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Reply #1320 - Oct 14th, 2015 at 8:10am
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 14th, 2015 at 7:57am:
mariacostel wrote on Oct 14th, 2015 at 7:49am:
Such small minds.... If Russia had any such evidence it would have released it 14 years ago.

Your insanity is what compels you believe such idiocy.



Maybe Russia wasn't ready for war fourteen years ago dear.



Yeah, coz that makes so much sense. Grin Grin Grin Grin

You believe conspiracy theories because it fits into you low-intelligence, low-accomplishment mindset and seeks to explain your failures in terms of external forces you cannot control.

And still there has been no proof of FEMA camps.  You seem curiously unwilling to do so. Is all the information only available telepathically to those with special hats?
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Re: 911 was an inside job by Bush insiders
Reply #1321 - Oct 14th, 2015 at 8:29am
 
mariacostel wrote on Oct 14th, 2015 at 8:10am:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 14th, 2015 at 7:57am:
mariacostel wrote on Oct 14th, 2015 at 7:49am:
Such small minds.... If Russia had any such evidence it would have released it 14 years ago.

Your insanity is what compels you believe such idiocy.



Maybe Russia wasn't ready for war fourteen years ago dear.



Yeah, coz that makes so much sense. Grin Grin Grin Grin

You believe conspiracy theories because it fits into you low-intelligence, low-accomplishment mindset and seeks to explain your failures in terms of external forces you cannot control.

And still there has been no proof of FEMA camps.  You seem curiously unwilling to do so. Is all the information only available telepathically to those with special hats?



Those that are blind to the truth, will never see it maria. Even when it's revealed.
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Re: 911 was an inside job by Bush insiders
Reply #1322 - Oct 14th, 2015 at 8:33am
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 14th, 2015 at 8:29am:
mariacostel wrote on Oct 14th, 2015 at 8:10am:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 14th, 2015 at 7:57am:
mariacostel wrote on Oct 14th, 2015 at 7:49am:
Such small minds.... If Russia had any such evidence it would have released it 14 years ago.

Your insanity is what compels you believe such idiocy.



Maybe Russia wasn't ready for war fourteen years ago dear.



Yeah, coz that makes so much sense. Grin Grin Grin Grin

You believe conspiracy theories because it fits into you low-intelligence, low-accomplishment mindset and seeks to explain your failures in terms of external forces you cannot control.

And still there has been no proof of FEMA camps.  You seem curiously unwilling to do so. Is all the information only available telepathically to those with special hats?



Those that are blind to the truth, will never see it maria. Even when it's revealed.


So reveal it.  With facts. I am very open-minded. But I do kinda want some degree of proof. I have faith in God. The rest of you have to prove your case.
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Reply #1323 - Oct 14th, 2015 at 9:47am
 

You have read where the locations are longy.

Now it is up to you to prove they are not or cannot easily be turned into FEMA camps.

This time Google Earth will be your friend.

End of discussion with you, thanks.


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Re: 911 was an inside job by Bush insiders
Reply #1324 - Oct 14th, 2015 at 12:37pm
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 14th, 2015 at 9:47am:
You have read where the locations are longy.

Now it is up to you to prove they are not or cannot easily be turned into FEMA camps.

This time Google Earth will be your friend.

End of discussion with you, thanks.





one of those 'FEMA camps' turned out to be in North Korea. Another turned out to be a military base and yet others are empty warehouses. You do know that empty warehouses aren't sinister, right?

SHOW ME THE PICTURES.

Or forever be declared a tin-foil hat wearing nutter.
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Reply #1325 - Oct 14th, 2015 at 1:18pm
 
The cover-up continues and Obama is now complicit because of is inaction and violation of his promise to victim's relatives.

Saudi Arabia is still being protected and provided with immunity by the US Government, the judiciary and the establishment:

http://www.911truth.org/u-s-judge-dismisses-sept-11-victims-case-against-saudi-a...

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Originally published at Reuters by Nate Raymond on 9/29/15

A U.S. judge on Tuesday dismissed claims against Saudi Arabia by families of victims of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, who accused the country of providing material support to al Qaeda. U.S. District Judge George Daniels in Manhattan said Saudi Arabia had sovereign immunity from damage claims by families of the nearly 3,000 people killed in the attacks, and from insurers that covered losses suffered by building owners and businesses.

“The allegations in the complaint alone do not provide this court with a basis to assert jurisdiction over defendants,” Daniels wrote.

The victims had sought to supplement their case with new allegations to avoid that result, including based on testimony they secured from Zacarias Moussaoui, a former al Qaeda operative imprisoned for his role in the attacks.

Daniels said even if he allowed the plaintiffs to assert those new claims, doing so would be “futile, however, because the additional allegations do not strip defendants of sovereign immunity.”

Lawyers for the plaintiffs said they would appeal. Sean Carter, one the lawyers, said he believed the ruling was also the consequence of the U.S. government’s decision to keep classified evidence that could be favorable to their cause.

“Obviously, we respectfully disagree with Judge Daniels’ ruling,” he said

A lawyer for Saudi Arabia declined comment.

The ruling came just over 14 years after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, in which airliners hijacked by al Qaeda militants brought death and destruction upon the United States.

Most of the 19 attackers were Saudi nationals who hijacked planes and flew them into the World Trade Center in New York City, the Pentagon near Washington, D.C., and into a field in Pennsylvania after passengers revolted.

The case against Saudi Arabia has had a complicated history, with trial judges including Daniels twice before ruling that Saudi Arabia was entitled to immunity under the federal Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act.

But in 2013, the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in New York revived the lawsuit, in light of a 2011 decision that allowed similar claims to proceed against Afghanistan.

The case is In re Terrorist Attacks on September 11, 2001, U.S. District Court, Southern District of New York, No. 03-md-01570.

(Reporting by Nate Raymond; Editing by Lisa Shumaker and Leslie Adler)

See related:

Lawsuit Could Reveal Complicity
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Re: 911 was an inside job by Bush insiders
Reply #1326 - Oct 14th, 2015 at 3:18pm
 
Unforgiven wrote on Oct 14th, 2015 at 1:18pm:
The cover-up continues and Obama is now complicit because of is inaction and violation of his promise to victim's relatives.

Saudi Arabia is still being protected and provided with immunity by the US Government, the judiciary and the establishment:

http://www.911truth.org/u-s-judge-dismisses-sept-11-victims-case-against-saudi-a...

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Originally published at Reuters by Nate Raymond on 9/29/15

A U.S. judge on Tuesday dismissed claims against Saudi Arabia by families of victims of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, who accused the country of providing material support to al Qaeda. U.S. District Judge George Daniels in Manhattan said Saudi Arabia had sovereign immunity from damage claims by families of the nearly 3,000 people killed in the attacks, and from insurers that covered losses suffered by building owners and businesses.

“The allegations in the complaint alone do not provide this court with a basis to assert jurisdiction over defendants,” Daniels wrote.

The victims had sought to supplement their case with new allegations to avoid that result, including based on testimony they secured from Zacarias Moussaoui, a former al Qaeda operative imprisoned for his role in the attacks.

Daniels said even if he allowed the plaintiffs to assert those new claims, doing so would be “futile, however, because the additional allegations do not strip defendants of sovereign immunity.”

Lawyers for the plaintiffs said they would appeal. Sean Carter, one the lawyers, said he believed the ruling was also the consequence of the U.S. government’s decision to keep classified evidence that could be favorable to their cause.

“Obviously, we respectfully disagree with Judge Daniels’ ruling,” he said

A lawyer for Saudi Arabia declined comment.

The ruling came just over 14 years after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, in which airliners hijacked by al Qaeda militants brought death and destruction upon the United States.

Most of the 19 attackers were Saudi nationals who hijacked planes and flew them into the World Trade Center in New York City, the Pentagon near Washington, D.C., and into a field in Pennsylvania after passengers revolted.

The case against Saudi Arabia has had a complicated history, with trial judges including Daniels twice before ruling that Saudi Arabia was entitled to immunity under the federal Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act.

But in 2013, the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in New York revived the lawsuit, in light of a 2011 decision that allowed similar claims to proceed against Afghanistan.

The case is In re Terrorist Attacks on September 11, 2001, U.S. District Court, Southern District of New York, No. 03-md-01570.

(Reporting by Nate Raymond; Editing by Lisa Shumaker and Leslie Adler)

See related:

Lawsuit Could Reveal Complicity



You don't know what 'sovereign immunity' is. But you appear to not understand much at all, Unhinged.
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Reply #1327 - Oct 14th, 2015 at 3:58pm
 
mariacostel wrote on Oct 14th, 2015 at 3:18pm:
You don't know what 'sovereign immunity' is. But you appear to not understand much at all, Unhinged.


The meaning of sovereign immunity is implicit in the title of the law. However it is not explicit because a judicial ruling was necessary in this case. Furthermore sovereign immunity has to be invoked by the defendant which it did in this case.

Sovereign immunity is not automatic as exemplified by a New York court ruling against Argentina in  case, probably because Argentina did not invoke sovereign immunity. Furthermore, I understand that the USA can pass laws to revoke sovereign immunity for particular instances of litigation.

The question is, if Saudi Arabia has nothing to hide, why did it need to invoke sovereign immunity?
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Reply #1328 - Oct 17th, 2015 at 9:11pm
 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/donald-trump/11937609/Donald-Trump-sug...

Donald Trump suggests George W. Bush bears some blame for 9/11


Republican presidential frontrunner attacked after claim that George W. Bush is in some way to blame for September 11 attacks on America

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Donald Trump and Twin Towers on 9/11 Photo: AP


Donald Trump has been widely criticised for suggesting that George W. Bush bears some responsibility for the 9/11 terror attacks on America.
The Republican presidential frontrunner, who has made no secret of his disdain for the Bush dynasty, made the controversial claim in an interview on Friday.
"When you talk about George Bush, I mean, say what you want, the World Trade Center came down during his time."

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Reply #1329 - Oct 17th, 2015 at 9:13pm
 
19/11 was done by muslim scum. End of Story.
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There is no evidence of the existence of a muslim,mohammed,or quran until 60 years  after mohammed was supposed to have died. Grin Grin Grin Posting on islam just encourages them and is a waste of time.
 
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Reply #1330 - Oct 17th, 2015 at 11:50pm
 
LifeOrDeath wrote on Oct 17th, 2015 at 9:13pm:
19/11 was done by muslim scum. End of Story.


19/11???

Try again when you sober up.
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Reply #1331 - Oct 21st, 2015 at 5:36am
 
http://www.news.com.au/world/middle-east/bitter-battle-for-truth-about-osama-bin...

Bitter battle for truth about Osama bin Laden’s death rages on




OCTOBER 20, 201510:18PM

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What really happened to the al-Qaeda terrorist behind thousands of deaths?

Emma Reynolds

IT’S the question that won’t go away, the one that’s casting a shadow over the US government and creating a bitter war of words between the world’s top security experts.
How did Osama bin Laden really die?
Senior intelligence agents and researchers who have chronicled the al-Qaeda leader’s demise in bloodcurdling books and movies say the story has been told. But others see holes in the Hollywood-style narrative, and believe America is concealing a less noble reality.
The seed of doubt was sown in May, when investigative journalist Seymour Hersh presented a shocking alternative version of events in the London Review of Books. He had been working on it for the four years since bin Laden was killed at a compound in Abbottabad, north-eastern Pakistan.
Hersh, who is well-known for exposing appalling government cover-ups including the My Lai massacre and prisoner abuse at Abu Ghraib, had an unnamed retired US senior intelligence official as his key source, along with two Special Operations Command consultants.
He was labelled a past-it conspiracy theorist, but this week, the 78-year-old’s allegations resurfaced in a New York Times Magazine cover story, which outlined the evidence supporting his account. It has again drawn furious criticism, but as the tales mount up, so does the uncertainty about what happened on May 1, 2011.

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Reply #1332 - Oct 21st, 2015 at 6:12am
 
who is well-known for exposing appalling government cover-ups including the My Lai massacre and prisoner abuse at Abu Ghraib, had an unnamed retired US senior intelligence official as his key source, along with two Special Operations Command consultants.
He was labelled a past-it conspiracy theorist,



It will be interesting when the truth finally emerges......and it will.

The only come-back America has is to label the whistle-blowers as conspiracy theorists.

That enactment of the raid on Osama's house was bizarre and so amateurish.....oh no! we've lost the satellite....Hilary Clinton, worst actress ever!

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Reply #1333 - Oct 22nd, 2015 at 4:14pm
 
http://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/why-donald-trump-could-be-right-about...

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Why Donald Trump could be right about George W Bush preventing 9/11


OCTOBER 22, 20152:40PM

AT FIRST glance it seemed like just another one of Donald Trump’s crazy statements but it turns out the Republican frontrunner could be right.
Unlike other controversial theories of Trump’s, such as those about President Barack Obama’s birthplace and Mexican immigrants, many are backing the billionaire’s statement that former US president George W Bush failed to keep the country safe during the September 11 terrorist attack.
The presidential hopeful sparked a heated exchange with rival Jeb Bush when he said on Friday that his brother, former US president George W Bush, failed in his responsibility.
“When you talk about George Bush, I mean, say what you want, the World Trade Centre came down during his time,” Mr Trump told Bloomberg TV.
At first Trump’s statement was ridiculed. Fellow presidential hopeful Ben Carson described it as “ridiculous” and former Bush press secretary Ari Fleischer said he sounded like a 9/11 “truther”, those conspiracy theorists who blame the government for the attack. Even the Bloomberg reporter who asked the question said: “Hold on, you can’t blame George Bush for that”.
When pressed on the issue, Mr Trump simply said: “He was president, OK? ... Blame him, or don’t blame him, but he was president. The World Trade Center came down during his reign.”
Jeb Bush hit back on Twitter describing Trump’s comment as “pathetic” and wrote a column for the conservative National Review, saying: “Trump echoes the attacks of Michael Moore and the fringe Left against my brother is yet another example of his dangerous views on national security issues”.
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Reply #1334 - Oct 23rd, 2015 at 6:14am
 
http://www.mediaite.com/online/rubio-trumps-wrong-bush-not-to-blame-for-911-clin...

Rubio: Trump’s Wrong; Bush Not to Blame for 9/11, Clinton Is


by Ken Meyer | 3:09 pm, October 22nd, 2015

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Marco Rubio appeared on Newsmax’s The Hard Line on Tuesday, where he was asked for his thoughts on the Donald Trump/Jeb Bush feud over whether George W. Bush could be blamed for the 9/11 attacks happening under his administration.

When Ed Berlinger asked whether Trump was “reprehensible” to use the tragedy to his political advantage, Rubio responded that Trump is wrong because the blame actually falls on Bill Clinton.

“What [Trump] said is just not true,” Rubio began. “The truth is that George W. Bush inherited all sorts of things from the Clinton administration, including intelligence agencies and others who were…not sharing information across agencies.

Rubio continued to say that Clinton’s administration underestimated the threat of al Qaeda, despite other attacks they coordinated, and that their attack was planned in advance of Bush’s nine months as president.

https://youtu.be/n3v63gcxYc0list=PLanUqPajptu4cWgDUo9uSGEBleMeyCiKw

“It happened under the watch of President Clinton,” Rubio said. “The 9/11 Commission says that. If you look, all of their recommendations, many of them were about reversing mistakes that were made during the Clinton presidency.”

In the end, however, Rubio concluded that as far as Trump is concerned, the frontrunner is using the crisis to garner votes and that he “doesn’t have a fundamental understanding of what caused 9/11.”

You can watch the interview in the video above (the relevant part is at 6:44), via NewsmaxTV.
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