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Karnal wrote on Feb 18 th, 2014 at 2:43pm: Yadda wrote on Feb 18 th, 2014 at 2:27pm: wally1 wrote on Feb 18 th, 2014 at 2:09pm:
You rave on about muslims killing jews and Christians, have you ever been to a muslim, confronted him to do what the verses tell him to do?
I have eaten in the home of a moslem. I have found moslems i have met, to be initially very, very courteous. I have found moslems to very courteous, up to a point. Up to the point of his cultures shame [shameful conduct]. http://thereligionofpeace.com/Google; islam, west, shame v guilt So you needed to Google islam, west, shame v guilt to find your initially very, very courteous hosts shameful. Excellent research, Y. Dealing with, interacting with moslem culture.... Dealing with angry, shamed moslems, it is the nature of the beast, K.Moslem culture teaches the individual to deny wrongdoing, as means of avoidance of shame, for wrongdoing. Where wrongdoing does take place, denial, is the common, cultural, response among moslems. By way of further explanation;not in the main JW article [below], but a posting as a comment, by, A_Nonny_Mouse | July 26, 2007 8:07 PM.... Quote:Shame vs. Guilt
The Western culture, is guilt based.
The Eastern culture is shame based.
For Easterners, everything is about image and how others see us.
The opposite of guilt is innocence.
If your ethos is guilt based, you have an inner police that stops you from doing wrong because doing wrong makes you feel guilty.
If your ethos is shame based, all you care is to preserve your image.
The opposite of shame is honor.
You can do wrong but as long as no one sees it, your image is not tarnished and you can still be seen as an honorable person. Google; the difference between shame, and guilt based culture, islam Quote:"How to Beat Jihad
....Shame vs. Guilt
Islamic cultures are shame based. Shame is a painful experience. To avoid shame you have to hide the source of shame. This means you must protect the image. Your entire self esteem and self worth depends on that image. When you are shamed you become violence. Violence is one way we humans deal with shame.....
.....The Western culture, is guilt based. The Eastern culture is shame based. For us Easterners, everything is about image and how others see us.
The opposite of guilt is innocence. If your ethos is guilt based, you have an inner police that stops you from doing wrong because doing wrong makes you feel guilty.
If your ethos is shame based, all you care is to preserve your image. The opposite of shame is honor. You can do wrong but as long as no one sees it, your image is not tarnished and you can still be seen as an honorable person. In a shame based culture, wrong and right have no meaning. It is all about shame and honor. If the stain of shame is removed, even if it means the murder of your own daughter, honor is restored. These are two very different worldviews. Unless we understand them we will not be able to make sense of Muslims and their minds."
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