Yadda wrote on Feb 20^th, 2014 at 10:27pm:


More importantly, Islam is an

anti

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religion

violent cult. THE false prophet Muhammad filled his followers with complete resolve to DISbelieve the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel, to REJECT the shed blood that Jesus shed for us all, and DENY and blaspheme the Son of God.
Islam is a cult that is to the Gospel, as the negative is to a photograph.
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/index.htm

Thus their "worship" is in DISbelief, REJECTION and DENIAL. Islam is the opposite of belief. Islam is specifically ANTICHRIST. Besides being about what NOT to believe, Islam is about imperialistic conquest, slaughter and subjugation of non-Muslims.
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1391788854

That's why followers of the false prophet Muhammad are murdering Christians all around the world.
Regardless of what Muhammad's followers have been fooled into believing they believe, since Islam is an imperialistic, violent, ANTI-religion, Islam is in actuality no more of a religion than the Mafia. Perhaps the main difference being that the Mafia prefers not to murder people because it can cause them difficulties, whereas many of Muhammad's followers are eager to conquer and/or slaughter non-Muslims, simply for believing differently than themselves.
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/muslim_persecution_of_christians.htm

But I suppose that's just the way it should be, since the kingdoms of this world have been Satan's legal possession ever since Adam's fall. That's why the children of the flesh lust after control of these kingdoms, and temporal things of this world as Yadda pointed out.

Islam is not just some other religion, like Hinduism.

Islam should be outlawed for hate inspired commands for violence against others.

Sahih Muslim B41, #6981 Ibn 'Umar reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: You will fight against the jews and you will kill them until even a stone would say: Come here, Muslim, there is a Jew (hiding himself behind me); kill him.
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/islam_and_jews.htm

It should be treated no differently by free nations, than any other imperialistic power out to conquer nations, and subjugate citizens. Islam should be treated as an enemy of freedom, liberty and the right to self determination that it has been for 1400 years:
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/jihad_islamic_terrorism.htm

Yadda wrote on Feb 20^th, 2014 at 10:41pm:


You keep using the same argument, despite the fact you know that it the actions you were describing were denounced by the Australian Muslim community.  There really isn't two ways about it, you are misrepresenting what actually happened.

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No government demands a heart smart logo on all imported beef. Anyone could set up a halal certification organisation. The barriers to trade are erected by foreign governments only accepting certification by certain companies, then setting up regional monopolies for those companies. Even the Muslims were complaining about this.

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Free market capitalism. Or maybe you just don't know what a rort the whole halal sticker industry is.

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Sure. They publish the money trail to terrorist organisations on their website.

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The government is, by restricting imports. By probably have similar restrictions on internal producers.

Both of you, please check the article I linked to on the previous page. It makes it pretty obvious what is going on. Foreign governments are creating trade barriers in order to effectively establishing communist micro-economies within our borders. The money disappears into a black hole.

FD should be applauding this episode as a great example of how capitalism can work:

- MUI attempt to extract exorbitant fees from abattoirs to export to Indonesia
- Nearly all the abattoirs respond by boycotting MUI
- Queensland exporters are exploring other options - ie alternative markets that MUI won't benefit from
- MUI will either be out of business in Australia, or will be forced to offer more reasonable fees.

Textbook example of how capitalism is supposed to work.
- MUI shoots themselves in the foot by losing virtually all the Queensland market

freediver wrote on Feb 21^st, 2014 at 7:34pm:


According to your article - yes:

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freediver wrote on Feb 21^st, 2014 at 9:08pm:


Simply that Party A enters into a trade agreement with Party B, who gets too greedy and thinks the agreement gives them carte blanche to extort as much as they want from Party A. Party A simply walks away from the agreement since it is not a mutually profitable agreement, and in a competitive market, seeks out a more reasonable trading partner. Party B loses out because until they back down and offer more reasonable terms, they end up out of business.

The point being that, in accordance to classical free market theory, the market will create its own equilibrium - that there is no room for exploiters, and only mutually beneficial trade agreements will work.

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2014 at 5:01am:


lillydale chicken is halal which they sell at coles. There may be bits and pieces of steggles which woolies sells that is halal, but we just stick with lillydale. There are lots of pre-cooked packaged meat that both sell - eg those suncorp instant rice meals (both red and white meat).

I've never shopped at IGA for meat, there's more than enough at coles.

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 21^st, 2014 at 10:06pm:


Wrong. Party A was in a trade agreement with party C. Party B was just extorting money from it.

It is not a "textbook example of how capitalism is supposed to work" when businesses are forced out of a market (the one market they are in) by government intervention - particularly when that government intervention is to create regional monopolies who do not actually do anything other than extort as much money as they can from the people who actually make things. Only someone who is completely ignorant of concepts like capitalism would make such a stupid claim.

Capitalism is not merely an equilibrium between people trying to get the job done and the government (a foreign one) trying to get in their way.

Perhaps you meant it is a textbook example of how a shariah economy is supposed to work, and you are doing to typical Muslim thing of trying to pretend there is not conflict between that and western standards.