The actions required to reverse this development towards the selfish society can be overcome.

It does not require millions of dollars. It simply requires us to consider the affect that policies, actions and results will have on those around us — on those a little less well placed than ourselves; a consciousness about more than just ‘me’.
For at the end of the day, we live in an interdependent world in which we need each other.



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Reply #2 - Feb 14th, 2014 at 7:05am
 
But it was not just the reporting of the election that sought to focus upon the individual, it was also policy as announced by the respective parties:

‘Labor has run up record debt that you will have to repay - a debt that will surge past $300 billion by Christmas’

‘If you choose the Coalition, you'll get a new government that will…scrap the carbon tax so that next year alone your family will be $550 a year better off’.

‘Labor’s better on education. If you’re the parent of a child going to school today, getting your children ready for school, feeding them, working out all the dramas which you have before you send your kids to school every morning…’

The question is: who do you trust to fund the education needs of your children? Who do you trust not to make savage cuts to the education budget for your children?’

But it is not all doom and gloom.




THE TITLE SHOULD READ.... 'WE ARE A SELFISH SOCIETY"

its been happening for years not just over the last 6 months...OR DID THE FEET ON THE SEAT ONLY HAPPEN SINCE THE 7TH??


as for the C&P above... its funny how the left never mention how the carbon tax we would never ever have.. has affected our mining  exports??>.

its all about sneering at a presumed $550 a year better off WORKING FAMILIES WILL BE>... Grin Grin

its interesting when labor have working families as their best interesting.. alls good.. but not so when its the Libs.. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

never mind.. lets hope China lifts its  game and lifts its imports on our minerals..

that we shouldnt be sending them as they are polluting the world at a far greater rate than we are....

all very confusing...but lets get back to feet on seats...was the gentleman that witness this so aggrieved he was unable to stand up to said children and tell them off or at least make  the inspectors aware of them?????...

as a society we are sitting back more and more and letting someone else fix all that ails us..

most find fault after fault with the police yet I bet they are the first ones they point to to fix everything..


what a shame this citizen didnt see fit to stand up to these children at the time of the offense... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

yes I agree! you sir are getting more selfish.
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Reply #3 - Feb 14th, 2014 at 7:37am
 
Multiculturalism is a selfish society. It's all about divide and concur, and it has worked. Once upon a time Australia was a united country, everyone knew their neighbours, we left our doors unlocked we all looked out for each other. Then came along a group of lefties saying we needed diversity almost as if our culture was not good enough.
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Reply #4 - Feb 14th, 2014 at 7:41am
 
Divide and concur???????


I think the population growing, bad civic planning is why we don’t know each other—and people are turning their homes into one–house gated communities even tho crime is low.

Only time I speak to others in my neighborhood is when they pass my property when I am working in the vege patch in my front yard. If I walk my dog at night—hard to tell which house has people in it—everything is shuttered and curtained so much. This is an unhealthy trend.
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Reply #5 - Feb 14th, 2014 at 7:49am
 
cods wrote on Feb 14th, 2014 at 7:05am:
But it was not just the reporting of the election that sought to focus upon the individual, it was also policy as announced by the respective parties:

‘Labor has run up record debt that you will have to repay - a debt that will surge past $300 billion by Christmas’

‘If you choose the Coalition, you'll get a new government that will…scrap the carbon tax so that next year alone your family will be $550 a year better off’.

‘Labor’s better on education. If you’re the parent of a child going to school today, getting your children ready for school, feeding them, working out all the dramas which you have before you send your kids to school every morning…’

The question is: who do you trust to fund the education needs of your children? Who do you trust not to make savage cuts to the education budget for your children?’

But it is not all doom and gloom.




THE TITLE SHOULD READ.... 'WE ARE A SELFISH SOCIETY"

its been happening for years not just over the last 6 months...OR DID THE FEET ON THE SEAT ONLY HAPPEN SINCE THE 7TH??


as for the C&P above... its funny how the left never mention how the carbon tax we would never ever have.. has affected our mining  exports??>.

its all about sneering at a presumed $550 a year better off WORKING FAMILIES WILL BE>... Grin Grin

its interesting when labor have working families as their best interesting.. alls good.. but not so when its the Libs.. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

never mind.. lets hope China lifts its  game and lifts its imports on our minerals..

that we shouldnt be sending them as they are polluting the world at a far greater rate than we are....

all very confusing...but lets get back to feet on seats...was the gentleman that witness this so aggrieved he was unable to stand up to said children and tell them off or at least make  the inspectors aware of them?????...

as a society we are sitting back more and more and letting someone else fix all that ails us..

most find fault after fault with the police yet I bet they are the first ones they point to to fix everything..


what a shame this citizen didnt see fit to stand up to these children at the time of the offense... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

yes I agree! you sir are getting more selfish.


I already suspect that you are fair dinkum. Let me remind only a few short years back a couple of blokes went to the aid of a young girl who was being attacked and one of them wound up dead. That is because EVERYONE else walked on by... So you think some bloke not standing up to a bunch of kids (as you put it) is somehow indicative of his being selfish and, worse, you suggest the story is demonstrative of the poster being more selfish.

Funny thing, the bloke not getting involved in the feet on seats issue maybe just a realistic appraisal of how the broader selfish sector will fail to have his back.

I think the thread title is wrong as well.

We are not becoming more selfish, we arrived at more selfish somewhere in the 1980s after a long and winding road to get there. Now, as demonstrated by your drivel we have managed to combine being extremely selfish en masse with abject ignorance and irresponsibility.

Good example and role modelling of what we have become, ty so much...
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Reply #6 - Feb 14th, 2014 at 7:50am
 
Are we becoming a selfish society?

No completed that transition decades ago.
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