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Reply #1635 - Jan 1st, 2018 at 10:20am
 
What can cause metal to melt and run off the side of a building.........???

It's not the jet fuel fires and certainly not the office fires.

What could have caused the beams and columns to melt in this way.....???

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Reply #1636 - Jan 1st, 2018 at 10:21am
 
No plane hit building 7, yet it collapsed out of sympathy for its two bigger sisters.

Exactly like a classical demolition.

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Reply #1637 - Jan 1st, 2018 at 10:41am
 
One last thought to ponder on and I'm done with this thread.

The twin towers were designed to take a hit anywhere on the structure by a 707 flying at 550 mph (885 klm/h) without fear of collapse.

Now the planes that hit the towers were 757's just a bit bigger than a 707.

BTW both buildings fell within 90 minutes.

That is unheard of due to FIRE and weakening of the structure.

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http://www.aviatorjoe.net/go/compare/707-320B/757-200/
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Reply #1638 - Jan 1st, 2018 at 12:08pm
 
Ajax wrote on Jan 1st, 2018 at 10:41am:
One last thought to ponder on and I'm done with this thread.

The twin towers were designed to take a hit anywhere on the structure by a 707 flying at 550 mph (885 klm/h) without fear of collapse.

Now the planes that hit the towers were 757's just a bit bigger than a 707.

BTW both buildings fell within 90 minutes.

That is never heard of due to FIRE and weakening of the structure.

https://preview.ibb.co/jrqHCG/707757.jpg

http://www.aviatorjoe.net/go/compare/707-320B/757-200/



Ever wondered how they 'tested' this plane-proof construction claim?  THEY DIDNT. They did their best to estimate and they got it wrong. it really is that simple.
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Reply #1639 - Jan 1st, 2018 at 12:47pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 1st, 2018 at 12:08pm:
Ajax wrote on Jan 1st, 2018 at 10:41am:
One last thought to ponder on and I'm done with this thread.

The twin towers were designed to take a hit anywhere on the structure by a 707 flying at 550 mph (885 klm/h) without fear of collapse.

Now the planes that hit the towers were 757's just a bit bigger than a 707.

BTW both buildings fell within 90 minutes.

That is never heard of due to FIRE and weakening of the structure.

https://preview.ibb.co/jrqHCG/707757.jpg

http://www.aviatorjoe.net/go/compare/707-320B/757-200/



Ever wondered how they 'tested' this plane-proof construction claim?  THEY DIDNT. They did their best to estimate and they got it wrong. it really is that simple.


Good point Longy....So how did building 7 collapse when no plane hit it and why didn't the 9/11 Commission investigate why a 47 story building collapsed in it's own footprint after the media had already announced it's collapse....How on earth could a news outlet know building 7 would collapse when the only known collapse of a skyscraper in history where the two towers that only collapsed hours earlier....Why won't the Pentagon release any pictures or film of the plane that supposedly hit the Pentagon considering every square inch is under video surveillance....Surely they could clear up any conspiracy if they stopped fuelling the flames by refusing to support their claims with any evidence....A FEMA report that is so flawed it is laughable just adds to the bullshit....If a conspiracy exists it is in the American Government who are refusing to release information that could end the speculation???

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Reply #1640 - Jan 1st, 2018 at 1:16pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 1st, 2018 at 12:08pm:
Ajax wrote on Jan 1st, 2018 at 10:41am:
One last thought to ponder on and I'm done with this thread.

The twin towers were designed to take a hit anywhere on the structure by a 707 flying at 550 mph (885 klm/h) without fear of collapse.

Now the planes that hit the towers were 757's just a bit bigger than a 707.

BTW both buildings fell within 90 minutes.

That is never heard of due to FIRE and weakening of the structure.

https://preview.ibb.co/jrqHCG/707757.jpg

http://www.aviatorjoe.net/go/compare/707-320B/757-200/



Ever wondered how they 'tested' this plane-proof construction claim?  THEY DIDNT. They did their best to estimate and they got it wrong. it really is that simple.


No! Its never simple.

3 buildings collapsed that day primarily from fire - never happened to one before or since.

4 aircraft also disappeared that day, luggage, seats, bodies, wings .... everything, with only one token engine and 2 wheels and one black box.

The 2 towers fell at the speed gravity and yet turned to dust midair. 20 miles of massive steel columns and thousands of tons of concrete should have made a pile of debris 100's of feet high! Thousand of steel filing cabinets gone. Nothing recognizable in the debris, bodies, computers, chairs, tables, PC. Where did all go?

9/11 was a enormous crime that has to investigated and those involved/cover up hung!

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Reply #1641 - Jan 2nd, 2018 at 6:43am
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 1st, 2018 at 12:08pm:
Ajax wrote on Jan 1st, 2018 at 10:41am:
One last thought to ponder on and I'm done with this thread.

The twin towers were designed to take a hit anywhere on the structure by a 707 flying at 550 mph (885 klm/h) without fear of collapse.

Now the planes that hit the towers were 757's just a bit bigger than a 707.

BTW both buildings fell within 90 minutes.

That is never heard of due to FIRE and weakening of the structure.

https://preview.ibb.co/jrqHCG/707757.jpg

http://www.aviatorjoe.net/go/compare/707-320B/757-200/



Ever wondered how they 'tested' this plane-proof construction claim?  THEY DIDNT. They did their best to estimate and they got it wrong. it really is that simple.


The world trade centre was built in the mid 1960’s, finite element analysis (FEA) and 3D computer modelling were of course non-existent back then.

They may have had access to primitive computers but my guess is the twin towers were designed with traditional methods, analysing Stability, Strength, Deflection and serviceability by

1. Structural mechanics, Physics & Math models

and designed to

2.National codes and standards which use many safety factors.

If anything the twin towers would have been “OVER” designed and quite capable of taking a hit from a 707 as they claim it could.

Proof that traditional methods DO WORK
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On 28th July 1945 a B-25 Mitchell bomber crashed into the Empire state building due to poor visibility from fog.

The Empire state building DIDN’T collapse and was repaired.

The planes that crashed into the Twin Towers were 767 not 757's as i quoted above, still they are just a bit larger than 707 and the fact that they weren't flying at 550mph when they hit the towers makes the design force much larger than the actually force.


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Reply #1644 - Jan 2nd, 2018 at 2:33pm
 
Architects and Engineers On 9/11


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Reply #1645 - May 2nd, 2018 at 3:32pm
 


GEORGE W BUSH, The Deepstate Rat No One Expected Just Got Connected to 9 11
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Reply #1646 - May 2nd, 2018 at 11:33pm
 
it_is_the_light wrote on May 2nd, 2018 at 3:32pm:


GEORGE W BUSH, The Deepstate Rat No One Expected Just Got Connected to 9 11



and as always...

more fake news from...

FATTIES FAKE NEWS NETWORK
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Reply #1647 - May 3rd, 2018 at 12:01am
 
Ajax wrote on Jan 1st, 2018 at 10:41am:
One last thought to ponder on and I'm done with this thread.

The twin towers were designed to take a hit anywhere on the structure by a 707 flying at 550 mph (885 klm/h) without fear of collapse.

Now the planes that hit the towers were 757's just a bit bigger than a 707.

BTW both buildings fell within 90 minutes.

That is unheard of due to FIRE and weakening of the structure.

https://preview.ibb.co/jrqHCG/707757.jpg

http://www.aviatorjoe.net/go/compare/707-320B/757-200/



Maybe it isn't about the aircraft but about the fire weakening the structure, as everyone except the conspiraloons have been saying.


And it does happen, when the oportunity to weaken a steel structured building.


http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-43960778?utm_source=bugger&utm_mediu...

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Reply #1648 - May 3rd, 2018 at 12:22am
 
Richdude wrote on Jan 1st, 2018 at 1:16pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 1st, 2018 at 12:08pm:
Ajax wrote on Jan 1st, 2018 at 10:41am:
One last thought to ponder on and I'm done with this thread.

The twin towers were designed to take a hit anywhere on the structure by a 707 flying at 550 mph (885 klm/h) without fear of collapse.

Now the planes that hit the towers were 757's just a bit bigger than a 707.

BTW both buildings fell within 90 minutes.

That is never heard of due to FIRE and weakening of the structure.

https://preview.ibb.co/jrqHCG/707757.jpg

http://www.aviatorjoe.net/go/compare/707-320B/757-200/



Ever wondered how they 'tested' this plane-proof construction claim?  THEY DIDNT. They did their best to estimate and they got it wrong. it really is that simple.


No! Its never simple.

3 buildings collapsed that day primarily from fire - never happened to one before or since.

4 aircraft also disappeared that day, luggage, seats, bodies, wings .... everything, with only one token engine and 2 wheels and one black box.

The 2 towers fell at the speed gravity and yet turned to dust midair. 20 miles of massive steel columns and thousands of tons of concrete should have made a pile of debris 100's of feet high! Thousand of steel filing cabinets gone. Nothing recognizable in the debris, bodies, computers, chairs, tables, PC. Where did all go?

9/11 was a enormous crime that has to investigated and those involved/cover up hung!



Some more interesting facts from 9/11.

- All passengers from the 4 aircraft involved that day paid cash for their tickets - no record of individual passengers - including the alleged hijackers.

- There was no insurance payout to the airlines that lost their aircraft because a serial number from the aircraft wreckage must be presented. None were - except one unidentified turbine, 2 wheels and 2 black boxes which had no serial numbers.

Those planes disappeared! Another first for that day that adds up to a truly bewildering series of coincidences that only someone totally out of touch with reality could believe the official story.

Who was the Director of the FBI at the time? The one whose task was to present the facts to the public!

Robert Mueller ........ hmmmm.
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Reply #1649 - May 3rd, 2018 at 12:27am
 
Richdude wrote on May 3rd, 2018 at 12:22am:
Richdude wrote on Jan 1st, 2018 at 1:16pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 1st, 2018 at 12:08pm:
Ajax wrote on Jan 1st, 2018 at 10:41am:
One last thought to ponder on and I'm done with this thread.

The twin towers were designed to take a hit anywhere on the structure by a 707 flying at 550 mph (885 klm/h) without fear of collapse.

Now the planes that hit the towers were 757's just a bit bigger than a 707.

BTW both buildings fell within 90 minutes.

That is never heard of due to FIRE and weakening of the structure.

https://preview.ibb.co/jrqHCG/707757.jpg

http://www.aviatorjoe.net/go/compare/707-320B/757-200/



Ever wondered how they 'tested' this plane-proof construction claim?  THEY DIDNT. They did their best to estimate and they got it wrong. it really is that simple.


No! Its never simple.

3 buildings collapsed that day primarily from fire - never happened to one before or since.

4 aircraft also disappeared that day, luggage, seats, bodies, wings .... everything, with only one token engine and 2 wheels and one black box.

The 2 towers fell at the speed gravity and yet turned to dust midair. 20 miles of massive steel columns and thousands of tons of concrete should have made a pile of debris 100's of feet high! Thousand of steel filing cabinets gone. Nothing recognizable in the debris, bodies, computers, chairs, tables, PC. Where did all go?

9/11 was a enormous crime that has to investigated and those involved/cover up hung!



Some more interesting facts from 9/11.

- All passengers from the 4 aircraft involved that day paid cash for their tickets - no record of individual passengers - including the alleged hijackers.

- There was no insurance payout to the airlines that lost their aircraft because a serial number from the aircraft wreckage must be presented. None were - except one unidentified turbine, 2 wheels and 2 black boxes which had no serial numbers.

Those planes disappeared! Another first for that day that adds up to a truly bewildering series of coincidences that only someone totally out of touch with reality could believe the official story.

Who was the Director of the FBI at the time? The one whose task was to present the facts to the public!

Robert Mueller ........ hmmmm.
Show links for these "facts".
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