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sir prince duke alevine Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23619 Gender:	Re: 1500+ died vs 1 death Reply #15 - Feb 18^th, 2014 at 1:45pm Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 1:45pm: Five seconds... .... tick tick tick tick tick tick .... What comes after five, Herb? Tell us! Tell us!
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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: 1500+ died vs 1 death Reply #16 - Feb 18^th, 2014 at 1:48pm One Million Dollars to tell us what the Indonesians called the passengers at their airports who had no documents of identification! Four seconds ... .... tick tick tick tick tick tick ....
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viewpoint Gold Member Offline A joke is a very serious thing. [Winston] Posts: 2209 Gender:	Re: 1500+ died vs 1 death Reply #17 - Feb 18^th, 2014 at 1:51pm Maybe he should phone-a-friend?
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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: 1500+ died vs 1 death Reply #18 - Feb 18^th, 2014 at 2:13pm viewpoint wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 1:51pm: Maybe he should phone-a-friend? .... tick tick tick tick tick tick .... Two seconds left, Greg ...
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Reply #19 - Feb 18^th, 2014 at 2:24pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 1:48pm:

One Million Dollars to tell us what the Indonesians called the passengers at their airports who had no documents of identification!

Four seconds ...

.... tick tick tick tick tick tick ....

and Indonesians also don't have a refugee framework.

We do.

Two million dollars to tell me what THAT means

Silly, silly.

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sir prince duke alevine Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23619 Gender:	Re: 1500+ died vs 1 death Reply #20 - Feb 18^th, 2014 at 2:29pm And don't worry, Herb. For you, I'll give ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD. I know that old brain of yours doesn't work very well, so by all means, take your time
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Sparky Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1338 Gender:	Re: 1500+ died vs 1 death Reply #21 - Feb 18^th, 2014 at 2:41pm I just want to know one thing- when are Abbott and the boys going to make a start on the deportations? Seeing that a fair portion of these country shoppers have committed criminal offences in detention it shouldn't be a problem.
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Reply #22 - Feb 18^th, 2014 at 2:41pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 2:24pm:

... and Indonesians also don't have a refugee framework.

That's not in the least bit relevant to this quiz for Greg ("Illegals"? Ha! Ha! Ha!) to answer.

When the planes land at Indonesian airports these people are fully documented and do not ask for political asylum from the Indonesians.

But if their papers are not in order, these jet-setters are frog-marched back onto the next departing planes as "xxxxxxxx".

Time's nearly run out, Greg ... For One Million Dollars ...

.... tick tick tick tick tick tick ....

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Reply #23 - Feb 18^th, 2014 at 2:45pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 2:41pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 2:24pm:

... and Indonesians also don't have a refugee framework.

That's not in the least bit relevant to this quiz for Greg ("Illegals"? Ha! Ha! Ha!) to answer.

When the planes land at Indonesian airports these people are fully documented and do not ask for political asylum from the Indonesians.

But if their papers are not in order, these jet-setters are frog-marched back onto the next departing planes as "xxxxxxxx".

Time's nearly run out, Greg ... For One Million Dollars ...

.... tick tick tick tick tick tick ....

Clearly you're not very smart. No one asks for political asylum from the Indonesians because Indonesia is not a signatory to the refugee convention and does NOT have a refugee framework.

So your argument is to what, be like Indonesia and not be a signatory to the refugee convention anymore? Is that your argument?

Seems to me your brain would be perfect for being a clock - it's about as much as you can do - tick tick tick Wink

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sir prince duke alevine Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23619 Gender:	Re: 1500+ died vs 1 death Reply #24 - Feb 18^th, 2014 at 2:46pm Sparky wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 2:41pm: I just want to know one thing- when are Abbott and the boys going to make a start on the deportations? Seeing that a fair portion of these country shoppers have committed criminal offences in detention it shouldn't be a problem. Typical Sparky, ignoring the cause.
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Reply #25 - Feb 18^th, 2014 at 2:53pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 2:46pm:

Sparky wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 2:41pm:

I just want to know one thing- when are Abbott and the boys going to make a start on the deportations? Seeing that a fair portion of these country shoppers have committed criminal offences in detention it shouldn't be a problem.

Typical Sparky, ignoring the cause.

There were only 4 boat people in detention when labor dismantled the Pacific solution.

Labor and the Greens are the cause of any deaths since the Pacific solution was dismantled.

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Reply #26 - Feb 18^th, 2014 at 2:56pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 1:24pm:

Um yeah, the 1 glaring point you miss is that the 1500 weren't under the care & protection of the Australian government.

No argument that's what they were trying to obtain but at the time of their deaths they were not, the "Smugglers" & boat captains were responsible for their health & "safety" NOT the AUSTRALIAN GOVERNMENT.

However this individual had secured the protection & care of our Government & it would seem we FAILED.

But don't let facts stop your rant.

I'm really interested in your comment. It brings to mind something I read in the paper last year. One migrant family was suing the Australian Govt (courtesy of legal aid) for pain and stress they suffered on the way out, while they were on the leaky boat.
I remember thinking it was a bit rich, as the aust govt didn't ask them to come, never encouraged them to come, didn't even know they were coming at that stage, it was their personal decision.

Yet like so many things nowadays, they were trying to get money out of the taxpayer.
I don't know how the case ended or even if it has ended.
But they were definitely trying to establish that the Aust govt was responsible for their health and safety even while on those boats.

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St George of the Garden Gold Member Offline http://tinyurl.com/n 3o8m2x Posts: 9809 Gender:	Re: 1500+ died vs 1 death Reply #27 - Feb 18^th, 2014 at 2:58pm Then there were the three ASs drowned in Indo waters in one of our orange lifeboats. Of course, we tried to set up a Malayasian Regional Processing Centre but Libs and Greens wanted BOATS to be an election issue. I have said this several times—have not kept quiet about it.
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Reply #28 - Feb 18^th, 2014 at 3:00pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 2:53pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 2:46pm:

Sparky wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 2:41pm:

I just want to know one thing- when are Abbott and the boys going to make a start on the deportations? Seeing that a fair portion of these country shoppers have committed criminal offences in detention it shouldn't be a problem.

Typical Sparky, ignoring the cause.

There were only 4 boat people in detention when labor dismantled the Pacific solution.

Labor and the Greens are the cause of any deaths since the Pacific solution was dismantled.

Uh no, this death, and all the deaths that have resulted in our refusal to accept our obligations under the refugee convention, are the direct result of ALL GOVERNMENT POLICY since 2001.

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Reply #29 - Feb 18^th, 2014 at 3:07pm

sherri wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 2:56pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 1:24pm:

Um yeah, the 1 glaring point you miss is that the 1500 weren't under the care & protection of the Australian government.

No argument that's what they were trying to obtain but at the time of their deaths they were not, the "Smugglers" & boat captains were responsible for their health & "safety" NOT the AUSTRALIAN GOVERNMENT.

However this individual had secured the protection & care of our Government & it would seem we FAILED.

But don't let facts stop your rant.

I'm really interested in your comment. It brings to mind something I read in the paper last year. One migrant family was suing the Australian Govt (courtesy of legal aid) for pain and stress they suffered on the way out, while they were on the leaky boat.
I remember thinking it was a bit rich, as the aust govt didn't ask them to come, never encouraged them to come, didn't even know they were coming at that stage, it was their personal decision.

Yet like so many things nowadays, they were trying to get money out of the taxpayer.
I don't know how the case ended or even if it has ended.
But they were definitely trying to establish that the Aust govt was responsible for their health and safety even while on those boats.

I haven't heard this, I'd be interested in reading the article. Can you link?

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