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Re: Palestine - a nation with a prestigious history
Reply #15 - Feb 18th, 2014 at 3:21pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 2:43pm:
Yadda wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 2:27pm:
wally1 wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 2:09pm:

You rave on about muslims killing jews and Christians, have you ever been to a muslim, confronted him to do what the verses tell him to do?




I have eaten in the home of a moslem.



I have found moslems i have met, to be initially very, very courteous.

I have found moslems to very courteous, up to a point.

Up to the point of his cultures shame [shameful conduct].



THE RELIGION OF PEACE

http://thereligionofpeace.com/



Google;
islam, west, shame v guilt




So you needed to Google islam, west, shame v guilt
to find your initially very, very courteous  hosts shameful.

Excellent research, Y.



Muslims are nice to yadda by providing him a nice meal but there shameful.

What does he want from them, a happy ending?
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Re: Palestine - a nation with a prestigious history
Reply #16 - Feb 18th, 2014 at 3:54pm
 
wally1 wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 3:21pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 2:43pm:
Yadda wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 2:27pm:
wally1 wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 2:09pm:

You rave on about muslims killing jews and Christians, have you ever been to a muslim, confronted him to do what the verses tell him to do?




I have eaten in the home of a moslem.



I have found moslems i have met, to be initially very, very courteous.

I have found moslems to very courteous, up to a point.

Up to the point of his cultures shame [shameful conduct].



THE RELIGION OF PEACE

http://thereligionofpeace.com/



Google;
islam, west, shame v guilt




So you needed to Google islam, west, shame v guilt
to find your initially very, very courteous  hosts shameful.

Excellent research, Y.



Muslims are nice to yadda by providing him a nice meal but there shameful.

What does he want from them, a happy ending?


Maybe they tried to blow him up.
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Re: Palestine - a nation with a prestigious history
Reply #17 - Feb 18th, 2014 at 4:06pm
 
avoiding shame goes back to muhammad

allah's apostle was asleep under a palm tree when a slave saw him and stole his expensive cloak. In the morning muhammad was angry and his companions hunted down the thief and brought him to trial. When asked for an explanation, the slave said, "Yes, I did steal this cloak. I saw a man asleep under a tree, so I had sexual relations with him while he slept and then I took the cloak." muhammad immediately replied "That is not my cloak," and the thief went free. (the life and times of muhammad-by Ethopianjew)
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Re: Palestine - a nation with a prestigious history
Reply #18 - Feb 18th, 2014 at 5:03pm
 
moses wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 4:06pm:
avoiding shame goes back to muhammad

allah's apostle was asleep under a palm tree when a slave saw him and stole his expensive cloak. In the morning muhammad was angry and his companions hunted down the thief and brought him to trial. When asked for an explanation, the slave said, "Yes, I did steal this cloak. I saw a man asleep under a tree, so I had sexual relations with him while he slept and then I took the cloak." muhammad immediately replied "That is not my cloak," and the thief went free. (the life and times of muhammad-by Ethopianjew)



Typical Jew. Stealing and raping people.
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Re: Palestine - a nation with a prestigious history
Reply #19 - Feb 18th, 2014 at 5:04pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 3:54pm:
wally1 wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 3:21pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 2:43pm:
Yadda wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 2:27pm:
wally1 wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 2:09pm:

You rave on about muslims killing jews and Christians, have you ever been to a muslim, confronted him to do what the verses tell him to do?




I have eaten in the home of a moslem.



I have found moslems i have met, to be initially very, very courteous.

I have found moslems to very courteous, up to a point.

Up to the point of his cultures shame [shameful conduct].



THE RELIGION OF PEACE

http://thereligionofpeace.com/



Google;
islam, west, shame v guilt




So you needed to Google islam, west, shame v guilt
to find your initially very, very courteous  hosts shameful.

Excellent research, Y.



Muslims are nice to yadda by providing him a nice meal but there shameful.

What does he want from them, a happy ending?


Maybe they tried to blow him up.


Or there was nothing to blow?

Poor yadda. No wonder he is always angry.
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Re: Palestine - a nation with a prestigious history
Reply #20 - Feb 18th, 2014 at 5:46pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 2:43pm:
Yadda wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 2:27pm:
wally1 wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 2:09pm:

You rave on about muslims killing jews and Christians, have you ever been to a muslim, confronted him to do what the verses tell him to do?




I have eaten in the home of a moslem.



I have found moslems i have met, to be initially very, very courteous.

I have found moslems to very courteous, up to a point.

Up to the point of his cultures shame [shameful conduct].



THE RELIGION OF PEACE

http://thereligionofpeace.com/



Google;
islam, west, shame v guilt




So you needed to Google islam, west, shame v guilt
to find your initially very, very courteous  hosts shameful.

Excellent research, Y.




Dealing with, interacting with moslem culture....

Dealing with angry, shamed moslems, it is the nature of the beast, K.

Moslem culture teaches the individual to deny wrongdoing, as means of avoidance of shame, for wrongdoing.

Where wrongdoing does take place, denial, is the common, cultural, response among moslems.




By way of further explanation;



not in the main JW article [below],
but a posting as a comment, by,
A_Nonny_Mouse | July 26, 2007 8:07 PM
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Shame vs. Guilt

The Western culture, is guilt based.
The Eastern culture is shame based.
For Easterners, everything is about image and how others see us.
The opposite of guilt is innocence.

If your ethos is guilt based, you have an inner police that stops you from doing wrong because doing wrong makes you feel guilty.

If your ethos is shame based, all you care is to preserve your image.


The opposite of shame is honor.

You can do wrong but as long as no one sees it, your image is not tarnished and you can still be seen as an honorable person.



http://www.jihadwatch.org/2007/07/former-sydney-imam-who-produced-dvds-calling-f...






Google;
the difference between shame, and guilt based culture, islam


Quote:
"How to Beat Jihad

....Shame vs. Guilt
Islamic cultures are shame based. Shame is a painful experience. To avoid shame you have to hide the source of shame. This means you must protect the image. Your entire self esteem and self worth depends on that image. When you are shamed you become violence. Violence is one way we humans deal with shame.....
.....The Western culture, is guilt based.  The Eastern culture is shame based. For us Easterners, everything is about image and how others see us.
The opposite of guilt is innocence. If your ethos is guilt based, you have an inner police that stops you from doing wrong because doing wrong makes you feel guilty
If your ethos is shame based, all you care is to preserve your image. The opposite of shame is honor. You can do wrong but as long as no one sees it, your image is not tarnished and you can still be seen as an honorable person.  In a shame based culture, wrong and right have no meaning.  It is all about shame and honor.  If the stain of shame is removed, even if it means the murder of your own daughter, honor is restored.  These are two very different worldviews. Unless we understand them we will not be able to make sense of Muslims and their minds."



http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/sina70723.htm




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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31
 
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Re: Palestine - a nation with a prestigious history
Reply #21 - Feb 18th, 2014 at 5:54pm
 
wally1 wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 5:04pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 3:54pm:
wally1 wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 3:21pm:


Muslims are nice to yadda by providing him a nice meal but there shameful.

What does he want from them, a happy ending?


Maybe they tried to blow him up.


Or there was nothing to blow?

Poor yadda. No wonder he is always angry.




Poor wally1,
Poor Karnal,

Always shamed [by the character and nature of ISLAM, and by the reprehensible behaviour of many moslems],
always in denial, no wonder they are always angry.
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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31
 
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Reply #22 - Feb 19th, 2014 at 9:27pm
 
moses wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 4:06pm:
avoiding shame goes back to muhammad

allah's apostle was asleep under a palm tree when a slave saw him and stole his expensive cloak. In the morning muhammad was angry and his companions hunted down the thief and brought him to trial. When asked for an explanation, the slave said, "Yes, I did steal this cloak. I saw a man asleep under a tree, so I had sexual relations with him while he slept and then I took the cloak." muhammad immediately replied "That is not my cloak," and the thief went free. (the life and times of muhammad-by Ethopianjew)


Too funny. Is that online anywhere?
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Re: Palestine - a nation with a prestigious history
Reply #23 - Feb 19th, 2014 at 9:30pm
 
i dunno. Google it?

Surprised you would even care given your love for completely unsubstantiated claims presented as facts eh?
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Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 11:24pm:
Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act
 
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Reply #24 - Feb 19th, 2014 at 9:33pm
 
I tried googling it. I can find the first half (verse 4380) on a few sites. But none of them have verse 4381, for some reason.
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Reply #25 - Feb 19th, 2014 at 9:38pm
 
freediver wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 9:33pm:
I tried googling it. I can find the first half (verse 4380) on a few sites. But none of them have verse 4381, for some reason.


Better whack it in the Wiki, FD.

Exhibit 4381.
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Re: Palestine - a nation with a prestigious history
Reply #26 - Feb 19th, 2014 at 9:38pm
 
freediver wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 9:27pm:
moses wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 4:06pm:
avoiding shame goes back to muhammad

allah's apostle was asleep under a palm tree when a slave saw him and stole his expensive cloak. In the morning muhammad was angry and his companions hunted down the thief and brought him to trial. When asked for an explanation, the slave said, "Yes, I did steal this cloak. I saw a man asleep under a tree, so I had sexual relations with him while he slept and then I took the cloak." muhammad immediately replied "That is not my cloak," and the thief went free. (the life and times of muhammad-by Ethopianjew)


Too funny. Is that online anywhere?


I did google it and couldn't find it.

Moses do you have reference to it?
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Reply #27 - Feb 21st, 2014 at 4:02pm
 
Remember laughter kills the heart (muhammad said so) therefore it is not a joke no? It appears that Ethiopianjew's works were very humourous, so to save killing all the muslims hearts (with laughter), there has been a global sanction on his records. (for health reasons) I think
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Re: Palestine - a nation with a prestigious history
Reply #28 - Feb 22nd, 2014 at 11:10pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 9:38pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 9:33pm:
I tried googling it. I can find the first half (verse 4380) on a few sites. But none of them have verse 4381, for some reason.


Better whack it in the Wiki, FD.

Exhibit 4381.


It certainly meets the stringent evidential criteria of the wiki - namely some schmuck on ozpolitic posted it - and its found nowhere else in the world.
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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.
 
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Re: Palestine - a nation with a prestigious history
Reply #29 - Feb 22nd, 2014 at 11:17pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 22nd, 2014 at 11:10pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 9:38pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 9:33pm:
I tried googling it. I can find the first half (verse 4380) on a few sites. But none of them have verse 4381, for some reason.


Better whack it in the Wiki, FD.

Exhibit 4381.


It certainly meets the stringent evidential criteria of the wiki - namely some schmuck on ozpolitic posted it - and its found nowhere else in the world.




That is a little harsh, g.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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