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Reply #405 - Feb 27^th, 2014 at 10:08am

Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 27^th, 2014 at 1:07am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 27^th, 2014 at 1:00am:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 27^th, 2014 at 12:52am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 27^th, 2014 at 12:37am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 27^th, 2014 at 12:12am:

further proof:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/1340698/Israeli-secur...

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Israeli security issued urgent warning to CIA of large-scale terror attacks

By David Wastell in Washington and Philip Jacobson in Jerusalem

12:01AM BST 16 Sep 2001

ISRAELI intelligence officials say that they warned their counterparts in the United States last month that large-scale terrorist attacks on highly visible targets on the American mainland were imminent.

The Telegraph has learnt that two senior experts with Mossad, the Israeli military intelligence service, were sent to Washington in August to alert the CIA and FBI to the existence of a cell of as many of 200 terrorists said to be preparing a big operation.

"They had no specific information about what was being planned but linked the plot to Osama bin Laden and told the Americans that there were strong grounds for suspecting Iraqi involvement," said a senior Israeli security official.

And all that still doesn't mean the yanks would have believed the Mossad report. Up until 9/11, the Americans thought they were far to strong to be attacked.

From the outside.

At all actually, incidentally, the point Bobby and I are discussing here is the Mossad warning of a terror attack from an outside source.

So your handler told you Mossad did not perceive the looming insider attack?

Nope, again no 'handler'. And doesn't your brain (Alex Jones) tell you that it wasn't an insider attack, or is that too realistic for you to accept?

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Reply #406 - Feb 27^th, 2014 at 10:26am

You and the others have presented no evidence of anything except nutjob theories that defy the laws of physics. Quote Barovonrort.
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You claim to be an engineer but have never heard of the law of conservation of momentum?
When the top section of those towers collapsed colliding with the undamaged structure below, 2 results should have been expected. The collapse either stopped or that (more likely) the rate of collapse slowed, given that the inelastic collision would have absorbed most of the energy. But this did not happen. It continued straight down through the building as though there was no resistance at all.
Speaking as an engineer that is impossible.

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Reply #407 - Feb 27^th, 2014 at 10:42am

Richdude wrote on Feb 27^th, 2014 at 10:26am:

You and the others have presented no evidence of anything except nutjob theories that defy the laws of physics. Quote Barovonrort.
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You claim to be an engineer but have never heard of the law of conservation of momentum?
When the top section of those towers collapsed colliding with the undamaged structure below, 2 results should have been expected. The collapse either stopped or that (more likely) the rate of collapse slowed, given that the inelastic collision would have absorbed most of the energy. But this did not happen. It continued straight down through the building as though there was no resistance at all.
Speaking as an engineer that is impossible.

hear hear rich guy.

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Reply #409 - Feb 27^th, 2014 at 10:44am

Bobby. wrote on Feb 27^th, 2014 at 12:12am:

further proof:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/1340698/Israeli-secur...

Quote:

Israeli security issued urgent warning to CIA of large-scale terror attacks

By David Wastell in Washington and Philip Jacobson in Jerusalem

12:01AM BST 16 Sep 2001

ISRAELI intelligence officials say that they warned their counterparts in the United States last month that large-scale terrorist attacks on highly visible targets on the American mainland were imminent.

The Telegraph has learnt that two senior experts with Mossad, the Israeli military intelligence service, were sent to Washington in August to alert the CIA and FBI to the existence of a cell of as many of 200 terrorists said to be preparing a big operation.

"They had no specific information about what was being planned but linked the plot to Osama bin Laden and told the Americans that there were strong grounds for suspecting Iraqi involvement," said a senior Israeli security official.

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Reply #410 - Feb 27^th, 2014 at 11:53am

Bobby. wrote on Feb 27^th, 2014 at 10:42am:

Richdude wrote on Feb 27^th, 2014 at 10:26am:

You and the others have presented no evidence of anything except nutjob theories that defy the laws of physics. Quote Barovonrort.
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You claim to be an engineer but have never heard of the law of conservation of momentum?
When the top section of those towers collapsed colliding with the undamaged structure below, 2 results should have been expected. The collapse either stopped or that (more likely) the rate of collapse slowed, given that the inelastic collision would have absorbed most of the energy. But this did not happen. It continued straight down through the building as though there was no resistance at all.
Speaking as an engineer that is impossible.

hear hear rich guy.

Yes i know about the conservation of momentum, it is covered in this peer reviewed physics paper i have linked at least half a dozen times in this thread.
I would tell you which page you can find it on yet if you are an engineer you might find the whole paper interesting, the nutjobs cannot comprehend it so they ignore it.
www.911myths.com/WTCREPORT.pdf

The nutjobs ignore reality and favour those who make a good living from promoting conspiracy theories like Alex Jones who even claimed Nasa faked the moon landings and killed thousands of astronauts.

What were you saying Bobby? Grin

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Reply #411 - Feb 27^th, 2014 at 11:57am

Bobby. wrote on Feb 27^th, 2014 at 10:44am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 27^th, 2014 at 12:12am:

further proof:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/1340698/Israeli-secur...

Quote:

Israeli security issued urgent warning to CIA of large-scale terror attacks

By David Wastell in Washington and Philip Jacobson in Jerusalem

12:01AM BST 16 Sep 2001

ISRAELI intelligence officials say that they warned their counterparts in the United States last month that large-scale terrorist attacks on highly visible targets on the American mainland were imminent.

The Telegraph has learnt that two senior experts with Mossad, the Israeli military intelligence service, were sent to Washington in August to alert the CIA and FBI to the existence of a cell of as many of 200 terrorists said to be preparing a big operation.

"They had no specific information about what was being planned but linked the plot to Osama bin Laden and told the Americans that there were strong grounds for suspecting Iraqi involvement," said a senior Israeli security official.

Is your link proof of what i have been saying about the intelligence not being specific?

How can you let it happen if you did not know what they were up to?

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Re: 911 was an inside job by Bush insiders
Reply #412 - Feb 27^th, 2014 at 12:08pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 11:49pm:

The scenario starts with Pappy Bush back in 1989-93 and vice presidency for 8 years before that in Reagan's time when Pappy Bush and Bin Laden were mates. CIA trained, financed and armed the Taliban in Afghanistan. Bandar Bush facilitated the arrangements and supplied additional finance during Pappy Bush's tenure in power.

The Pakistan ISI played a large role in the creation of the Taliban, were the only 2 countries who recognised the Taliban as a legitimate government the Saudis and Pakistanis?

Why do the nutjobs ignore the contribution of the Pakistani ISI in creating the Taliban?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inter-Services_Intelligence#Afghanistan

I was in the USA and even saw full page advertisements asking for donations of minimum $1 to help pay for weapons so the Mujahideen could kick the Soviets out of Afghanistan.

It was a mistake helping the Mujahideen, the soviets would have dragged the Taliban out of the stone age.

In your case we could say no brain = no headaches

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Re: 911 was an inside job by Bush insiders
Reply #413 - Feb 27^th, 2014 at 12:33pm

Baron,
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The nutjobs ignore reality and favour those who make a good living from promoting conspiracy theories like Alex Jones who even claimed Nasa faked the moon landings and killed thousands of astronauts.

What were you saying Bobby? Grin

Baron - strawman fallacies are not acceptable on this forum.

This has nothing to do about Bush knowing before hand that an attack was imminent.

forgiven

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Reply #414 - Feb 27^th, 2014 at 12:38pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 27^th, 2014 at 12:33pm:

Baron,
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The nutjobs ignore reality and favour those who make a good living from promoting conspiracy theories like Alex Jones who even claimed Nasa faked the moon landings and killed thousands of astronauts.

What were you saying Bobby? Grin

Baron - strawman fallacies are not acceptable on this forum.

This has nothing to do about Bush knowing before hand that an attack was imminent.

forgiven

namaste

Alex Jones makes a good living from selling conspiracy theories to the gullible.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Jones

Alex Jones and Infowars are not a credible source.

Why have all the mainstream respectable media rejected the nutjob theories on 9/11?

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Re: 911 was an inside job by Bush insiders
Reply #415 - Feb 27^th, 2014 at 12:43pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 27^th, 2014 at 12:38pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 27^th, 2014 at 12:33pm:

Baron,
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The nutjobs ignore reality and favour those who make a good living from promoting conspiracy theories like Alex Jones who even claimed Nasa faked the moon landings and killed thousands of astronauts.

What were you saying Bobby? Grin

Baron - strawman fallacies are not acceptable on this forum.

This has nothing to do about Bush knowing before hand that an attack was imminent.

forgiven

namaste

Alex Jones makes a good living from selling conspiracy theories to the gullible.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Jones

Alex Jones and Infowars are not a credible source.

Why have all the mainstream respectable media rejected the nutjob theories on 9/11?

And yet you ignored my quotes from The Guardian, & The Telegraph yesterday.

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Reply #417 - Feb 27^th, 2014 at 1:00pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 27^th, 2014 at 12:08pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 11:49pm:

The scenario starts with Pappy Bush back in 1989-93 and vice presidency for 8 years before that in Reagan's time when Pappy Bush and Bin Laden were mates. CIA trained, financed and armed the Taliban in Afghanistan. Bandar Bush facilitated the arrangements and supplied additional finance during Pappy Bush's tenure in power.

The Pakistan ISI played a large role in the creation of the Taliban, were the only 2 countries who recognised the Taliban as a legitimate government the Saudis and Pakistanis?

Why do the nutjobs ignore the contribution of the Pakistani ISI in creating the Taliban?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inter-Services_Intelligence#Afghanistan

I was in the USA and even saw full page advertisements asking for donations of minimum $1 to help pay for weapons so the Mujahideen could kick the Soviets out of Afghanistan.

It was a mistake helping the Mujahideen, the soviets would have dragged the Taliban out of the stone age.

In your case we could say no brain = no headaches

The Pakistan ISI was a conduit for USA finance and arms for Taliban = Mujahideen.

By the way Baron darling, I am awarding Gizmo 2 virgins for his debating performance:

he gets Baron Von Rort and the Red Baron. Enjoy!

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Re: 911 was an inside job by Bush insiders
Reply #418 - Feb 27^th, 2014 at 2:16pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 27^th, 2014 at 12:46pm:

I'm still trying to work out how a jet airliner could enter a solid steel building and its nose came out the other side still intact. I must be one of those nutjobs too for not believing that Cheesy

Well that might have something to do with it NOT being a 'solid steel building' Cheesy

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Reply #419 - Feb 27^th, 2014 at 3:03pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 27^th, 2014 at 2:16pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 27^th, 2014 at 12:46pm:

I'm still trying to work out how a jet airliner could enter a solid steel building and its nose came out the other side still intact. I must be one of those nutjobs too for not believing that Cheesy

Well that might have something to do with it NOT being a 'solid steel building' Cheesy

Didn't it poke its nose back in after it poked out in one of the videos?

How about those 2 virgins I awarded you. Did you enjoy?

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