Forum

 
  Back to OzPolitic.com   Welcome, Guest. Please Login or Register
  Forum Home Album HelpSearch Recent Rules LoginRegister  
 

Pages: 1 2 3 ... 7
Send Topic Print
Should Morrison resign (Read 4889 times)
John S
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Fascist Party = Liberal
Party

Posts: 3691
Gender: male
Should Morrison resign
Feb 19th, 2014 at 9:53am
 
In a functioning democracy, Immigration Minister Scott Morrison would resign over the Manus Island riot. This is a low point in a decade-long campaign of dehumanisation, writes Ben Eltham

It’s always depressing to say, “I told you so”. Not every prediction is accurate, and even an accurate warning can sometimes be ignored for the best of reasons. But when things go wrong it is necessary to ask why, and to remind ourselves that it didn’t have to be this way.

That’s the situation Australia finds itself in this morning, as we wake up to the brutal reality of our immigration policies.

After two consecutive nights of rioting in and around the Manus Island detention centre in Papua New Guinea, one man is dead, 77 are injured, and Australia’s policy of sending innocent people seeking asylum to concentration camps in neighbouring countries is in tatters. NM editor Marni Cordell is covering the story as it unfolds.

When local Manus Islanders are sufficiently angry about the concentration camp in the middle of their home island to go on a violent rampage – breaking into the camp and attacking the inmates, reportedly aided by police – it’s plain that the future of the Manus Island centre is untenable.

When asylum seekers waiting to be processed can actually be killed, it’s plain that Australia has failed in its most basic obligations to care for those under our charge. And the government continues to hide behind a cloak of “operational security”.

It’s possible to construct a kind of utilitarian calculus to defend such a policy: one that argues that even a death and many injuries in such a scenario can be balanced by the many lives of those who no longer travel to Australia in leaky boats, lives saved by tougher deterrence.

That, roughly, is one half of the argument the government mounts on border protection – the other half being that border protection is something the Australian nation has a sovereign right to decide.

But the sad truth is such utilitarian equations can’t really be calculated with precision. We just don’t have the information. Owing to the veil of silence that has descended on border security policy, we don’t actually know how many boats have been turned back. We don’t know how many boats have sunk, undetected. We don’t know whether the monsoon is providing the real deterrent. All we know is that no boats have recently “arrived” – in other words, evaded the Navy and Customs.

Anyone arguing that tougher measures are saving lives is simply guessing. There is no data to support the claim. The data the government is releasing is incomplete and unreliable.

On the other hand, we know an awful lot about conditions on Manus Island. We know, though a Freedom of Information request by Guardian Australia, that there were 110 “incidents” on Manus in just four months last year.

We know that detention imposes crippling mental health impacts on those locked up in limbo. We know that the jail on Manus is manifestly inadequate, with substandard accommodation, sanitation and water supplies.

We know that the Australian government has set lower standards for Manus than for detention centres on Australian soil. We know that the firm contracted to manage and run the centre, G4S, has a notorious record for lax safety regimes and rampant profiteering.



continue
Back to top
 

'The worst Labor Government is always better then the best Liberal government for Australians workers'
WWW  
IP Logged
 
John S
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Fascist Party = Liberal
Party

Posts: 3691
Gender: male
Re: Should Morrison resign
Reply #1 - Feb 19th, 2014 at 9:53am
 
We also know that building a multi-million dollar facility in the middle of impoverished Papua New Guinea was a recipe for local resentment and unrest. As one source told NM this morning:

“They’re really against the centre, they don’t understand what it is, they just see millions and millions of dollars being spent feeding and housing these people, and bringing all these people in to work just to house them. They just see all this money coming in.”


And today we know that know that one person has been murdered, and 77 more injured, under the Australian government’s care.

Informed observers have been warning of such a catastrophe for months. All the evidence was clear. Academic Kristian Lasslett warned in a series of articles on NM last year of the complexities of resettling asylum seekers in PNG.

“Approximately 85 per cent of Papua New Guineans live in rural areas,” Lasslett pointed out. “Their access to land – which is essential to livelihoods – is assured through a customary system of tenure that is organised along kinship lines. Land ownership in rural areas will thus be barred to refugees, because they have no connection with indigenous clans and lineages so vital to rural life in PNG.”

The fact that Manus Island locals disapproved of the detention centre was no secret. Back in July, the ABC’s Liam Fox travelled to the island and reported on local reactions to the facility. A local priest, Dominic Maka, told him that there would be big social impacts, but that locals hadn’t been properly consulted.

“There will be lots of moral impact too,” Maka said. “That all these thing we haven't given a chance to talk about.” In September, there was a protest against the Manus facility by local landowners. Manus elder George Lokowah told Fox that the priority should be development, not a foreign prison. “We need development like health, education, roads. That's what we need,” he said.

Offshore processing has failed. Just as many said it would. It is only popular because of the long and successful campaign of dehumanisation and demonisation mounted against asylum seekers on the basis of their hope for a better life.

How much longer will this border protection madness continue? Under Abbott and Morrison, the policy has already severely damaged Australia’s relationship with Indonesia. It is now destabilising our relationship with Papua New Guinea. And a man has been killed while under our protection.

In any kind of functioning democracy, Immigration Minister Scott Morrison would now resign. As the minister in charge of this evil charade, under Westminster conventions he is ultimately the person who needs to take responsibility. This is the course of action that the Coalition demanded of Labor’s Peter Garrett when four insulation installers – in the private sector, mind you, with no direct chain of command to the minister – died in 2009.

Of course, Morrison won’t resign. He has already demonstrated a surpassing moral flexibility when it comes to manipulating public sentiment for political gain. And even the refugee lobby recognises that harsh measures against asylum seekers are popular in the community. Such are the dark consequences of a decade-long campaign of dehumanisation, against innocent people, for the benefit of politicians and shock jocks.



https://newmatilda.com/2014/02/18/how-much-longer-will-madness-continue
Back to top
 

'The worst Labor Government is always better then the best Liberal government for Australians workers'
WWW  
IP Logged
 
Grendel
Gold Member
*****
Offline


OzPolitic

Posts: 28080
Gender: male
Re: Should Morrison resign
Reply #2 - Feb 19th, 2014 at 9:55am
 
Why should he resign he'll probably be our next PM.

Ouch! That's gotta hurt... Grin Grin Grin
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
St George of the Garden
Gold Member
*****
Offline


http://tinyurl.com/n
3o8m2x

Posts: 9809
Gender: male
Re: Should Morrison resign
Reply #3 - Feb 19th, 2014 at 9:55am
 
...
Back to top
 

I want Muso as GMod. Bring back Muso!
WWW Friends of the National Broadband Network  
IP Logged
 
Rider
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 2669
OnTheRoad
Gender: male
Re: Should Morrison resign
Reply #4 - Feb 19th, 2014 at 9:56am
 
Resign.....hahahahaha...

his portfolio should be expanded to include -

- communication
- public service
- climate change
- education
- health
- etc etc
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
John S
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Fascist Party = Liberal
Party

Posts: 3691
Gender: male
Re: Should Morrison resign
Reply #5 - Feb 19th, 2014 at 9:59am
 
...
Back to top
 

'The worst Labor Government is always better then the best Liberal government for Australians workers'
WWW  
IP Logged
 
viewpoint
Gold Member
*****
Offline


A joke is a very serious
thing. [Winston]

Posts: 2209
Gender: male
Re: Should Morrison resign
Reply #6 - Feb 19th, 2014 at 10:22am
 
John S wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 9:59am:



Great job Scott, keep on doing what you're doing.........
Back to top
 

Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
- Sir Winston Churchill
 
IP Logged
 
St George of the Garden
Gold Member
*****
Offline


http://tinyurl.com/n
3o8m2x

Posts: 9809
Gender: male
Re: Should Morrison resign
Reply #7 - Feb 19th, 2014 at 10:26am
 
There have been enough warnings about conditions on Manus Isl, and as Australians trained the PNG police involved the Minister should have known that there would be riots.

So the death of one detainee is on his hands and he should resign.
Back to top
 

I want Muso as GMod. Bring back Muso!
WWW Friends of the National Broadband Network  
IP Logged
 
bogarde73
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Anti-Global & Contra Mundum

Posts: 18443
Gender: male
Re: Should Morrison resign
Reply #8 - Feb 19th, 2014 at 10:27am
 
In a functioning democracy the people get what they voted for.
Only the delusional could suggest that "stop the boats" was not A key focus of the Abbott/Morrison election campaign if not THE focus.
Ergo, we have a functioning democracy because tha's what the people have got.
To suggest in the light of this that Morrison should resign is pissing in the wind.
Watch out there O Wise One.
Back to top
 

Know the enemies of a civil society by their public behaviour, by their fraudulent claim to be liberal-progressive, by their propensity to lie and, above all, by their attachment to authoritarianism.
 
IP Logged
 
St George of the Garden
Gold Member
*****
Offline


http://tinyurl.com/n
3o8m2x

Posts: 9809
Gender: male
Re: Should Morrison resign
Reply #9 - Feb 19th, 2014 at 10:29am
 
The death of the detainee is down to Morrison.
Back to top
 

I want Muso as GMod. Bring back Muso!
WWW Friends of the National Broadband Network  
IP Logged
 
cods
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 88048
Re: Should Morrison resign
Reply #10 - Feb 19th, 2014 at 10:30am
 
just about everyone on Manus is there thanks to krudd mark 11... it was his idea his plan we talked ONeil into signing up......he is the one that is fully responsible... lets see him stand up and take ownership.?????>?.. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
St George of the Garden
Gold Member
*****
Offline


http://tinyurl.com/n
3o8m2x

Posts: 9809
Gender: male
Re: Should Morrison resign
Reply #11 - Feb 19th, 2014 at 10:34am
 
Nope—the Libs are running the show now.
Back to top
 

I want Muso as GMod. Bring back Muso!
WWW Friends of the National Broadband Network  
IP Logged
 
bogarde73
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Anti-Global & Contra Mundum

Posts: 18443
Gender: male
Re: Should Morrison resign
Reply #12 - Feb 19th, 2014 at 10:34am
 
Watch this space for signs of dripping tears.
Back to top
 

Know the enemies of a civil society by their public behaviour, by their fraudulent claim to be liberal-progressive, by their propensity to lie and, above all, by their attachment to authoritarianism.
 
IP Logged
 
John Smith
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 75183
Gender: male
Re: Should Morrison resign
Reply #13 - Feb 19th, 2014 at 10:40am
 
Will Morrison be charged?

As they are detained by the Australian govt, the govt. has a duty of care to provide a safe place for them whilst their claims are being processed  .. it has failed to provide that and now people are being killed.

According to reports I've seen, Australian security officers were the first to run away as soon as rumours of trouble started, leaving defenceless asylum seekers locked up with no way to run or defend themselves ..

this is a deplorable situation and Abbott needs to step up to the plate and put an end to it one way or the other.
Back to top
 

Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.
 
IP Logged
 
Innocent bystander
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 4220
Gender: male
Re: Should Morrison resign
Reply #14 - Feb 19th, 2014 at 10:41am
 
The lefts plan to turn Australia into a retirement village for middle eastern bludgers is in tatters thanks to Morrison, no wonder the smacking losers hate him  Grin Grin Grin
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
Pages: 1 2 3 ... 7
Send Topic Print