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Reply #1470 - Mar 17th, 2016 at 4:33pm
 
Svengali wrote on Mar 17th, 2016 at 1:17pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 17th, 2016 at 12:50pm:
I have a book by a forensic pathologist detailing his career including his examination ON SITE of the bodies of the Pentagon plane and some in the building.


It's probably a fake like 99.99% of Longweekend58's 'facts'.



you think the complete absence of bodies would not go unnoticed by literally thousands of people?  they even NAMED THE DEAD. where are they if not in the wreckage. and before you state they were killed by the CIA or other such nonsense, wouldnt it be so, so much simpler to just put them on a plane and crash them?

Sometimes you people overthink stuff.  Other time, thinking obviously never occurs at all.
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Reply #1471 - Mar 17th, 2016 at 4:49pm
 
Svengali wrote on Mar 17th, 2016 at 1:17pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 17th, 2016 at 12:50pm:
I have a book by a forensic pathologist detailing his career including his examination ON SITE of the bodies of the Pentagon plane and some in the building.


It's probably a fake like 99.99% of Longweekend58's 'facts'.


They named the hijackers, but some of them are still alive and their names did not appear on passenger manifests.

All USA government actions in respect of 9/11 were swathed in secrecy and were mostly disinformation.
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Reply #1472 - Mar 17th, 2016 at 4:50pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 17th, 2016 at 12:47pm:
Stig wrote on Mar 10th, 2016 at 7:15am:
Richdude wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 2:22pm:
AiA wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 2:49am:
Jennifer wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 12:45am:
AiA wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 12:36am:
Jennifer wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 12:32am:
She made too much sense for you to understand?


No, I understand her well enough to see her philosophy leads only to a life of misery. Many young, intelligent, educated people go through an Ayn Rand phase. I did. The lucky ones grow out of it.

The lucky ones take it on board and use it. It's the socialists that refuse to grow out of their ideological phase.


Take a good look at those who "take it on board and use it." If wanting to be *right* but miserable is your idea of a good life then have at it.


How does a collapsing building turn 27 acres of steel reinforced 4" thick concrete to powder whilst in freefall? Given that the total energy (mgh) is a thousand times less than needed on ground contact- rough guesstimate.


Volume of steel measured in acres, a mention of "reinforced 4 inches thick concrete" and energy measured in whatever a "mgh" is

I'm an engineer and I have no idea what the hell that sentence is supposed to mean



and actual physicist wrote a very detailed paper with actual mathematics that confirmed the free-fall and dust as what you would expect. What some of these idiots dont seem to realise is that 100,000 tonnes of building above the impact area collapsing is going to generate and extremely high force with massive energy. as the good professor explains all in maths that would go right over most heads.


It's a peer reviewed physics paper I linked earlier in this thread, because it contained mathematics the idiots couldn't comprehend it.

When the building started to fall there was no stopping it, there was more than enough energy to turn the concrete into dust.

Every explosive demolition takes the base out first then lets gravity do the rest, I even linked a paper from the world record holders with explosive demolitions who said this had nothing in common with a controlled demolition.

Svengal-Laugh till you cry-Sun Tzu and whatever other closet pom socks he uses is a dopey unemployed bum who should get a job and pay some taxes
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Re: 911 was an inside job by Bush insiders
Reply #1473 - Mar 17th, 2016 at 4:52pm
 
Svengali wrote on Mar 17th, 2016 at 4:49pm:
Svengali wrote on Mar 17th, 2016 at 1:17pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 17th, 2016 at 12:50pm:
I have a book by a forensic pathologist detailing his career including his examination ON SITE of the bodies of the Pentagon plane and some in the building.


It's probably a fake like 99.99% of Longweekend58's 'facts'.


They named the hijackers, but some of them are still alive and their names did not appear on passenger manifests.

All USA government actions in respect of 9/11 were swathed in secrecy and were mostly disinformation.



so where are all the passengers? hiding out with the MH370 mob?
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Reply #1474 - Mar 17th, 2016 at 6:12pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 17th, 2016 at 4:52pm:
so where are all the passengers? hiding out with the MH370 mob?


The purported passengers didn't die. No evidence was ever presented of remains found at any of the sites.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/01/31/airline911/

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By Kevin Barrett, Veterans Today Editor
The truth-seeking community – and the airline industry – are abuzz over Rebekah Roth’s new book Methodical Illusion. It’s poised to break into the top 1,000 worldwide, selling so fast that Amazon may even have tried to stop its rise to bestseller status by falsely claiming “sorry, out of stock.”

We’ve seen this situation before…such as on September 8th, 2013, when the RT documentary 9/11 and Operation Gladio started to go viral and suddenly disappeared from search engines – as emails containing its url began falling into a big black hole in cyberspace.
So what’s all the excitement about? Why would the people whose job is to “disable the purveyors of conspiracy theories” try to limit sales of a potboiler novel by a former stewardess?

...

Roth boldly goes where no stewardess or novelist has gone before, pinning 9/11 squarely on the Israelis and their American assets, and providing a convincing explanation of how the planes were “hijacked,” by whom, where they went, and what happened to the passengers.

Roth’s book has set off a stampede by her former colleagues in the aviation industry, who are rushing to provide details supporting her revelations. They are confirming the installation of FTS (Flight Termination System) equipment on the models “hijacked” on 9/11, which allowed those planes to be taken over remotely and flown from the ground. When FTS takes over a plane, it completely shuts down that plane’s communications with the outside world. That explains why not one of the four pilots on any of the 9/11 planes managed to flip a toggle switch and squawk the hijack code. Had the aircraft been hijacked in a normal manner, the pilots, who are trained to instantly squawk “hijack” in such an emergency, all would have done so.

The failure of any of the 9/11 planes to squawk the “we are hijacked” message is absolute, conclusive proof that the official story of hijackings by Arabs armed with box cutters is false.

According to the author’s hypothesis, the FTS-captured-and-silenced planes landed at a nearby Air Force base with gigantic hangars, which Roth identifies and a colleague who was there confirms happened, less than 20 minutes after takeoff. Once on the ground, selected flight attendants and passengers were guided (or forced) to place cell phone calls, during which they read from scripts prepared by the perpetrators.

This scenario is very similar to one planned by the entire Joint Chiefs of Staff in 1962: the infamous Operation Northwoods. And it is entirely plausible. The main counter-argument – that the FAA tracked the two Boston aircraft from takeoff to crashes – has been disproven, since we now know that the 9/11 perpetrators were inserting false blips onto FAA controllers screens and thereby controlling what they saw.

According to this scenario, the Twin Towers would have been hit by military aircraft and/or missiles, not passenger jets.

Roth’s hypothesis is compelling, for several reasons. First, it explains why the perpetrators would invent such a ridiculously implausible scenario as “hijacked suicide attack planes fly all over the Eastern half of the USA before finally hitting their targets or being taken down by heroic passengers.” They needed this palpably absurd scheme to allow for time to covertly land the planes and stage the dramas via scripted cell phone calls. And the dramas – which would brainwash Americans into hating Israel’s Muslim enemies and killing them by the millions – were (alongside the horrific images broadcast from New York) the key part of the psy-op. Without the “cell phone calls,” nobody would have “known” what happened on those planes.

Were there such a thing as al-Qaeda suicide hijackers, they would take over the plane immediately after takeoff and fly straight for their targets, thereby minimizing the possibility of things going wrong, such as FTS being activated by the good guys or NORAD interceptors showing up in around 10 minutes – the normal procedure every time a plane deviates significantly from course.

But since there have been no successful hijackings in the USA since the 1970s, the whole idea that even one plane would be successfully hijacked on 9/11 is ludicrous. The preposterous claim that four planes with military-trained pilots were commandeered by 130 pound “muscle hijackers” with box cutters and flown with consummate skill and impossible speed by pilots who couldn’t even fly Cessnas is one of history’s most bizarre delusions.

Roth’s hypothesis also explains why so many of the people who received phone calls from the “hijacked passengers” insisted that the calls came from the person’s cell phone, positively identified through caller ID. In 2001, cell phones did not work at altitude. The calls must have been made from the ground.
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Reply #1475 - Mar 17th, 2016 at 6:48pm
 
Svengali wrote on Mar 17th, 2016 at 6:12pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 17th, 2016 at 4:52pm:
so where are all the passengers? hiding out with the MH370 mob?


The purported passengers didn't die. No evidence was ever presented of remains found at any of the sites.


Which is your favorite brand of tin foil? Do you use two layers on your hats?
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Reply #1476 - Mar 17th, 2016 at 7:06pm
 
GordyL wrote on Mar 17th, 2016 at 6:48pm:
Which is your favorite brand of tin foil? Do you use two layers on your hats?


Are you buying or selling?

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Reply #1477 - Mar 18th, 2016 at 7:24am
 
GordyL wrote on Mar 17th, 2016 at 6:48pm:
Svengali wrote on Mar 17th, 2016 at 6:12pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 17th, 2016 at 4:52pm:
so where are all the passengers? hiding out with the MH370 mob?


The purported passengers didn't die. No evidence was ever presented of remains found at any of the sites.


Which is your favorite brand of tin foil? Do you use two layers on your hats?


this conspiracy theory is so funny. no bodies? thats hard enough to sell without the even more ridiculous 'there were no planes'

EVERY exceptional event comes with its own band of tinfil hat deniers.  It gives them something to do on their lifetime trip to mediocrity
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Reply #1478 - Mar 18th, 2016 at 8:05am
 
Everyone knows that Bus and Saudis organised 9-11.
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Reply #1479 - Mar 18th, 2016 at 8:07am
 
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 17th, 2016 at 4:52pm:
Svengali wrote on Mar 17th, 2016 at 4:49pm:
Svengali wrote on Mar 17th, 2016 at 1:17pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 17th, 2016 at 12:50pm:
I have a book by a forensic pathologist detailing his career including his examination ON SITE of the bodies of the Pentagon plane and some in the building.


It's probably a fake like 99.99% of Longweekend58's 'facts'.


They named the hijackers, but some of them are still alive and their names did not appear on passenger manifests.

All USA government actions in respect of 9/11 were swathed in secrecy and were mostly disinformation.



so where are all the passengers? hiding out with the MH370 mob?


probably murdered like many more in Iraq after they helped themselves to the oil loot Sad

do you think they couldn't have diverted that plane and murder all of the occupants and then fly an empty plane into a building via remote control ? Anything was possible under george's watch !
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In August 2021, Newcastle Coroner Karen Dilks recorded that Lisa Shaw had died “due to complications of an AstraZeneca COVID vaccination”.
 
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Reply #1480 - Mar 18th, 2016 at 8:19am
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 17th, 2016 at 4:50pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 17th, 2016 at 12:47pm:
Stig wrote on Mar 10th, 2016 at 7:15am:
Richdude wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 2:22pm:
AiA wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 2:49am:
Jennifer wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 12:45am:
AiA wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 12:36am:
Jennifer wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 12:32am:
She made too much sense for you to understand?


No, I understand her well enough to see her philosophy leads only to a life of misery. Many young, intelligent, educated people go through an Ayn Rand phase. I did. The lucky ones grow out of it.

The lucky ones take it on board and use it. It's the socialists that refuse to grow out of their ideological phase.


Take a good look at those who "take it on board and use it." If wanting to be *right* but miserable is your idea of a good life then have at it.


How does a collapsing building turn 27 acres of steel reinforced 4" thick concrete to powder whilst in freefall? Given that the total energy (mgh) is a thousand times less than needed on ground contact- rough guesstimate.


Volume of steel measured in acres, a mention of "reinforced 4 inches thick concrete" and energy measured in whatever a "mgh" is

I'm an engineer and I have no idea what the hell that sentence is supposed to mean



and actual physicist wrote a very detailed paper with actual mathematics that confirmed the free-fall and dust as what you would expect. What some of these idiots dont seem to realise is that 100,000 tonnes of building above the impact area collapsing is going to generate and extremely high force with massive energy. as the good professor explains all in maths that would go right over most heads.


It's a peer reviewed physics paper I linked earlier in this thread, because it contained mathematics the idiots couldn't comprehend it.

When the building started to fall there was no stopping it, there was more than enough energy to turn the concrete into dust.

Every explosive demolition takes the base out first then lets gravity do the rest, I even linked a paper from the world record holders with explosive demolitions who said this had nothing in common with a controlled demolition.

Svengal-Laugh till you cry-Sun Tzu and whatever other closet pom socks he uses is a dopey unemployed bum who should get a job and pay some taxes


What about the collapse of building 7 that was not hit by any plane ?

Kind of looks like a controlled demolition to me. The landlord said he wanted the building pulled and it was Cheesy LOL Seems the easy way to demolish a concrete structure building is to set it on fire Cheesy LOL








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Reply #1481 - Mar 18th, 2016 at 8:25am
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 17th, 2016 at 4:50pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 17th, 2016 at 12:47pm:
Stig wrote on Mar 10th, 2016 at 7:15am:
Richdude wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 2:22pm:
AiA wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 2:49am:
Jennifer wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 12:45am:
AiA wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 12:36am:
Jennifer wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 12:32am:
She made too much sense for you to understand?


No, I understand her well enough to see her philosophy leads only to a life of misery. Many young, intelligent, educated people go through an Ayn Rand phase. I did. The lucky ones grow out of it.

The lucky ones take it on board and use it. It's the socialists that refuse to grow out of their ideological phase.


Take a good look at those who "take it on board and use it." If wanting to be *right* but miserable is your idea of a good life then have at it.


How does a collapsing building turn 27 acres of steel reinforced 4" thick concrete to powder whilst in freefall? Given that the total energy (mgh) is a thousand times less than needed on ground contact- rough guesstimate.


Volume of steel measured in acres, a mention of "reinforced 4 inches thick concrete" and energy measured in whatever a "mgh" is

I'm an engineer and I have no idea what the hell that sentence is supposed to mean



and actual physicist wrote a very detailed paper with actual mathematics that confirmed the free-fall and dust as what you would expect. What some of these idiots dont seem to realise is that 100,000 tonnes of building above the impact area collapsing is going to generate and extremely high force with massive energy. as the good professor explains all in maths that would go right over most heads.


It's a peer reviewed physics paper I linked earlier in this thread, because it contained mathematics the idiots couldn't comprehend it.

When the building started to fall there was no stopping it, there was more than enough energy to turn the concrete into dust.

Every explosive demolition takes the base out first then lets gravity do the rest, I even linked a paper from the world record holders with explosive demolitions who said this had nothing in common with a controlled demolition.

Svengal-Laugh till you cry-Sun Tzu and whatever other closet pom socks he uses is a dopey unemployed bum who should get a job and pay some taxes


They're lying ................. both towers collapsed in their own footprints .... demolition is the only way to achieve this.

building number 7 which wasn't struck by anything did the same later that afternoon .....

it's owner Larry Silverstein even saying they decided to "PULL" the building ......... a demolition term.

How would that building have been readied to be "pulled" in such a short time?

The two towers were struck in roughly the top quarter of the building and fire broke out on a number of floors above the strike area ....

it's also been proven that the heat generated from the aviation fuel & subsequent fires would not have been hot enough to melt the metal frames of these buildings ....

yet molten metal was seen/filmed pouring out from areas near & away from the crash site

these buildings were built to withstand earthquakes.

You don't think that the US govt & those who really control it aren't capable of running a false flag operation to get the country onside to get involved in a war/ global conflict some where?

Roosevelt knew the Japs were going to bomb Pearl Harbour yet did nothing ..... 2,403 killed 1,178 wounded.

The reluctant US Congress then agreed to enter WW11.


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Reply #1482 - Mar 18th, 2016 at 11:33am
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 18th, 2016 at 8:07am:
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 17th, 2016 at 4:52pm:
Svengali wrote on Mar 17th, 2016 at 4:49pm:
Svengali wrote on Mar 17th, 2016 at 1:17pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 17th, 2016 at 12:50pm:
I have a book by a forensic pathologist detailing his career including his examination ON SITE of the bodies of the Pentagon plane and some in the building.


It's probably a fake like 99.99% of Longweekend58's 'facts'.


They named the hijackers, but some of them are still alive and their names did not appear on passenger manifests.

All USA government actions in respect of 9/11 were swathed in secrecy and were mostly disinformation.



so where are all the passengers? hiding out with the MH370 mob?


probably murdered like many more in Iraq after they helped themselves to the oil loot Sad

do you think they couldn't have diverted that plane and murder all of the occupants and then fly an empty plane into a building via remote control ? Anything was possible under george's watch !


In some of the most tightly controlled airspace in the world with civilian and military radars spread everywhere - without anyone noticing - no.

Not to mention - how do you actually get a remote control system onto a plane in the first place. It's not like James Bond where you walk past a plane and quickly hide a box out of sight in the gear bay.
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Reply #1483 - Mar 19th, 2016 at 8:05am
 
if you think the 911 conspiracy theorists are nuts then take a listen to flat-earthers.... they make Green-Snot and John Smith look like nobel laureates.
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It gets more ridiculous with time. A US court has blamed Iran for 911 despite the fact that the 19 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia, UAE and Egypt and were all Sunni Muslims, not Shia like the majority of Iran's population.

http://rinf.com/alt-news/latest-news/u-s-givernment-blames-911-iran-fines-iran-1...

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On March 14th, Iran announced that it will never pay the $10.5B that a U.S. court demanded it pay for the 9/11 attacks.

The same Bill-Clinton-appointed judge who had ruled, on 29 September 2015, that Saudi Arabia has sovereign immunity for 9/11 and so can’t be sued for it, ruled recently, on March 9th that Iran doesn’t have sovereign immunity and fined Iran $10.5 billion to be paid to 9/11 victims and insurers; but, on March 14, Iran’s Foreign Ministry said Iran won’t pay, because, as the Ministry’s spokesman Hossein Jaberi Ansari put it, “The ruling is ludicrous and absurd to the point that it makes a mockery of the principle of justice while [it] further tarnishes the US judiciary’s reputation.”

The United States is allied with Iran’s enemy Saudi Arabia, the largest purchaser of U.S.-made weapons, and also the top influence in the Gulf Cooperation Council of Arabic oil royal families regarding where they buy their weapons. Those purchases, which are crucial to the stockholders in Lockheed Martin and other U.S. weapons-makers, are determined basically by the Saud family, the owners of Saudi Arabia. The Sauds, as the owners of the leading fundamentalist-Sunni country, including sole ownership of the world’s largest oil company Aramco, also own Islam’s two holiest sites, Mecca and Medina, and are therefore the leaders of Islam worldwide, because all Muslims (not only fundamentalist Sunnis) are required to bow down in prayer five times every day facing Mecca — facing the Saud family and the clergy that authorize continued ownership of Saudi Arabia by the Saud family: the Wahhabist clergy. Back in 1744, the founder of Wahhabism, Muhammad Ibn Wahhab, and the founder of Saudi Arabia, Muhammad Ibn Saud, jointly swore an eternal oath that Saud’s descendants would own the country, and that Wahhab’s clergymen would grant them God’s approval of their ownership and of their right to conquer other lands to expand the faith. (Religions throughout history have mainly been spread by conquest.)

Part of that oath was also that the Sauds would exterminate Shia Muslims, so as to unify Islam worldwide as fundamentalist Sunnis, in order to enable a unified (100% Sunni) faith to take over the entire world. Iran is the center of Shia Islam, and so is especially the target of the Sauds to conquer and ‘convert’ the world to Wahhabism — which is called “Salafism” outside Saudi Arabia, and which is known outside Islam as simply fundamentalist Sunni Islam. Al Qaeda, ISIS, and other global-jihadist groups, all are Salafists; they’re all Sunni fundamentalists. Shia Islam has no real equivalent to this “global Caliphate” idea, the goal of conquering the world to ‘convert’ all lands someday to Islam. Jihadism, in that sense, doesn’t exist, except in the Sunni variant of Islam. Perhaps this is what Mr. Ansari meant by calling that judge’s verdict “ludicrous and absurd.” (However, Shia Islam tends to be more anti-Israeli  than does Sunni Islam; but, again, that’s no sort of global  aspiration; it’s strictly  Middle-Eastern.) (And, of course, historians, and the U.S. government, know these things, even if the U.S. public don’t — especially because it would be inconvenient for the U.S. government if the U.S. public knew what’s actually driving this nation’s foreign policies.)

According to the evidence (or alleged evidence) that the judge in this case, George B. Daniels, cited in his “Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law”  — in this case called “Fiona Havlish v. Usama Bin Laden”:

Iran has been waging virtually an undeclared war against both the United States and Israel for thirty years. …Iran wages this undeclared war through asymetrical, or unconventional strategies and terrorism, often through proxies such as Hizballah, Hamas [which is actually “a Palestinian Sunni-Islamic fundamentalist organization” and as such is devoted to the destruction of Shiite Iran as well as Jewish Israel], Al Qaeda [which is likewise Salafist], and others  [all of which are Salafist]. …
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