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Reply #30 - Feb 16^th, 2014 at 11:33am

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Feb 16^th, 2014 at 11:18am:

adelcrow wrote on Feb 16^th, 2014 at 9:07am:

While Abbott is touring the drought stricken parts of Australia this weekend will he be apologising to them about lying about the effects of atmospheric pollution and the catastrophic effects of climate change on our farmers?

Well no, he has nothing to do with it.
Why don't you go in his stead and apologise for the weather. Grin

Abbott is a denialist on AGW

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Reply #31 - Feb 16^th, 2014 at 11:37am

____ wrote on Feb 16^th, 2014 at 11:33am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Feb 16^th, 2014 at 11:18am:

adelcrow wrote on Feb 16^th, 2014 at 9:07am:

While Abbott is touring the drought stricken parts of Australia this weekend will he be apologising to them about lying about the effects of atmospheric pollution and the catastrophic effects of climate change on our farmers?

Well no, he has nothing to do with it.
Why don't you go in his stead and apologise for the weather. Grin

Abbott is a denialist on AGW

So what.
He's still not responsible for the weather.
One of the only certainty a farmer can count on in this country is drought.
And this has always been so.

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Innocent bystander Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4220 Gender:	Re: Time Australia Purged AGW Denialist From Govt. Reply #32 - Feb 16^th, 2014 at 11:49am The parliament should represent the view of the public and most of the public now thinks man made climate change is a bunch of BS, thats how we ended up with Tony "climate change is crap" Abbott and thats why the staunch AGW greens went backwards
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Reply #33 - Feb 16^th, 2014 at 11:56am

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Feb 16^th, 2014 at 11:37am:

____ wrote on Feb 16^th, 2014 at 11:33am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Feb 16^th, 2014 at 11:18am:

adelcrow wrote on Feb 16^th, 2014 at 9:07am:

While Abbott is touring the drought stricken parts of Australia this weekend will he be apologising to them about lying about the effects of atmospheric pollution and the catastrophic effects of climate change on our farmers?

Well no, he has nothing to do with it.
Why don't you go in his stead and apologise for the weather. Grin

Abbott is a denialist on AGW

So what.
He's still not responsible for the weather.
One of the only certainty a farmer can count on in this country is drought.
And this has always been so.

He is responsible for future human caused climate change though. And that means more extremes including deeper and more intense droughts.

He should apologies for driving agricultural in Australia towards extinction. Driving more farmers to take their guns and shoot a bullet through their heads.

Abbott is an enemy amongst the ranks.

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Reply #34 - Feb 16^th, 2014 at 11:59am

Innocent bystander wrote on Feb 16^th, 2014 at 11:49am:

The parliament should represent the view of the public and most of the public now thinks man made climate change is a bunch of BS, thats how we ended up with Tony "climate change is crap" Abbott and thats why the staunch AGW greens went backwards Grin

Got any polling on that … the election was not a referendum on the science of climate change … and we all know abbott is terrorfied of going to a DD election over climate catastrophy with all these wildfires and extreme weather occurances happening.

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Reply #35 - Feb 16^th, 2014 at 12:13pm

____ wrote on Feb 16^th, 2014 at 11:56am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Feb 16^th, 2014 at 11:37am:

____ wrote on Feb 16^th, 2014 at 11:33am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Feb 16^th, 2014 at 11:18am:

adelcrow wrote on Feb 16^th, 2014 at 9:07am:

While Abbott is touring the drought stricken parts of Australia this weekend will he be apologising to them about lying about the effects of atmospheric pollution and the catastrophic effects of climate change on our farmers?

Well no, he has nothing to do with it.
Why don't you go in his stead and apologise for the weather. Grin

Abbott is a denialist on AGW

So what.
He's still not responsible for the weather.
One of the only certainty a farmer can count on in this country is drought.
And this has always been so.

He is responsible for future human caused climate change though. And that means more extremes including deeper and more intense droughts.

He should apologies for driving agricultural in Australia towards extinction. Driving more farmers to take their guns and shoot a bullet through their heads.

Abbott is an enemy amongst the ranks.

Well he's not going to apologise for the weather, and neither will any one else for that matter eh.
And he is especially not going to apologise after only being in office five months.

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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: Time Australia Purged AGW Denialist From Govt. Reply #36 - Feb 16^th, 2014 at 12:17pm Not after an sorry over weather … it's a sorry over opposing action on reducing human caused climate change over the years. denialists are the enemy amongst us.
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Reply #37 - Feb 16^th, 2014 at 12:26pm

____ wrote on Feb 16^th, 2014 at 8:01am:

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 16^th, 2014 at 7:53am:

____ wrote on Feb 16^th, 2014 at 7:45am:

Just because we are not liberal or labor does not mean we will not form majority government.
As the collapse continues and speeds up, voters will dump old parties and old ways.

Unless there is a massive change in belief and behaviour by the greens you will always be nothing more than a party of spoilers and fringe dwellers.

Even children eventually grow out of their childish ways and realise that behaving like a whiney petulant child wears thing with most people.

The core values of the Greens are the key to future survivial of the human race.

People will dump the old parties and either build satellite parties alongside the Greens or join the Greens.
We all know the old parties can not morph into new parties because they are full of dinosaurs.

Greens win you make a great advertisement for the Greens, long may you advocate for them.

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Reply #38 - Feb 16^th, 2014 at 12:31pm

____ wrote on Feb 16^th, 2014 at 11:59am:

Innocent bystander wrote on Feb 16^th, 2014 at 11:49am:

The parliament should represent the view of the public and most of the public now thinks man made climate change is a bunch of BS, thats how we ended up with Tony "climate change is crap" Abbott and thats why the staunch AGW greens went backwards Grin

Got any polling on that

LOL, you're such a parody Grin

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Reply #39 - Feb 16^th, 2014 at 1:32pm

Innocent bystander wrote on Feb 16^th, 2014 at 11:49am:

The parliament should represent the view of the public

No, the Parliament should represent the INTERESTS of the public. The two are not the same.

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and most of the public now thinks man made climate change is a bunch of BS,

Bogus statistics. In other words, you're making up rubbish.

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thats how we ended up with Tony "climate change is crap" Abbott

No, Abbott did not win his only term as PM due to his Palaeolithic stance on AGW, he won because the public voted out the previous government. His climate change policies - or lack of them - were not at the top of most people's lists of reasons for choosing a vote - and unlike you I have seen the polling to support this.

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and thats why the staunch AGW greens went backwards Grin

No, that's got nothing to do with it.

Your whole post is unsupported conjecture.

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Reply #40 - Feb 16^th, 2014 at 1:35pm

____ wrote on Feb 16^th, 2014 at 8:01am:

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 16^th, 2014 at 7:53am:

____ wrote on Feb 16^th, 2014 at 7:45am:

Just because we are not liberal or labor does not mean we will not form majority government.
As the collapse continues and speeds up, voters will dump old parties and old ways.

Unless there is a massive change in belief and behaviour by the greens you will always be nothing more than a party of spoilers and fringe dwellers.

Even children eventually grow out of their childish ways and realise that behaving like a whiney petulant child wears thing with most people.

The core values of the Greens are the key to future survivial of the human race.

People will dump the old parties and either build satellite parties alongside the Greens or join the Greens.
We all know the old parties can not morph into new parties because they are full of dinosaurs.

The Greens will continue to exist only as long as there is a gap between the policies of the major parties and policies that put the protection of the environment first.

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Re: Time Australia Purged AGW Denialist From Govt.
Reply #41 - Feb 16^th, 2014 at 1:45pm

____ wrote on Feb 16^th, 2014 at 8:04am:

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 16^th, 2014 at 7:56am:

____ wrote on Feb 16^th, 2014 at 7:51am:

Lets see how many people will die before greed capitalism overtakes …
We are only about 15 years from peak phosphorus & peak phosphate.

We are close to peak soil

We are overpopulated due to capitalism being a pyramid scheme.

And what do greed capitalists want … to speed up the collapse.

Well that is enough bullsh1t to fertilise the country for a decade or two.

Food production and consumption is in for a major shake up and in our lifetime.
AGW denial is speeding this up and especially the denialists in government.

What is needed is a pragmatic approach. One need not be entirely convinced of the evidence to support AGW to understand that there is a risk that needs to be managed. It's like buying insurance. We spend too much time arguing about whether AGW is real and not enough time evaluating the risks.

I recommend that people watch this video. It explains the four possible outcomes with AGW and risk management.

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Reply #42 - Feb 16^th, 2014 at 4:58pm

Bam wrote on Feb 16^th, 2014 at 1:35pm:

____ wrote on Feb 16^th, 2014 at 8:01am:

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 16^th, 2014 at 7:53am:

____ wrote on Feb 16^th, 2014 at 7:45am:

Just because we are not liberal or labor does not mean we will not form majority government.
As the collapse continues and speeds up, voters will dump old parties and old ways.

Unless there is a massive change in belief and behaviour by the greens you will always be nothing more than a party of spoilers and fringe dwellers.

Even children eventually grow out of their childish ways and realise that behaving like a whiney petulant child wears thing with most people.

The core values of the Greens are the key to future survivial of the human race.

People will dump the old parties and either build satellite parties alongside the Greens or join the Greens.
We all know the old parties can not morph into new parties because they are full of dinosaurs.

The Greens will continue to exist only as long as there is a gap between the policies of the major parties and policies that put the protection of the environment first.

yet the Greens ever since Brown have been known as the Watermelon Party because the true conservationsist left or were booted out of the party and the socialists came flooding in and their policies have reflected this change ever since.

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True Blue... Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3748 Gender:	Re: Time Australia Purged AGW Denialist From Govt. Reply #44 - Feb 16^th, 2014 at 7:22pm Hitler got rid of all the people who didn't share his views either...
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