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brumbie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 994 Gender:	Re: 911 was an inside job by Bush insiders Reply #915 - Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 8:59pm ColdFact wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 8:55pm: the mickey taken out of you. Ah!..the old "Mickey taken out of you" routine.
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Re: 911 was an inside job by Bush insiders
Reply #916 - Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 9:11pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 10:33am:

did you see the gash on one side of the building that was 15 stories high? and it wasn't just any fire. It was a fire that was not being attended to for rather obvious reasons. But the real failure in your logic is to assume WTC7 was a conspiracy just because you don't know why it collapsed. Lack of knowledge and lack of explanation does not impute a conspiracy - at least not in sane people.

We can assume from footage of both plane crashes that the holes were caused by the impact of the planes. Nothing new to see here. As for WTC7, the explanation that I got was that the buildings were connected somehow and the fire spread to that building and weakened the structure there. I just find that unlikely. Plus, I would take issue with the construction design if that's how easy it is to collapse a building indirectly impacted by primary source area of fire.

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Re: 911 was an inside job by Bush insiders
Reply #918 - Jan 4^th, 2015 at 1:02am

UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 9:11pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 10:33am:

did you see the gash on one side of the building that was 15 stories high? and it wasn't just any fire. It was a fire that was not being attended to for rather obvious reasons. But the real failure in your logic is to assume WTC7 was a conspiracy just because you don't know why it collapsed. Lack of knowledge and lack of explanation does not impute a conspiracy - at least not in sane people.

We can assume from footage of both plane crashes that the holes were caused by the impact of the planes. Nothing new to see here. As for WTC7, the explanation that I got was that the buildings were connected somehow and the fire spread to that building and weakened the structure there. I just find that unlikely. Plus, I would take issue with the construction design if that's how easy it is to collapse a building indirectly impacted by primary source area of fire.

WTC7 had the subway running under it. It had very long steel beams that traversed that area as you cannot stick pylons into the subway. It also contained an emergency control centre and had rather large fuel reserves, these were at the rear. The rear was hit with debris from the towers and damaged, you can see the damage in the photos, the fuel burnt, the long beams lost strength and collapsed. Look at the design, you will see what I'm saying.

Other than that, I'm apparently a limp wristed dupe and a freemason.

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Reply #919 - Jan 4^th, 2015 at 1:58am

Setanta wrote on Jan 4^th, 2015 at 1:02am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 9:11pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 10:33am:

did you see the gash on one side of the building that was 15 stories high? and it wasn't just any fire. It was a fire that was not being attended to for rather obvious reasons. But the real failure in your logic is to assume WTC7 was a conspiracy just because you don't know why it collapsed. Lack of knowledge and lack of explanation does not impute a conspiracy - at least not in sane people.

We can assume from footage of both plane crashes that the holes were caused by the impact of the planes. Nothing new to see here. As for WTC7, the explanation that I got was that the buildings were connected somehow and the fire spread to that building and weakened the structure there. I just find that unlikely. Plus, I would take issue with the construction design if that's how easy it is to collapse a building indirectly impacted by primary source area of fire.

WTC7 had the subway running under it. It had very long steel beams that traversed that area as you cannot stick pylons into the subway. It also contained an emergency control centre and had rather large fuel reserves, these were at the rear. The rear was hit with debris from the towers and damaged, you can see the damage in the photos, the fuel burnt, the long beams lost strength and collapsed. Look at the design, you will see what I'm saying.

Other than that, I'm apparently a limp wristed dupe and a freemason.

Nope just gullible!
Anyone who believes that has no understanding of construction standards or physics.
The NIST report into building 7 blames column 68 for failing which led to a simultaneous, global collapse. Interestingly they would not release the computer modelling which displayed these findings. Nothing more than a cover up to counter the overwhelming evidence that Build 7 was a controlled demolition.

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Reply #920 - Jan 4^th, 2015 at 5:22am

Setanta wrote on Jan 4^th, 2015 at 1:02am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 9:11pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 10:33am:

did you see the gash on one side of the building that was 15 stories high? and it wasn't just any fire. It was a fire that was not being attended to for rather obvious reasons. But the real failure in your logic is to assume WTC7 was a conspiracy just because you don't know why it collapsed. Lack of knowledge and lack of explanation does not impute a conspiracy - at least not in sane people.

We can assume from footage of both plane crashes that the holes were caused by the impact of the planes. Nothing new to see here. As for WTC7, the explanation that I got was that the buildings were connected somehow and the fire spread to that building and weakened the structure there. I just find that unlikely. Plus, I would take issue with the construction design if that's how easy it is to collapse a building indirectly impacted by primary source area of fire.

WTC7 had the subway running under it. It had very long steel beams that traversed that area as you cannot stick pylons into the subway. It also contained an emergency control centre and had rather large fuel reserves, these were at the rear. The rear was hit with debris from the towers and damaged, you can see the damage in the photos, the fuel burnt, the long beams lost strength and collapsed. Look at the design, you will see what I'm saying.

Other than that, I'm apparently a limp wristed dupe and a freemason.

No, you just watched a BBC documentary

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ColdFact Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 359 Gender:	Re: 911 was an inside job by Bush insiders Reply #921 - Jan 4^th, 2015 at 5:30am brumbie wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 8:59pm: ColdFact wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 8:55pm: the mickey taken out of you. Ah!..the old "Mickey taken out of you" routine. "That's the second time I've fallen for it this month!"
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Re: 911 was an inside job by Bush insiders
Reply #922 - Jan 4^th, 2015 at 5:35am

Setanta wrote on Jan 4^th, 2015 at 1:02am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 9:11pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 10:33am:

did you see the gash on one side of the building that was 15 stories high? and it wasn't just any fire. It was a fire that was not being attended to for rather obvious reasons. But the real failure in your logic is to assume WTC7 was a conspiracy just because you don't know why it collapsed. Lack of knowledge and lack of explanation does not impute a conspiracy - at least not in sane people.

We can assume from footage of both plane crashes that the holes were caused by the impact of the planes. Nothing new to see here. As for WTC7, the explanation that I got was that the buildings were connected somehow and the fire spread to that building and weakened the structure there. I just find that unlikely. Plus, I would take issue with the construction design if that's how easy it is to collapse a building indirectly impacted by primary source area of fire.

WTC7 had the subway running under it. It had very long steel beams that traversed that area as you cannot stick pylons into the subway. It also contained an emergency control centre and had rather large fuel reserves, these were at the rear. The rear was hit with debris from the towers and damaged, you can see the damage in the photos, the fuel burnt, the long beams lost strength and collapsed. Look at the design, you will see what I'm saying.

Other than that, I'm apparently a limp wristed dupe and a freemason.

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Reply #923 - Jan 4^th, 2015 at 7:34am

ColdFact wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 8:55pm:

brumbie wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 8:29pm:

ColdFact wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 7:39pm:

I was just jerking your chain.

AH!..the old "I was just jerking your chain" routine?

Let's hope it flushed eh Coldfact?

Oh Hello Bambi,

Back from another of your investigative journalist jaunts.
Taliban invaded Pakistan yet?

The very vulnerable like yourself don't know when you're having the mickey taken out of you. No videos of the attack on the Pentagon have ever been released -- just a few frames. But I get a big kick out of guys like you and Baron Von Whatsisname rushing in and calling people nut jobs and conspiracy theorists when they think that their precious little world of make-believe is the slightest bit threatened.

we are all more than aware of the lack of video. but it is loons like you that draw conclusion from lack of evidence. if you were going to set up an operation like this as an inside job, wouldn't you make sure there was plenty of video evidence?

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Reply #924 - Jan 4^th, 2015 at 9:12am

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 4^th, 2015 at 7:34am:

ColdFact wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 8:55pm:

brumbie wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 8:29pm:

ColdFact wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 7:39pm:

I was just jerking your chain.

AH!..the old "I was just jerking your chain" routine?

Let's hope it flushed eh Coldfact?

Oh Hello Bambi,

Back from another of your investigative journalist jaunts.
Taliban invaded Pakistan yet?

The very vulnerable like yourself don't know when you're having the mickey taken out of you. No videos of the attack on the Pentagon have ever been released -- just a few frames. But I get a big kick out of guys like you and Baron Von Whatsisname rushing in and calling people nut jobs and conspiracy theorists when they think that their precious little world of make-believe is the slightest bit threatened.

we are all more than aware of the lack of video. but it is loons like you that draw conclusion from lack of evidence. if you were going to set up an operation like this as an inside job, wouldn't you make sure there was plenty of video evidence?

Please quote or highlight any conclusions that I have drawn -- and where I have ever used the ridiculous phrase 'inside job' or where I have posted a 'loons' conspiracy theory.

You are delusional. Here take one of these -- and give one to Bambi.

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Reply #925 - Jan 4^th, 2015 at 10:22am

Setanta wrote on Jan 4^th, 2015 at 1:02am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 9:11pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 10:33am:

did you see the gash on one side of the building that was 15 stories high? and it wasn't just any fire. It was a fire that was not being attended to for rather obvious reasons. But the real failure in your logic is to assume WTC7 was a conspiracy just because you don't know why it collapsed. Lack of knowledge and lack of explanation does not impute a conspiracy - at least not in sane people.

We can assume from footage of both plane crashes that the holes were caused by the impact of the planes. Nothing new to see here. As for WTC7, the explanation that I got was that the buildings were connected somehow and the fire spread to that building and weakened the structure there. I just find that unlikely. Plus, I would take issue with the construction design if that's how easy it is to collapse a building indirectly impacted by primary source area of fire.

WTC7 had the subway running under it. It had very long steel beams that traversed that area as you cannot stick pylons into the subway. It also contained an emergency control centre and had rather large fuel reserves, these were at the rear. The rear was hit with debris from the towers and damaged, you can see the damage in the photos, the fuel burnt, the long beams lost strength and collapsed. Look at the design, you will see what I'm saying.

Other than that, I'm apparently a limp wristed dupe and a freemason.

... or worse; a disinformation disseminator of the establishment with a fascination for "damage from the rear".

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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: 911 was an inside job by Bush insiders Reply #926 - Jan 4^th, 2015 at 10:31am My husband & I talk about 9/11 (and other associated conspiracies/mysteries for that matter) quite a lot. Why? It's forever being rehashed on Foxtel's History Channel. Our take on the matter? We wouldn't be surprised if 9/11 was another US False Flag Operation.
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Reply #927 - Jan 4^th, 2015 at 10:47am

Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 4^th, 2015 at 10:31am:

My husband & I talk about 9/11 (and other associated conspiracies/mysteries for that matter) quite a lot. Why? It's forever being rehashed on Foxtel's History Channel.

Our take on the matter? We wouldn't be surprised if 9/11 was another US False Flag Operation.

then you would be an idiot. You need to learn to objectively analyse evidence as well as construct a motive. What possible motive exists in making this an inside job especially when Al Aquaeda admits to it.

and 'false flag' is the terminology of nutters especially when you provide ZERO evidence to support it.

And Lisa, I assume you have doubts about the moon landings as well?

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Reply #928 - Jan 4^th, 2015 at 10:58am

Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 4^th, 2015 at 10:31am:

My husband & I talk about 9/11 (and other associated conspiracies/mysteries for that matter) quite a lot. Why? It's forever being rehashed on Foxtel's History Channel.

Our take on the matter? We wouldn't be surprised if 9/11 was another US False Flag Operation.

many blessings

you would be correct yet you would be the target of various ' b ' grade actors and shills like weekender

attempting in vain to shut the gate yet

the horse has well and truly bolted

and so be it

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Reply #929 - Jan 4^th, 2015 at 10:59am

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 4^th, 2015 at 10:47am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 4^th, 2015 at 10:31am:

My husband & I talk about 9/11 (and other associated conspiracies/mysteries for that matter) quite a lot. Why? It's forever being rehashed on Foxtel's History Channel.

Our take on the matter? We wouldn't be surprised if 9/11 was another US False Flag Operation.

then you would be an idiot. You need to learn to objectively analyse evidence as well as construct a motive. What possible motive exists in making this an inside job especially when Al Aquaeda admits to it.

and 'false flag' is the terminology of nutters especially when you provide ZERO evidence to support it.

And Lisa, I assume you have doubts about the moon landings as well?

Hey, wait a minute, I said that I would not be surprised if 9/11 was a false flag operation. I didn't say it actually was. It's possibe that 9/11 was another Pearl Harbour ie the US knew it was coming and allowed it to. Why? It was the expedient reason required to enter a war with national support (remember Vietnam/no home support yadda yadda yadda? )

In my opinion, it has likely happened and will likely happen again. Nothing definitive here, just making a few observations (as an outsider) based on history.

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