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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95259 Gender:	Re: Palestine - a nation with a prestigious history Reply #120 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 8:59pm freediver wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 8:30pm: Do they tell this to people just before they chop their heads off? It might offer some reassurance. Not usually, FD. We usually just shout Allah Uakbar and let Gud sort it out. Kill em all, eh? We’re quite secular that way.
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Reply #121 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 9:03pm

Karnal wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 8:59pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 8:30pm:

Do they tell this to people just before they chop their heads off? It might offer some reassurance.

Not usually, FD. We usually just shout Allah Uakbar and let Gud sort it out.

Kill em all, eh?

We’re quite secular that way.

Yeah its one big dam joke aint it mate.

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Reply #122 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 9:20pm

Mattywisk wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 9:03pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 8:59pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 8:30pm:

Do they tell this to people just before they chop their heads off? It might offer some reassurance.

Not usually, FD. We usually just shout Allah Uakbar and let Gud sort it out.

Kill em all, eh?

We’re quite secular that way.

Yeah its one big dam joke aint it mate.

Excuse me, I won’t have you talk about the Old Testament in such a manner. It is the Will of Gud.

Do something with this one, Moderator. He’s speaking out against the Marines.

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Reply #123 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 9:25pm

Karnal wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 9:20pm:

Mattywisk wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 9:03pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 8:59pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 8:30pm:

Do they tell this to people just before they chop their heads off? It might offer some reassurance.

Not usually, FD. We usually just shout Allah Uakbar and let Gud sort it out.

Kill em all, eh?

We’re quite secular that way.

Yeah its one big dam joke aint it mate.

Excuse me, I won’t have you talk about the Old Testament in such a manner. It is the Will of Gud.

Do something with this one, Moderator. He’s speaking out against the Marines.

Go spread your shyte hero in a dump of a country that take your muslime bullshit

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Palestine - a nation with a prestigious history Reply #124 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 9:31pm freediver wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 8:30pm: Do they tell this to people just before they chop their heads off? It might offer some reassurance. Who knows FD? Perhaps you should be asking someone who is in to chopping apostates heads off rather than me.
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Reply #125 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 10:28pm

Karnal wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 8:59pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 8:30pm:

Do they tell this to people just before they chop their heads off? It might offer some reassurance.

Not usually, FD. We usually just shout Allah Uakbar and let Gud sort it out.

Kill em all, eh?

We’re quite secular that way.

Yeah, ive seen that BIKER T-shirt too.

I had an inkling that you were really a 'secular' moslem, gandalf [whoops] Karnal.

Not really a 'true believer'.

Well, not today at least.

"Kill em all! .....and let God sort it out."

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Reply #126 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 10:31pm

Mattywisk wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 9:25pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 9:20pm:

Mattywisk wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 9:03pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 8:59pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 8:30pm:

Do they tell this to people just before they chop their heads off? It might offer some reassurance.

Not usually, FD. We usually just shout Allah Uakbar and let Gud sort it out.

Kill em all, eh?

We’re quite secular that way.

Yeah its one big dam joke aint it mate.

Excuse me, I won’t have you talk about the Old Testament in such a manner. It is the Will of Gud.

Do something with this one, Moderator. He’s speaking out against the Marines.

Go spread your shyte hero in a dump of a country that take your muslime bullshit

Now now, it’s wasteful to smear, you know.

I’ll thank you to serve it on a plate to the customers..

Bon Apetite.

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Mattywisk Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1373 Gender:	Re: Palestine - a nation with a prestigious history Reply #127 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 10:32pm .
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Reply #128 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 10:33pm

Karnal wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 10:31pm:

Mattywisk wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 9:25pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 9:20pm:

Mattywisk wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 9:03pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 8:59pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 8:30pm:

Do they tell this to people just before they chop their heads off? It might offer some reassurance.

Not usually, FD. We usually just shout Allah Uakbar and let Gud sort it out.

Kill em all, eh?

We’re quite secular that way.

Yeah its one big dam joke aint it mate.

Excuse me, I won’t have you talk about the Old Testament in such a manner. It is the Will of Gud.

Do something with this one, Moderator. He’s speaking out against the Marines.

Go spread your shyte hero in a dump of a country that take your muslime bullshit

Now now, it’s wasteful to smear, you know.

I’ll thank you to serve it on a plate to the customers..

Bon Apetite.

Eat up mooslime you know you want too..

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95259 Gender:	Re: Palestine - a nation with a prestigious history Reply #129 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 10:42pm Mattywisk wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 10:32pm: . Much better.
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Reply #130 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 10:44pm

Karnal wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 10:42pm:

Mattywisk wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 10:32pm:

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Much better.

That would be the sum of all your intellect could handle I guess.

Finished friday night prayers yet ? better pop that mobile phone away before the cleric see's you. What would pretend allah say Grin

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Reply #131 - Jun 7^th, 2014 at 7:53am

moses wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 3:11pm:

The Palestine Mandate. July 24, 1922.

In July 1922, the League of Nations entrusted the Great Britain with The Palestine Mandate. Recognizing "the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine," Great Britain was called upon to facilitate the establishment of a Jewish national home in Palestine - Eretz Israel (Land of Israel).

General Assembly resolution 181, of Nov. 29, 1947: It calls for the partition of Palestine into Jewish and Arab states, with Jerusalem to be controlled by a "special international regime" to protect its holy places. The Zionist movement seeking to establish a Jewish state accepted the partition, the Arabs rejected it. The resolution was not carried out: After Israel declared its independence on May 14, 1948, war broke out pitting the embryonic state against surrounding 7 Arab states. Israel gained more land than it would have had under the partition resolution. Neither Israel nor Jordan, which controlled the divided parts of Jerusalem after the war, accepted control of the holy city by an international body.

Security Council resolution 242, Nov. 22, 1967: It calls for
"withdrawal of Israel armed forces from territories occupied" in the 1967 Six Day War and for "respect for and acknowledgment of the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of every State in the area and their right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of force." The resolution was not carried out because the Arab side did not recognize Israel, and Israel refused to withdraw.

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Under international law,

...Israel has no obligation to withdraw from captured territory [e.g. territories won in 1967],
if doing so would threaten the security and safety of the state of Israel.

Israel has rights, under plain, simple, existing international law, relating to all of the territory which was captured by Israel, in the aftermath of attacks upon Israel, by Arab/moslem aggressors.....

islam and jews

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1299665041/39#39
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......international law allows nations who are attacked [e.g. the state of Israel, 1948, 1967, 1973], to occupy and annex land that was previously recognised as being a part of another state [e.g. Arab states, 1948] because of aggression and attacks, upon a neighbouring state [Israel, 1948].

And international laws does not prohibit a state which was attacked [e.g. the state of Israel, 1948], from occupying and annexing the lands of an aggressor, so as to prevent further attacks.

......"ISRAEL AND INTERNATIONAL LAW....Israel’s presence in all these areas pending negotiation of new borders is entirely lawful, since Israel entered them lawfully in self-defence. International law forbids acquisition by unlawful force, but not where, as in the case of Israel’s self-defence in 1967, the entry on the territory was lawful. It does not so forbid it,

....for the effect of such prohibition would be to guarantee to all potential aggressors that, even if their aggression failed, all territory lost in the attempt would be automatically returned to them.

Such a rule would be absurd to the point of lunacy.

There is no such rule..."

http://www.melaniephillips.com/diary/?p=1528

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95259 Gender:	Re: Palestine - a nation with a prestigious history Reply #132 - Jun 7^th, 2014 at 11:18am True, Y. Saddam said the same about Kuwait in 1991. Pity the UN chose to invade though. So unfair. Saddam was on our side before that one.
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Reply #133 - Jun 7^th, 2014 at 12:30pm

Karnal wrote on Jun 7^th, 2014 at 11:18am:

True, Y. Saddam said the same about Kuwait in 1991.

Pity the UN chose to invade though. So unfair.

Saddam was on our side before that one.

Kuwait was a sovereign state when it was invaded by Saddam.

The West Bank was occupied by Jordan and was not a sovereign state when Israel occupied it after defeating the Arab attackers, including Jordan. Similarly, the Gaza Strip was an occupied territory held by Egypt but not part of Egypt.

Settlements on the Golan Heights and Sinai may have be regarded as illegal or contrary to international prohibitions because those area were part of a sovereign states, Syria and Egyp.
The Sinai has since been returned to Egypt. The Golan Heights, luckily, haven't been given back to Syria.

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Reply #134 - Jun 7^th, 2014 at 2:04pm

Soren wrote on Jun 7^th, 2014 at 12:30pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 7^th, 2014 at 11:18am:

True, Y. Saddam said the same about Kuwait in 1991.

Pity the UN chose to invade though. So unfair.

Saddam was on our side before that one.

Kuwait was a sovereign state when it was invaded by Saddam.

The West Bank was occupied by Jordan and was not a sovereign state when Israel occupied it after defeating the Arab attackers, including Jordan. Similarly, the Gaza Strip was an occupied territory held by Egypt but not part of Egypt.

Settlements on the Golan Heights and Sinai may have be regarded as illegal or contrary to international prohibitions because those area were part of a sovereign states, Syria and Egyp.
The Sinai has since been returned to Egypt. The Golan Heights, luckily, haven't been given back to Syria.

Luckily. But why would they? International law Does not exist.

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