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Medicare: It didn't that long (Read 5355 times)
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Re: Medicare: It didn't that long
Reply #45 - Feb 20th, 2014 at 1:23pm
 
Bam wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 9:20am:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 9:07am:
What does "It didn't that long" mean?

Ask your English teacher if you have problems with English language comprehension.


Maybe you should, as it is not a complete sentence and does not make sense!
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Reply #46 - Feb 20th, 2014 at 1:29pm
 
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Mr Dutton, has let the cat out of the bag.  Leave medicare and bulk billing alone.      Angry 


Not in my opinion. The $6 fee sounds like a great idea to me. Unfortunately it's not going to happen.
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Reply #47 - Feb 20th, 2014 at 1:31pm
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 1:23pm:
Bam wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 9:20am:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 9:07am:
What does "It didn't that long" mean?

Ask your English teacher if you have problems with English language comprehension.


Maybe you should, as it is not a complete sentence and does not make sense!


Would you expect anything different from the wise one though? At least he seems to have come up with the title himself, everything else that he posts is just copied and pasted.
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Reply #48 - Feb 20th, 2014 at 1:44pm
 
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Mr Dutton, has let the cat out of the bag.  Leave medicare and bulk billing alone.      Angry 

This is going to cost the Liberals a Senate seat in WA.

The Liberals denied the co-payment during the Griffith by-election campaign. Now that that by-election is done, they have announced that it is actually under consideration.

Then the High Court annuls the WA Senate result.

Talk about giving the ALP a loaded gun with the WA Liberal having targets painted on their foreheads. The voters of WA won't miss.
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Reply #49 - Feb 20th, 2014 at 1:50pm
 
Yes Bam, l think your right on that.  Thanks for letting the cat out of the bag, Mr Dutton.      Smiley
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Reply #50 - Feb 20th, 2014 at 1:57pm
 
Simple way for Dutton to make people that can afford to pay more, pay more as he said is to dump the 30% rebate and raise the levy. Simple and efficient.
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Reply #51 - Feb 20th, 2014 at 1:58pm
 
ImSpartacus2 wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 11:25am:
matty wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 9:45am:
No $6 fee, at least yet. What a shame, neither party has the guts to scrap or at least reduce Medicare.


I think before we start charging $6 to visit the doctor we need to recoup all that tax $$$$ the tax payer paid so that Matty could go to a private school instead of going to a public school like most everybody else.  Why are we starving medicare of funds to pay for this slime bag's elitist education so that he comes out of it thinking he's more entitled then everyone else.  I mean whats he done except hang off daddy's coat sleeves.  Didn't Hockey tell us that these people with their entitled attitudes need to be booted out of the country.   


Total BS. If Matty went to a private school, he cost the taxpayer less than if he went to a public school. His parents should get a rebate moron
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Reply #52 - Feb 20th, 2014 at 2:09pm
 
Dsmithy70 wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 1:53pm:
ImSpartacus2 wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 1:38pm:
aquascoot wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 8:18am:
They are really going after the wrong end of the system. Australias spend on primary care (GP's ) has declined as a percentage over time.
It is the spend on very very expensive high tech and high end pharmaceuticals that will cripple the system

If a drug to treat end stage breast cancer (ie prolong life by 6 months with no prospect of a cure) costs $100,000 a patient. Should this be listed on the pbs and paid for by the taxpayer. What if its 2 months, What if its 5 years.
These are the difficult questions that the government need to discuss with the public.
Doctors will not (and should not) be making decisions based on economics. They will always do what it best and bugger the cost. The taxpayer and the government need to decide what level of care they want and then provide it efficiently and equitably.
  Actually no, this is the difficult question you need to answer.  Let Tony Abbott speak for himself and you speak for you.  Because ultimately I expect your answer on this will be one of the issues that guide you when you cast your vote in the next Federal election.  So, lets try and answer it shall we. 

Should we let that woman die from breast cancer because she can't afford the medicine or should we, the tax payer, be prepared to pay for the medicine so she doesn't die? Whats your answer to that? 



Your question leaves out the most important part:

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to treat end stage breast cancer (ie prolong life by 6 months with no prospect of a cure)


Your question leaving out the above would get a resounding NO

The question in full would get a resounding YES

Our problem as a society is that apparently we are all entitled & not allowed to die.

Entitled - example - any women over 40 on IVF- have your kids when your body is supposed to.
I laugh at my friends in their late 30's early 40's having their 1st child, Im 43 my daughters just turned 18 & guess what, so have my wife & I. Cheesy

Not allowed to die - The countless examples of people being brought back even when they have stated Do not recus then linger as virtual vegetables for years.
The 90 year old Alzheimer sufferer, no idea where or what they are let alone who who has major medical intervention for anything really.

But of course we not only want the above, we want tax cuts as well.


On a personal note- my mother died from Breast Cancer  14/8/95, actually we don't know what eventually killed her as an autopsy was refused.
The breast cancer caused Peripheral neuropathy.
The screams that came from the bedroom as palliative care nurses moved her to bath her, the memory still bring tears to my eyes.

needless to say by 1/2/95 death was begged for instead of a cure or extension of life. Sad


Can't think of anything worse than spending our 20s with kids.
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Reply #53 - Feb 20th, 2014 at 2:18pm
 
Aussie wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 7:34am:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 4:40am:
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We can't all afford private health insurance.     Sad


How is that my problem?


Mr Hicks:

1.  Do you pay tax in Australia?
2.  What ought the Australian Government do with that tax you pay (if any?)


My wife and I paid nearly $130,000 per year in tax through PAYE when we there.

The taxes should go on roads, police, prisons etc.

What I don't get is why we had to pay a fortune to fund some loser to have his family get free healthcare.
"It's my right to have it"

Well I tell you what buddy, how about get off your fricken ass get a job and pay for it like I do?

Sorry, but Australia does have a far greater Socialist mindset than anywhere else I've lived.
Oh and everybody knows Socialism became a very dirty word 30 years ago to now.
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Reply #54 - Feb 20th, 2014 at 2:20pm
 
Setanta wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 1:57pm:
Simple way for Dutton to make people that can afford to pay more, pay more as he said is to dump the 30% rebate and raise the levy. Simple and efficient.


What a shock.

Tax the Rich eh?

Because Australia doesn't already have a shocking reputation for that already.

I pay $10,000 less in tax in the UK than I did in Australia under regular PAYE.
The reason?
Your absurd higher tax rates and low kick ins.
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Reply #55 - Feb 20th, 2014 at 2:25pm
 
One day, Boer, you may discover the world doesn't revolve around you.

But then again, maybe you won't.

I know what my money would be on.
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Reply #56 - Feb 20th, 2014 at 2:29pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 4:40am:
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We can't all afford private health insurance.     Sad


How is that my problem?



You really are an arsehole.




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Reply #57 - Feb 20th, 2014 at 2:30pm
 
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The taxes should go on roads, police, prisons etc.


How are those things your problem.  After all, you only want roads or police or prisons where you are.....not where any other taxpayer might be.

You want to corrall the tax you pay to where it benefits just you.

Sorry......You are paying tax in Australia, and our system is not all about just you and yours.  We pay taxes here for the collective good, not for selective benefit.

I'm a Ghandi fan on this issue.

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The True Measure of Any Society can be found in how it treats its most vulnerable members.


I put universal health care right at the heart of that.

You, on the other hand, could not care less about those vulnerable members, just so long as you are okay, hey Jack.
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Reply #58 - Feb 20th, 2014 at 2:30pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 2:20pm:
Setanta wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 1:57pm:
Simple way for Dutton to make people that can afford to pay more, pay more as he said is to dump the 30% rebate and raise the levy. Simple and efficient.


What a shock.

Tax the Rich eh?

Because Australia doesn't already have a shocking reputation for that already.

I pay $10,000 less in tax in the UK than I did in Australia under regular PAYE.
The reason?
Your absurd higher tax rates and low kick ins.


Why blame me? Dutton said those that can pay more should pay more. Don't you hate our Lib govt.  Roll Eyes

I don't give an f what you pay Andrei and neither does anyone else here. You only keep sprouting this kind of stuff as some kind of "look at me, mum!" Get over it.

What better way to get the revenue do you have in mind rather than whine about taxes? Dropping the rebate would put 5.3 billion dollars back in govt coffers. Nothing is fairer than the medicare rebate.
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Reply #59 - Feb 20th, 2014 at 2:30pm
 
Being a non paying non-citizen who pretty much adds nothing to my country.
I am not surprised to see you on the side of hard working people paying for your freeloaders - kiwis included.

I'd rather hear from people who actually contribute to Australia as opposed to washed up free riders thanks. Sane ones or not.
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