Not a new story but a new book is out by Annie Jacobs (?) which details the secret operation to transfer the best of the Nazi scientists to the US after the war.
The man who invented the ear thermometer was a Nazi doctor who worked in the camps. When he died at age 90 he got a glowing obituary in the NY Times.
Werner von Braun was celebrated for his work in designing the rockets which took the astronauts to the moon. He was also in the SS and had personally selected workers from Buchenwald to work at the V1/V2 rocket sites.
The chemical weapons which are being removed now from Syria were developed in the US by Nazi chemists.

It's all very interesting.

it_is_the_light wrote on Feb 19^th, 2014 at 6:20pm:


Name me one scientist in Operation Paperclip whos been arrested

oops unless Operation Paperclip is the title of the book..

it_is_the_light wrote on Feb 20^th, 2014 at 9:57am:


So, that means that like the 'mass freemason arrests' and the arrest warrant for the Pope, this hasn't happened either, and none of the Paperclip scientists have been arrested but you dream that will happen??

I think , from memory, Bayer, a very large pharma, also made zyclon B.

It would be interesting to know if, from an ethical POV, the research done in the camps by the doctors was destroyed, or is , in fact, available for use

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 20^th, 2014 at 10:35am:


Think of it as a superposition of uncertain possibilities which allow enough flexibility whereby the best possible outcomes for any variables you may consider, may come to pass simultaneously as you consider the bigger picture and reforge it through the crucible of your being.

Your empathy for the victims of 'bad things' will ensure you reach the limits of your tolerance of what is acceptable in your reality and your fear can turn to love as you realise through this flexibility, a way for each variable to be upheld in the most positive light.

It may not necessarily be like that for you, free will is part of that flexibility, but I think that's a rough blueprint by which each of us may contribute our best wishes for the improvements to the overall narrative. Isn't it a more pleasing story when everyone gets the happiest of endings?

bogarde73 wrote on Feb 19^th, 2014 at 3:06pm:


I can remember reading a while ago about many of the scientists being transferred. not in that particular book, obviously, but in some other article.
I suppose it depends on what the individual scientists did during the war. If they were personally into torture or sadistic experiments then they should have  stood trial as far as I am concerned.
But if they simply got on with working for the Nazis, even on weapons or whatever, then you can't blame the US for wanting  their expertise. The Nazi era was a blot on the human landscape but there is no denying that a lot of the German scientists were gifted people.

You know, I think the Germans were very lucky the war in Europe ended when it did actually, as another few weeks and the Americans would have been ready with their atomic bombs. And they would have used it too.

I doubt many scientists from ww2, or anyone in any important positions anyway, would be alive any more. My dad was in the navy, he was only 19 when the war ended, but he would be turning 89 this year, had he still been alive. That generation is almost gone. Within our lifetime there may be no one left who has any personal memory of the second world war.

Winston Smith wrote on Feb 20^th, 2014 at 11:06am:


So, I take it that you enjoy happy endings?