Australian Politics Forum - 911 was an inside job by Bush insiders

Baronvonrort

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 18383
Gender: male

Re: 911 was an inside job by Bush insiders
Reply #315 - Feb 24^th, 2014 at 5:56pm

Gnads wrote on Feb 24^th, 2014 at 5:05pm:

But again it doesn't support the argument put forth by the terrorist plane strike & fire believers

& the step through of events certainly makes the nongs who believe Building 7 was pulled over by cranes & excavators look like the nutters in the whole debate.

It was building 6 that was pulled down by cranes, many other buildings were pulled down as well because damage made them unsafe.

Here is a peer reviewed report on building 7, the nutjobs will ignore it because they filter out anything that does not come from nutjobs.

www.structuremag.org/Archives/2007-11/SF-WTC7-Gilsanz-Nov07.pdf

Can any of the nutjobs who insist thermite was used cite a case where thermite has cut a horizontal line in a vertical column?

The WTC tower physics paper said the kinetic energy from the falling towers was equivalent to how many tons of TNT?

Back to top

Leftists and the Ayatollahs have a lot in common when it comes to criticism of Islam, they don't tolerate it.

IP Logged

Baronvonrort

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 18383
Gender: male

Re: 911 was an inside job by Bush insiders
Reply #316 - Feb 24^th, 2014 at 5:56pm

Gnads wrote on Feb 24^th, 2014 at 5:05pm:

But again it doesn't support the argument put forth by the terrorist plane strike & fire believers

& the step through of events certainly makes the nongs who believe Building 7 was pulled over by cranes & excavators look like the nutters in the whole debate.

It was building 6 that was pulled down by cranes, many other buildings were pulled down as well because damage made them unsafe.

Here is a peer reviewed report on building 7, the nutjobs will ignore it because they filter out anything that does not come from nutjobs.

www.structuremag.org/Archives/2007-11/SF-WTC7-Gilsanz-Nov07.pdf

Can any of the nutjobs who insist thermite was used cite a case where thermite has cut a horizontal line in a vertical column?

The WTC tower physics paper said the kinetic energy from the falling towers was equivalent to how many tons of TNT?

Back to top

Leftists and the Ayatollahs have a lot in common when it comes to criticism of Islam, they don't tolerate it.

IP Logged

Baronvonrort

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 18383
Gender: male

Re: 911 was an inside job by Bush insiders
Reply #317 - Feb 24^th, 2014 at 5:59pm

Sophia wrote on Feb 24^th, 2014 at 10:40am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 24^th, 2014 at 9:18am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 24^th, 2014 at 8:56am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 10:30pm:

Baron,
Quote:

Do you think the Americans want to release details one the security or lack of it in one of their most sensitive buildings after a plane crashed into it?
The plane was travelling at 255 meters per second how much video are you going to get?

Why hide the evidence?
One of those 2 dozen cameras must have something they could show us.

Why do the nutjobs ignore the evidence?

Why do the nutjobs ignore the peer reviewed reports written by Physics professors who say no explosives were needed to bring down the towers, why are the nutjobs insisting these physics professors are wrong?

Look at the fireball from the Pentagon and compare that to the fireballs from the WTC towers, are they the same?

Most of the fireball at the Pentagon happened outside the building,missiles are designed to penetrate then explode inside the building, there was no Tomahawk missile used at the Pentagon as the nutjobs claim.

Look at all the plane debris at the Pentagon, the nutjobs insist this was planted despite having nobody witness the planting of plane debris.

Click on images and explain how the plane debris ended up at the Pentagon.
https://www.google.com.au/#q=911+pentagon+plane+debris

The nutjobs have reached a conclusion and discard any evidence that contradicts the nutjob theory.

Still waiting Bobby

Any other nutjobs want to explain how the plane debris ended up at the Pentagon?
Does Newton's 3rd law explain (physics which the nutjobs ignore) why there is plane debris on the grass after hitting lightpoles?

Just for you Mr. Baronvonrort.....
Before you view all these accounts and questions....keep in mind, where were all the plane seats, the personal effects that belong to the passengers and suitcases etc?

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/flight77.htm

....and a shorter video of about 6 minutes that explains the debris that is made to look similar in markings of a plane.

The only evidence that video provides is how stupid the nutjobs are.

Can anyone explain how the plane debris ended up at the Pentagon,why did nobody come forward and say it was planted?

Back to top

Leftists and the Ayatollahs have a lot in common when it comes to criticism of Islam, they don't tolerate it.

IP Logged

Laugh till you cry

Gold Member

Offline

Posts: 16619
In your happy place
Gender: male

Re: 911 was an inside job by Bush insiders
Reply #318 - Feb 24^th, 2014 at 6:12pm

Gnads wrote on Feb 24^th, 2014 at 5:05pm:

The Dr Judy Wood videos certainly puts a new consideration into the events.

But again it doesn't support the argument put forth by the terrorist plane strike & fire believers

& the step through of events certainly makes the nongs who believe Building 7 was pulled over by cranes & excavators look like the nutters in the whole debate.

It never happened.

Where did the concrete and steel disappear to? Fire does not consume concrete and steel.

Back to top

Please don't thank me. Effusive fawning and obeisance of disciples, mendicants, and foot-kissers embarrass me.

IP Logged

Laugh till you cry Gold Member Offline Posts: 16619 In your happy place Gender:	Re: 911 was an inside job by Bush insiders Reply #319 - Feb 24^th, 2014 at 11:50pm What about the Bush dupes who believe WTC 1, 2, 7 and others were destroyed by a fire which consumed all the concrete and steel. The towers were pulverized to dust including steel, concrete and even the porcelain toilets.
Back to top	Please don't thank me. Effusive fawning and obeisance of disciples, mendicants, and foot-kissers embarrass me. IP Logged

Gnads

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 29395
Gender: male

Re: 911 was an inside job by Bush insiders
Reply #320 - Feb 25^th, 2014 at 6:20am

Ask Baron... he reckons his version of events is the only true & plausible one.

Despite not being able to explain something that has never been seen before.

Dr. Woods' expose explains how the dust may seem to contain traces of Thermite even though it may not have been used....

but it's correct to say that fire could not bend, cut or turn steel & concrete to dust.

How is the lack of rubble(tonnages proportionate to the size of the buildings) explained Baron.

Why were those who were preparing to jump(without hope of survival) from 109 floors up hanging out the windows & taking their clothes off?

Back to top

"When you are dead, you do not know you are dead. It's only painful and difficult for others. The same applies when you are stupid." ~ Ricky Gervais

IP Logged

Gnads

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 29395
Gender: male

Re: 911 was an inside job by Bush insiders
Reply #321 - Feb 25^th, 2014 at 6:23am

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 24^th, 2014 at 5:56pm:

Gnads wrote on Feb 24^th, 2014 at 5:05pm:

But again it doesn't support the argument put forth by the terrorist plane strike & fire believers

& the step through of events certainly makes the nongs who believe Building 7 was pulled over by cranes & excavators look like the nutters in the whole debate.

It was building 6 that was pulled down by cranes, many other buildings were pulled down as well because damage made them unsafe.

Here is a peer reviewed report on building 7, the nutjobs will ignore it because they filter out anything that does not come from nutjobs.

www.structuremag.org/Archives/2007-11/SF-WTC7-Gilsanz-Nov07.pdf

Can any of the nutjobs who insist thermite was used cite a case where thermite has cut a horizontal line in a vertical column?

The WTC tower physics paper said the kinetic energy from the falling towers was equivalent to how many tons of TNT?

And if it had acted like TNT all those surrounding buildings that were relatively unscathed would have be blasted to shreds.... so BS.

TNT or kinetic energy does not turn steel & concrete to dust.

Back to top

"When you are dead, you do not know you are dead. It's only painful and difficult for others. The same applies when you are stupid." ~ Ricky Gervais

IP Logged

Laugh till you cry

Gold Member

Offline

Posts: 16619
In your happy place
Gender: male

Re: 911 was an inside job by Bush insiders
Reply #322 - Feb 25^th, 2014 at 10:26am

Gnads wrote on Feb 25^th, 2014 at 6:23am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 24^th, 2014 at 5:56pm:

Gnads wrote on Feb 24^th, 2014 at 5:05pm:

But again it doesn't support the argument put forth by the terrorist plane strike & fire believers

& the step through of events certainly makes the nongs who believe Building 7 was pulled over by cranes & excavators look like the nutters in the whole debate.

It was building 6 that was pulled down by cranes, many other buildings were pulled down as well because damage made them unsafe.

Here is a peer reviewed report on building 7, the nutjobs will ignore it because they filter out anything that does not come from nutjobs.

www.structuremag.org/Archives/2007-11/SF-WTC7-Gilsanz-Nov07.pdf

Can any of the nutjobs who insist thermite was used cite a case where thermite has cut a horizontal line in a vertical column?

The WTC tower physics paper said the kinetic energy from the falling towers was equivalent to how many tons of TNT?

And if it had acted like TNT all those surrounding buildings that were relatively unscathed would have be blasted to shreds.... so BS.

TNT or kinetic energy does not turn steel & concrete to dust.

Fire does not pulverize concrete and steel and porcelain toilets.

Back to top

Please don't thank me. Effusive fawning and obeisance of disciples, mendicants, and foot-kissers embarrass me.

IP Logged

Datalife

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 2405
Gender: male

Re: 911 was an inside job by Bush insiders
Reply #323 - Feb 25^th, 2014 at 10:42am

Gnads wrote on Feb 25^th, 2014 at 6:23am:

And if it had acted like TNT all those surrounding buildings that were relatively unscathed would have be blasted to shreds.... so BS.

TNT or kinetic energy does not turn steel & concrete to dust.

Couple of things, having the equivalent energy is not the same as acting in the same way. You might have heard that the bushfires of a few years were equal in energy to an atomic bomb, but it didn't act like an atomic bomb.

A hydroelectric dam would have the equivalent energy of thousands of tons of TNT.

And finally, kinetic energy does turn concrete into dust. Happens every day. Ever seen a pneumatic hammer as used by construction workers? Ever dropped a block of concrete or dropped something onto it from high enough for that kinetic energy to break it up?

Back to top

"If they’re out there in the high seas, what you would do is seek to turn them back through the agency of the Australian Navy".

Kevin Rudd on 2GB, July 12, 2007

IP Logged

Bobby.

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 103841
Melbourne
Gender: male

Re: 911 was an inside job by Bush insiders
Reply #324 - Feb 25^th, 2014 at 10:51am

Datalife wrote on Feb 25^th, 2014 at 10:42am:

Gnads wrote on Feb 25^th, 2014 at 6:23am:

And if it had acted like TNT all those surrounding buildings that were relatively unscathed would have be blasted to shreds.... so BS.

TNT or kinetic energy does not turn steel & concrete to dust.

Couple of things, having the equivalent energy is not the same as acting in the same way. You might have heard that the bushfires of a few years were equal in energy to an atomic bomb, but it didn't act like an atomic bomb.

A hydroelectric dam would have the equivalent energy of thousands of tons of TNT.

And finally, kinetic energy does turn concrete into dust. Happens every day. Ever seen a pneumatic hammer as used by construction workers? Ever dropped a block of concrete or dropped something onto it from high enough for that kinetic energy to break it up?

You can argue all day about concrete turning to dust.

The biggest question is why so much evidence was removed
& why other evidence was not released to the public.

Back to top

IP Logged

Prime Minister for Canyons

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 26906
Canberra
Gender: male

Re: 911 was an inside job by Bush insiders
Reply #325 - Feb 25^th, 2014 at 10:52am

Bobby. wrote on Feb 25^th, 2014 at 10:51am:

Datalife wrote on Feb 25^th, 2014 at 10:42am:

Gnads wrote on Feb 25^th, 2014 at 6:23am:

And if it had acted like TNT all those surrounding buildings that were relatively unscathed would have be blasted to shreds.... so BS.

TNT or kinetic energy does not turn steel & concrete to dust.

Couple of things, having the equivalent energy is not the same as acting in the same way. You might have heard that the bushfires of a few years were equal in energy to an atomic bomb, but it didn't act like an atomic bomb.

A hydroelectric dam would have the equivalent energy of thousands of tons of TNT.

And finally, kinetic energy does turn concrete into dust. Happens every day. Ever seen a pneumatic hammer as used by construction workers? Ever dropped a block of concrete or dropped something onto it from high enough for that kinetic energy to break it up?

You can argue all day about concrete turning to dust.

The biggest question is why so much evidence was removed
& why other evidence was not released to the public.

How do we know it exists if it wasn't released.

Back to top

In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)

IP Logged

Bobby.

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 103841
Melbourne
Gender: male

Re: 911 was an inside job by Bush insiders
Reply #326 - Feb 25^th, 2014 at 10:58am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 25^th, 2014 at 10:52am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 25^th, 2014 at 10:51am:

Datalife wrote on Feb 25^th, 2014 at 10:42am:

Gnads wrote on Feb 25^th, 2014 at 6:23am:

And if it had acted like TNT all those surrounding buildings that were relatively unscathed would have be blasted to shreds.... so BS.

TNT or kinetic energy does not turn steel & concrete to dust.

Couple of things, having the equivalent energy is not the same as acting in the same way. You might have heard that the bushfires of a few years were equal in energy to an atomic bomb, but it didn't act like an atomic bomb.

A hydroelectric dam would have the equivalent energy of thousands of tons of TNT.

And finally, kinetic energy does turn concrete into dust. Happens every day. Ever seen a pneumatic hammer as used by construction workers? Ever dropped a block of concrete or dropped something onto it from high enough for that kinetic energy to break it up?

You can argue all day about concrete turning to dust.

The biggest question is why so much evidence was removed
& why other evidence was not released to the public.

How do we know it exists if it wasn't released.

There were at least a dozen cameras that filmed the crash
of the "plane" into the Pentagon -
footage never released -
that's only one example.

Back to top

IP Logged

Sophia

Gold Member

Offline

Posts: 8354

Re: 911 was an inside job by Bush insiders
Reply #327 - Feb 25^th, 2014 at 12:05pm

Once again, from a few pages back, I will have to post this up again because I think some posters or Johnny-come-lately's are having trouble keeping up.....so in answer to the question re: files and videos confiscated by the FBI (and those asking how do we know if it ever existed if we haven't seen them before).....just remember something, that the Pentagon is the most heavily guarded building with cameras EVERYWHERE.....so that, my friends, is the proof in the pudding that it has all been kept from us or any authority making an investigation, properly.

So again, I put up this link below, take a look and learn from it.
This was only released recently, after a law suit to have it released,
yes, it has taken that long, imagine, just for this to be released, and all the other stuff hidden from us, would take lots of $$$$$$$, court cases, law suits, and time. Angry

The whole point of this, is to clarify that yes, the FBI and whomever else, can do that and have done so, keep video footage from letting anyone see what really happened.
So why is that?
As been expressed, something to hide perhaps? Roll Eyes

Quote:

...this was a confiscated video by the FBI, and just released as a result of a law suit.

WHERE IS THE BOEING?

http://video.creode.co/never-aired-pentagon-911-video-hd-where-is-the-boeing-video_c9ef54877.html

[/quote]

Back to top

« Last Edit: Feb 25^th, 2014 at 12:37pm by Sophia »

IP Logged

Sophia

Gold Member

Offline

Posts: 8354

Re: 911 was an inside job by Bush insiders
Reply #328 - Feb 25^th, 2014 at 12:18pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 25^th, 2014 at 10:26am:

Gnads wrote on Feb 25^th, 2014 at 6:23am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 24^th, 2014 at 5:56pm:

Gnads wrote on Feb 24^th, 2014 at 5:05pm:

But again it doesn't support the argument put forth by the terrorist plane strike & fire believers

& the step through of events certainly makes the nongs who believe Building 7 was pulled over by cranes & excavators look like the nutters in the whole debate.

It was building 6 that was pulled down by cranes, many other buildings were pulled down as well because damage made them unsafe.

Here is a peer reviewed report on building 7, the nutjobs will ignore it because they filter out anything that does not come from nutjobs.

www.structuremag.org/Archives/2007-11/SF-WTC7-Gilsanz-Nov07.pdf

Can any of the nutjobs who insist thermite was used cite a case where thermite has cut a horizontal line in a vertical column?

The WTC tower physics paper said the kinetic energy from the falling towers was equivalent to how many tons of TNT?

And if it had acted like TNT all those surrounding buildings that were relatively unscathed would have be blasted to shreds.... so BS.

TNT or kinetic energy does not turn steel & concrete to dust.

Fire does not pulverize concrete and steel and porcelain toilets.

If this wasn't so serious, I would laugh at the toilet sceanario....but in all honestly, can anyone, see any photos, of ALL THE BROKEN UP PORCELAIN TOILETS??????????????
There must have been, (I am guessing from having worked in high rises in Melbourne office buildings) at the least 4 toilets on each floor, multiplied by over 100 floors multiplied by 3 buildings....
equals to approx 400 toilets per building multiplied by 3 equals 1,200 (at an absolute minimum).

Whew, where on earth did over 1200 toilets end up?
Where are pieces of broken up porcelains?

And also, if you watch the photos/video Doctor Judy shows, of the top part of the building when it is falling down, it pulverises to dust like magic, before it even goes half way down.
Turns to dust mid air Shocked

Yes, we can ask questions, but moreso, the survivors and families that have lost loved ones truly are the ones with questions unanswered.

Here is a link to begin with.

http://patriotsquestion911.com/survivors.html

Back to top

« Last Edit: Feb 25^th, 2014 at 1:01pm by Sophia »

IP Logged

Baronvonrort

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 18383
Gender: male

Re: 911 was an inside job by Bush insiders
Reply #329 - Feb 25^th, 2014 at 1:29pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 25^th, 2014 at 10:26am:

Gnads wrote on Feb 25^th, 2014 at 6:23am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 24^th, 2014 at 5:56pm:

Gnads wrote on Feb 24^th, 2014 at 5:05pm:

But again it doesn't support the argument put forth by the terrorist plane strike & fire believers

& the step through of events certainly makes the nongs who believe Building 7 was pulled over by cranes & excavators look like the nutters in the whole debate.

It was building 6 that was pulled down by cranes, many other buildings were pulled down as well because damage made them unsafe.

Here is a peer reviewed report on building 7, the nutjobs will ignore it because they filter out anything that does not come from nutjobs.

www.structuremag.org/Archives/2007-11/SF-WTC7-Gilsanz-Nov07.pdf

Can any of the nutjobs who insist thermite was used cite a case where thermite has cut a horizontal line in a vertical column?

The WTC tower physics paper said the kinetic energy from the falling towers was equivalent to how many tons of TNT?

And if it had acted like TNT all those surrounding buildings that were relatively unscathed would have be blasted to shreds.... so BS.

TNT or kinetic energy does not turn steel & concrete to dust.

Fire does not pulverize concrete and steel and porcelain toilets.

The link i posted many times in this thread covers the energy required to turn the concrete into small particles, obviously the nutjobs did not read it because they filter out anything that debunks the nutjob theory, perhaps it is the mathematics they have trouble with, there is a lot of mathematics in Physics.

The nutjobs will find the answer in here in this peer reviewed Physics paper which has been posted numerous times-
www.911myths.com/WTCREPORT.pdf

The nutjobs expect us to fritter away our lives watching their crappy youtube videos yet they never read anything that debunks their garbage nutjob theory.

The videos of the falling towers shows what happened to the concrete, the peer reviewed Physics paper explains why.

Back to top

Leftists and the Ayatollahs have a lot in common when it comes to criticism of Islam, they don't tolerate it.

IP Logged