Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 20^th, 2014 at 9:07am:


Whats wrong with a co contribution of  single digit dollars
for those not on a health care card eg  [,  teachers, GINA,
Clive , Public Service,  simple !

Bam wrote on Feb 20^th, 2014 at 9:20am:


So what does it mean  SA 

Bam wrote on Feb 20^th, 2014 at 9:01am:


Yes it is.

Bam wrote on Feb 20^th, 2014 at 9:01am:


You'll have to expand on ''self-funded retirees are kept out of the taxation system'' ?

My sis is a self funded retiree but she still pays lots of tax.

Bam wrote on Feb 20^th, 2014 at 9:01am:


You'll need to elaborate there.  If you are again referring to self funded retirees I think you will find that they (most) are privately health insured and /or pay for their treatment outright.  Yes they can see a doctor for free but they also continue to pay the medicare levy.

The largest consumers of the health care budget by far would be the unfunded retirees.  Some see GPs every other day, it goes with the territory.  Obviously they couldn't afford multiple co-payments so anyone in this category would be subsidised much in the way prescriptions are now.  Over a certain amount of GP visits in a timeframe would be exempt.

Bam wrote on Feb 20^th, 2014 at 9:01am:


You were doing well up to now but the stupid politics of envy had to emerge eventually I guess.

ANY additional revenue to the Govt has to improve sustainability for ANY Govt service.

Whilst we have a flawed democracy the so-called rich will always pay the lion's share of the cost of Govt services.  The down trodden pay just about effall and will ride on the backs.  That just goes with the territory.

Bam wrote on Feb 20^th, 2014 at 9:01am:


You think that is sensible?  I for one would drop any plans for being self funded.  I'll spend up now and ride on the tax-payers back when (if) I make it to old age....

Mind you the Tax-payer's back will likely be broken by then with all you lefties jumping on it....

Bam wrote on Feb 20^th, 2014 at 9:01am:


This is where you Truebelivers fall down.

You need to recognise a simple fact.  If you incentivise something you get more of it and if you penalise something you get less of it.

Tax is a penalty.  Start taxing superannuation at the 'normal' rate and there will be less superannuation which will only COST the Govt.

Tax investment and you will get less of it.

Remove the incentives to be a self funded retiree and you will get LESS self funded retirees.

Justabout all your proposals compound unsustainability not improve it.........

Look, poor people should have thought about their health care options before they decided to be poor. Stop expecting hardworking taxpayers to fund your lifestyle choices when we have Rupert to pay and corporate welfare to fund.
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This is how the Coalition view poor people and want us to be more like America!

aquascoot wrote on Feb 20^th, 2014 at 8:18am:
  Actually no, this is the difficult question you need to answer.  Let Tony Abbott speak for himself and you speak for you.  Because ultimately I expect your answer on this will be one of the issues that guide you when you cast your vote in the next Federal election.  So, lets try and answer it shall we. 

Should we let that woman die from breast cancer because she can't afford the medicine or should we, the tax payer, be prepared to pay for the medicine so she doesn't die? Whats your answer to that? 

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Feb 20^th, 2014 at 1:38pm:



  We pay for it now,, SO WHATS YOUR PROBLEM   

matty wrote on Feb 20^th, 2014 at 9:45am:


I think before we start charging $6 to visit the doctor we need to recoup all that tax $$$$ the tax payer paid so that Matty could go to a private school instead of going to a public school like most everybody else.  Why are we starving medicare of funds to pay for this slime bag's elitist education so that he comes out of it thinking he's more entitled then everyone else.  I mean whats he done except hang off daddy's coat sleeves.  Didn't Hockey tell us that these people with their entitled attitudes need to be booted out of the country.   

Mr Dutton, has let the cat out of the bag.  Leave medicare and bulk billing alone.