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Innocent bystander Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4220 Gender:	Re: Time Australia Purged AGW Denialist From Govt. Reply #45 - Feb 16^th, 2014 at 7:28pm Poor old fascist left, they are unable to convince people by fair means so they try foul means, they are just trying to convert everyone to idiocy.
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Reply #46 - Feb 16^th, 2014 at 7:33pm

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 16^th, 2014 at 7:44am:

____ wrote on Feb 16^th, 2014 at 7:36am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 16^th, 2014 at 7:28am:

You do realise of course that 'Climate Change' is a Stalking Horse for socialism, don't you?

In that the business as usual model of greed capitalism is driving AGW damage … yes.

A more democratic socialistic world in around the corner so to starve off mass starvation and climate wars.

A more socialistic world is part of the solution.

You only want a more socialist world so you can continue to bludge and not feel like a lazy free loader.
Socialism fails because it entices the lazy and the stupid to do nothing, hoping what ever they need is taken from someone else.

BTW socilalism has starved more people to death over the last century than any other form of government, so not realy a good idea now is it.

So says the guy who screams for more socialism for the AGW "please give me another hand out" farmers. Whose the lazy freeloading bludgers????

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Reply #47 - Feb 16^th, 2014 at 10:38pm

____ wrote on Feb 16^th, 2014 at 7:14am:

Sack all Cabinet climate change sceptics, say the Greens

The Green Party of England and Wales has called for a purge of government advisers and ministers who do not share its views on climate change. Published 14 February of 2014.

The Greens are now insisting the government gets rid of any cabinet minister who takes a different view on climate change

The greens are fascists who demonise anyone who disagrees with their myopic world views.

Do the greens tolerate people who do not agree with green lunacy?

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Reply #48 - Feb 17^th, 2014 at 1:48am

adelcrow wrote on Feb 16^th, 2014 at 9:07am:

While Abbott is touring the drought stricken parts of Australia this weekend will he be apologising to them about lying about the effects of atmospheric pollution and the catastrophic effects of climate change on our farmers?

Probably not. Because the farmers would laugh at him if he tried to blame AGW for what ( the farmers well know) are natural, common occurrences.

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"I just get sick of people who place a label on someone else with their own definition.

It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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Reply #49 - Feb 17^th, 2014 at 5:23am

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 17^th, 2014 at 1:48am:

adelcrow wrote on Feb 16^th, 2014 at 9:07am:

While Abbott is touring the drought stricken parts of Australia this weekend will he be apologising to them about lying about the effects of atmospheric pollution and the catastrophic effects of climate change on our farmers?

Probably not. Because the farmers would laugh at him if he tried to blame AGW for what ( the farmers well know) are natural, common occurrences.

Thats not nice gimo, implying farmers are uneducated hicks who listen to shock radio all day and so deny basic science.

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progressiveslol Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17029	Re: Time Australia Purged AGW Denialist From Govt. Reply #50 - Feb 17^th, 2014 at 6:40am Good that the greens give an outright example of their little dictator traits.
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Kat Gold Member Offline Socialism IS the answer. Posts: 17709 Everywhere and no-where Gender:	Re: Time Australia Purged AGW Denialist From Govt. Reply #51 - Feb 17^th, 2014 at 6:50am progressiveslol wrote on Feb 17^th, 2014 at 6:40am: Good that the greens give an outright example of their little dictator traits. That's a bit rich, coming from someone who supports Rightist filth such as Abbott and Newman. Got a bit of a hide calling others 'dictators'.
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Kat Gold Member Offline Socialism IS the answer. Posts: 17709 Everywhere and no-where Gender:	Re: Time Australia Purged AGW Denialist From Govt. Reply #52 - Feb 17^th, 2014 at 6:52am Innocent bystander wrote on Feb 16^th, 2014 at 7:28pm: Poor old fascist left, they are unable to convince people by fair means so they try foul means, they are just trying to convert everyone to idiocy. In your case, no conversion is necessary. You are already there.
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Reply #53 - Feb 17^th, 2014 at 7:02am

____ wrote on Feb 17^th, 2014 at 5:23am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 17^th, 2014 at 1:48am:

adelcrow wrote on Feb 16^th, 2014 at 9:07am:

While Abbott is touring the drought stricken parts of Australia this weekend will he be apologising to them about lying about the effects of atmospheric pollution and the catastrophic effects of climate change on our farmers?

Probably not. Because the farmers would laugh at him if he tried to blame AGW for what ( the farmers well know) are natural, common occurrences.

Thats not nice gimo, implying farmers are uneducated hicks who listen to shock radio all day and so deny basic science.

Quite the opposite Greens. I'm stating (not implying) that farmers are NOT over educated, gullible fools who choose to believe politicised science, instead of the evidence of their own senses and experience (both personal and that of their parents/grandparents).

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"I just get sick of people who place a label on someone else with their own definition.

It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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Reply #54 - Feb 17^th, 2014 at 8:13am

Grendel wrote on Feb 16^th, 2014 at 4:58pm:

Bam wrote on Feb 16^th, 2014 at 1:35pm:

____ wrote on Feb 16^th, 2014 at 8:01am:

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 16^th, 2014 at 7:53am:

____ wrote on Feb 16^th, 2014 at 7:45am:

Just because we are not liberal or labor does not mean we will not form majority government.
As the collapse continues and speeds up, voters will dump old parties and old ways.

Unless there is a massive change in belief and behaviour by the greens you will always be nothing more than a party of spoilers and fringe dwellers.

Even children eventually grow out of their childish ways and realise that behaving like a whiney petulant child wears thing with most people.

The core values of the Greens are the key to future survivial of the human race.

People will dump the old parties and either build satellite parties alongside the Greens or join the Greens.
We all know the old parties can not morph into new parties because they are full of dinosaurs.

The Greens will continue to exist only as long as there is a gap between the policies of the major parties and policies that put the protection of the environment first.

yet the Greens ever since Brown have been known as the Watermelon Party because the true conservationsist left or were booted out of the party and the socialists came flooding in and their policies have reflected this change ever since.

Do you have evidence to support this?

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Bam Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21905 Gender:	Re: Time Australia Purged AGW Denialist From Govt. Reply #55 - Feb 17^th, 2014 at 8:15am True Blue... wrote on Feb 16^th, 2014 at 7:22pm: Hitler got rid of all the people who didn't share his views either... So did Howard.
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Reply #56 - Feb 17^th, 2014 at 8:22am

Innocent bystander wrote on Feb 16^th, 2014 at 7:28pm:

Poor old fascist left, they are unable to convince people by fair means so they try foul means, they are just trying to convert everyone to idiocy.

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 16^th, 2014 at 10:38pm:

The greens are fascists who demonise anyone who disagrees with their myopic world views.

Do the greens tolerate people who do not agree with green lunacy?

You are both labelling the Greens "fascists" without any proof. Fascism is a RIGHT-WING ideology. The Greens are a party of the LEFT. It is an inaccurate comparison to the extent of being deliberately deceitful.

If you had called the Greens socialists that might have got off the ground, but fascist? Grin

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St George of the Garden Gold Member Offline http://tinyurl.com/n 3o8m2x Posts: 9809 Gender:	Re: Time Australia Purged AGW Denialist From Govt. Reply #57 - Feb 17^th, 2014 at 8:50am “Politicised science”—the weird words of deniers.
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Reply #58 - Feb 17^th, 2014 at 9:00am

____ wrote on Feb 16^th, 2014 at 7:41am:

St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 16^th, 2014 at 7:35am:

Herbie—you do realise that fossil fuel industries have sought to make AGW a Right v Left thing instead of a science thing?

Actions like the market–based Carbon Price are not Trojan horses for socialism. (A new Red under the Bed nonsense.)

We cannot combat AGW without bringing the electorate along with us. Greens are a problem here, not the solution.

I would of thought one of Australia's problems is both old parties have AGW denialists in them.

Australia's inconvenience is having Green twats like you come into the country and bludge off it, then offer your ridiculous tree-hugging shyte about what it should or shouldn't do without invitation.

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Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
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Reply #59 - Feb 17^th, 2014 at 9:01am

St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 17^th, 2014 at 8:50am:

“Politicised science”—the weird words of deniers.

But don't you 'believe' that skepticism ( it's not denial, no matter how much you try to spin it) is politically motivated???

The alarmist side is very much motivated by politics, not science.

Science doesn't call for purges when confronted by differences of opinion.

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"I just get sick of people who place a label on someone else with their own definition.

It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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