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Reply #60 - Feb 18^th, 2014 at 3:44pm

cods wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 3:41pm:

WHO encouraged them here in the first place???

WHO sent them to MANUS in the first place...?

WHO did a shonky deal with PNG in the first place..???

Who has kept that policy?
Who has sent more to MANUS? And continues to send people to Manus?
Who wants to salvage as much as possible of that shonky deal?

Tsk tsk, cods. Partisanship really blinds you.

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Reply #61 - Feb 18^th, 2014 at 3:45pm

sherri wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 2:56pm:

But they were definitely trying to establish that the Aust govt was responsible for their health and safety even while on those boats.

Let's be very clear on one thing: Any such petition against the government would have been wholly at the gratuitous urgings and coaching of pro bono Leftwing lawyers and their many little helpers ~ not the least of whom would be relatives and friends already living here in Australia, and savvy smartalecs from their Muslim community.

In the fullness of time these people will be sniffed out and dealt with for their treachery.

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Reply #62 - Feb 18^th, 2014 at 3:46pm

cods wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 3:44pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 3:32pm:

The refugee convention was set up as a result of 1000's of Jews being returned to the Nazi's in the 30's.

Funny isn't, that several of those that scream illegal the loudest are also the 1st to cry foul if anyone criticizes Israel.

Irony?

thats a bit of history I hadnt heard before.. who returned them.. just one country??.. were they German jews??..

what year was it if it was the NAZI"'s

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS_St._Louis

ONE EXAMPLE.

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Reply #63 - Feb 18^th, 2014 at 3:46pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 3:45pm:

sherri wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 2:56pm:

But they were definitely trying to establish that the Aust govt was responsible for their health and safety even while on those boats.

Let's be very clear on one thing: Any such petition against the government would have been wholly at the gratuitous urgings and coaching of pro bono Leftwing lawyers and their many little helpers ~ not the least of whom would be relatives and friends already living here in Australia, and savvy smartalecs from their Muslim community.

In the fullness of time these people will be sniffed out and dealt with for their treachery.

tick tick tick?

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Reply #64 - Feb 18^th, 2014 at 3:51pm

adelcrow wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 3:31pm:

Morrison has proven himself to be a cold, cruel and calculating liar so until there is an independent investigation into this appalling abuse of human rights no one can believe a thing that comes from this hard line government.

What an incredible rat's nest of traitors we have here on this forum. After 8 years on the Net I shouldn't be surprised, but I continue to wonder where you people learnt it's wrong to have any kind of protective and defensive attitude for preserving the sort of society your fathers and grandfathers fought and died for.

You people really are a damned disgrace.

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Reply #65 - Feb 18^th, 2014 at 3:51pm

Sparky wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 3:38pm:

Many? How many, is many?

Most. When they look into their cases and realise that this dude was a plumber from Pakistan with some made up BS about a crime gang coming after him OR this Lebanese dude just wanted to meet up with family in Lakemba it will sure thin out the ranks. You do have to have some proof to your claims you know. Old wars don't cut it either.
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Yes, you have to have proof of claims.

And between 70% and 97% were proven to be genuine refugees.

The plumbers from Pakistan (although your job doesn't automatically disqualify you from being an asylum seeker, nor the country of origin) were already being sent back. The Lebanese dude (again origin doesn't disqualify) who just wanted to meet up with family in Lakemba also was deported.

So what makes you think that this number will somehow decrease now that the merry band of imbeciles is in charge?

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Reply #66 - Feb 18^th, 2014 at 3:52pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 3:51pm:

adelcrow wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 3:31pm:

Morrison has proven himself to be a cold, cruel and calculating liar so until there is an independent investigation into this appalling abuse of human rights no one can believe a thing that comes from this hard line government.

What an incredible rat's nest of traitors we have here on this forum. After 8 years on the Net I shouldn't be surprised, but I continue to wonder where you people learnt it's wrong to have any kind of protective and defensive attitude for preserving the sort of society your fathers and grandfathers fought and died for.

You people really are a damned disgrace.

we are trying to preserve a society that people fought for. Thats why we are against imbeciles like you

tick tick tick?

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Reply #67 - Feb 18^th, 2014 at 3:53pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 3:51pm:

adelcrow wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 3:31pm:

Morrison has proven himself to be a cold, cruel and calculating liar so until there is an independent investigation into this appalling abuse of human rights no one can believe a thing that comes from this hard line government.

What an incredible rat's nest of traitors we have here on this forum. After 8 years on the Net I shouldn't be surprised, but I continue to wonder where you people learnt it's wrong to have any kind of protective and defensive attitude for preserving the sort of society your fathers and grandfathers fought and died for.

You people really are a damned disgrace.

That's a great post. It's because they don't like us.

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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: 1500+ died vs 1 death Reply #68 - Feb 18^th, 2014 at 3:54pm Like imprisoning refugees in a mosquito infested hell hole surrounded by PNG thugs and rapists wasn't going to create problems. Hey...Abbott decided to use the world wide movement of refugees as a political weapon so he is responsible for every death and injury that occurs at offshore refugee prisons.
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Reply #69 - Feb 18^th, 2014 at 3:59pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 3:51pm:

Sparky wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 3:38pm:

Many? How many, is many?

Most. When they look into their cases and realise that this dude was a plumber from Pakistan with some made up BS about a crime gang coming after him OR this Lebanese dude just wanted to meet up with family in Lakemba it will sure thin out the ranks. You do have to have some proof to your claims you know. Old wars don't cut it either.

Yes, you have to have proof of claims.

And between 70% and 97% were proven to be genuine refugees.

The plumbers from Pakistan (although your job doesn't automatically disqualify you from being an asylum seeker, nor the country of origin) were already being sent back. The Lebanese dude (again origin doesn't disqualify) who just wanted to meet up with family in Lakemba also was deported.

So what makes you think that this number will somehow decrease now that the merry band of imbeciles is in charge? [/quote]It will decrease because the people in charge have a different idea of what an asylum seeker is. A party of Sarah Hanson Young types with a network of bleeding heart legal slimeballs making a killing will surely give anybody a 90% figure.

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Reply #70 - Feb 18^th, 2014 at 3:59pm

cods wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 3:44pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 3:32pm:

The refugee convention was set up as a result of 1000's of Jews being returned to the Nazi's in the 30's.

Funny isn't, that several of those that scream illegal the loudest are also the 1st to cry foul if anyone criticizes Israel.

Irony?

thats a bit of history I hadnt heard before.. who returned them.. just one country??.. were they German jews??..

what year was it if it was the NAZI"'s

"None are as blind as those who refuse to see" eh Cods

Quote:

Horrific events in the year 1938 caused a dramatic increase in Jewish emigration from Nazi Germany. The Anschluss—the annexation of Austria in March; a sharp jump in personal assaults on Jews during the spring and summer; the nationwide Kristallnacht (Night of Broken Glass) pogrom in November; and the subsequent seizure of Jewish assets caused a flood of visas applications.

Approximately 36,000 Jews left Germany and Austria in 1938, and 77,000 in 1939. This outflow created a major refugee crisis. Summoned by the US in 1938, 32 countries met in Evian, France ostensibly to address the problem. However, little was offered by the conference except excuses for not accepting the desperate German and Austrian refugees. Furthermore, the gathering’s scope was limited to the two offending countries despite the fact that throughout east central Europe the situation facing the Jewish population was rapidly becoming untenable.

The Roosevelt administration claimed it was restricted by its quota system. Britain, Canada, Belgium, the Netherlands, Switzerland and others argued that high unemployment levels prevented absorption of refugees. Brazil, Argentina, Bolivia, Mexico and Peru were among the countries that stated their unwillingness to accept any more “non-Aryan” immigrants.

Australia’s representative hypocritically declared: “It will no doubt be appreciated that as we have no real racial problem, we are not desirous of importing one by encouraging any scheme of large scale migration.”

Suggested viewing - Shanghai Ghetto, a feature-length documentary,

The more things change the more they stay the same Undecided

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Reply #71 - Feb 18^th, 2014 at 4:00pm

Sparky wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 3:59pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 3:51pm:

Sparky wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 3:38pm:

Many? How many, is many?

Most. When they look into their cases and realise that this dude was a plumber from Pakistan with some made up BS about a crime gang coming after him OR this Lebanese dude just wanted to meet up with family in Lakemba it will sure thin out the ranks. You do have to have some proof to your claims you know. Old wars don't cut it either.

Yes, you have to have proof of claims.

And between 70% and 97% were proven to be genuine refugees.

The plumbers from Pakistan (although your job doesn't automatically disqualify you from being an asylum seeker, nor the country of origin) were already being sent back. The Lebanese dude (again origin doesn't disqualify) who just wanted to meet up with family in Lakemba also was deported.

So what makes you think that this number will somehow decrease now that the merry band of imbeciles is in charge?

It will decrease because the people in charge have a different idea of what an asylum seeker is. A party of Sarah Hanson Young types with a network of bleeding heart legal slimeballs making a killing will surely give anybody a 90% figure.
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Actually the definition of what an asylum seeker is hasn't, and will not, change, with this government. Because these claims are assessed under the refugee convention, which the government has no control over.

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Reply #72 - Feb 18^th, 2014 at 4:01pm

Sparky wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 3:53pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 3:51pm:

adelcrow wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 3:31pm:

Morrison has proven himself to be a cold, cruel and calculating liar so until there is an independent investigation into this appalling abuse of human rights no one can believe a thing that comes from this hard line government.

What an incredible rat's nest of traitors we have here on this forum. After 8 years on the Net I shouldn't be surprised, but I continue to wonder where you people learnt it's wrong to have any kind of protective and defensive attitude for preserving the sort of society your fathers and grandfathers fought and died for.

You people really are a damned disgrace.

That's a great post. It's because they don't like us.

If I had the money I would personally finance a Royal Commission into the leftwing thinking that has taken over the mindset of so many of our gen-x and gen-y post-war offspring.

Someone has been poisoning the well. Someone has been disseminating the idea that Australia is a grab-bag free-for-all for people of whatever cultural and religious background who want to come swanning in and crowding out the locals in their own generational suburbs.

The main culprits in my opinion?

Schools ... universities ... leftwing television and print media.

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Reply #73 - Feb 18^th, 2014 at 4:02pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 4:01pm:

Sparky wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 3:53pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 3:51pm:

adelcrow wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 3:31pm:

Morrison has proven himself to be a cold, cruel and calculating liar so until there is an independent investigation into this appalling abuse of human rights no one can believe a thing that comes from this hard line government.

What an incredible rat's nest of traitors we have here on this forum. After 8 years on the Net I shouldn't be surprised, but I continue to wonder where you people learnt it's wrong to have any kind of protective and defensive attitude for preserving the sort of society your fathers and grandfathers fought and died for.

You people really are a damned disgrace.

That's a great post. It's because they don't like us.

If I had the money I would personally finance a Royal Commission into the leftwing thinking that has taken over the mindset of so many of our gen-x and gen-y post-war offspring.

Someone has been poisoning the well. Someone has been disseminating the idea that Australia is a grab-bag free-for-all for people of whatever cultural and religious background who wants to come swanning in and crowding out the locals in their own generational suburbs.

The main culprits in my opinion?

School ... universities ... leftwing television and print media.

tick tick tick BOOM.

Cheesy

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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: 1500+ died vs 1 death Reply #74 - Feb 18^th, 2014 at 4:06pm sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 4:02pm: tick tick tick BOOM. Funny you should say that. Question: Which Australian party initiated the opening up of Muslim immigration to Australia? 'tick tick tick BOOM' indeed.
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