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Coalition Gunning To Fall In Victoria
Feb 22^nd, 2014 at 1:13pm

Coalition's hold on Victorian Parliament threatened as Mildura MP Peter Crisp faces firearms charges

The Coalition's hold on power in Victoria could be under threat after a National Party MP was charged with firearms offences.

Mildura MP Peter Crisp is due to face court in May over a number of charges including the possession of a prohibited firearm and the possession of guns without a licence.

He was charged after reporting the theft of three guns from his farm in New South Wales.

If convicted, Mr Crisp would be ineligible to sit in Parliament, which would force a by-election and could threaten the Coalition's ability to govern.

Mr Crisp says he has always held the appropriate NSW and Victorian licences and had taken all reasonable precautions to ensure the safe storage of his guns.

Government frontbencher Nicholas Kotsiras says legal restrictions prevent him from talking about the issue.

"Peter is going to defend those allegations. It's a legal matter and it would be unfair of me to make any further comments at this stage," Mr Kotsiras said.

But Deputy Opposition leader James Merlino says the Government is trying to keep the charges quiet.

"What Victorians would want to see today is Denis Napthine coming out and revealing what he knew, when he knew it," he said.

"This is one of his government MPs

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-02-22/victorian-mp-charged-with-firearms-offence...

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imcrookonit Ex Member	Re: Coalition Gunna Fall In Victoria Reply #2 - Feb 22^nd, 2014 at 1:18pm Good buy Mr Napthine.
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 106706 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Coalition Gunna Fall In Victoria Reply #3 - Feb 22^nd, 2014 at 2:02pm Quote: Good buy Mr Napthine. Yep - Dirty Dennis will be waiting in the queue at Centerlink.
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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: Coalition Gunna Fall In Victoria Reply #4 - Feb 22^nd, 2014 at 2:04pm Quote: Good buy Mr Napthine. Did he buy something good?
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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: Coalition Gunning To Fall In Victoria Reply #5 - Feb 22^nd, 2014 at 3:26pm Kinda shot himself in the foot
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True Blue... Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3748 Gender:	Re: Coalition Gunna Fall In Victoria Reply #6 - Feb 22^nd, 2014 at 3:32pm Swagman wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2014 at 2:04pm: Quote: Good buy Mr Napthine. Did he buy something good?
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Reply #7 - Feb 22^nd, 2014 at 9:01pm

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Good buy Mr Napthine.

I wouldn't be so sure. Mildura is Nationals heartland, and it is likely that the Nationals would win a by-election if one were necessary. A possibility would be a prominent independent candidate getting up, as happened in the 1999 election in this seat. Nevertheless, the most likely outcome would be the Nationals retaining this seat.

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Re: Coalition Gunning To Fall In Victoria
Reply #8 - Feb 22^nd, 2014 at 10:42pm

____ wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2014 at 1:13pm:

Coalition's hold on Victorian Parliament threatened as Mildura MP Peter Crisp faces firearms charges

The Coalition's hold on power in Victoria could be under threat after a National Party MP was charged with firearms offences.

Mildura MP Peter Crisp is due to face court in May over a number of charges including the possession of a prohibited firearm and the possession of guns without a licence.

He was charged after reporting the theft of three guns from his farm in New South Wales.

If convicted, Mr Crisp would be ineligible to sit in Parliament, which would force a by-election and could threaten the Coalition's ability to govern.

Mr Crisp says he has always held the appropriate NSW and Victorian licences and had taken all reasonable precautions to ensure the safe storage of his guns.

Government frontbencher Nicholas Kotsiras says legal restrictions prevent him from talking about the issue.

"Peter is going to defend those allegations. It's a legal matter and it would be unfair of me to make any further comments at this stage," Mr Kotsiras said.

But Deputy Opposition leader James Merlino says the Government is trying to keep the charges quiet.

"What Victorians would want to see today is Denis Napthine coming out and revealing what he knew, when he knew it," he said.

"This is one of his government MPs

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-02-22/victorian-mp-charged-with-firearms-offence...

He is a white man with a gun so of course the greens/leftist anti gun bigots and racists say he is guilty until he proves he is innocent, if it was a migrant doing a drive by shooting in Sydney the greens/leftists would probably say he is innocent until proven guilty.

The charges he is facing are posses prohibited firearm and being unlicensed which resulted from him reporting a theft of his firearms in NSW, if he has a license that charge is easily beaten, if his farm is classified as primary producer then he could get off the prohibited weapon as well,he is not permitted to take category C weapons from his farm hence the reason why he left them on the farm.
I think for those cases where a primary producer also live elsewhere they should be allowed to take their category C weapons with them and store them in a safe where they live instead of leaving them on a Farm where they cannot monitor them and may not return for several weeks.

The states dont communicate with each other very well with shooters licenses, this has to change, a state license is valid for all of Australia.

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Frances Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3577 In a Castle in the Hills Gender:	Re: Coalition Gunning To Fall In Victoria Reply #9 - Feb 22^nd, 2014 at 10:48pm Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2014 at 10:42pm: He is a white man with a gun so of course the greens/leftist anti gun bigots and racists say he is guilty until he proves he is innocent Where has anyone, left or right, said that he is guilty?
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Re: Coalition Gunning To Fall In Victoria
Reply #10 - Feb 22^nd, 2014 at 11:16pm

Frances wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2014 at 10:48pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2014 at 10:42pm:

He is a white man with a gun so of course the greens/leftist anti gun bigots and racists say he is guilty until he proves he is innocent

Where has anyone, left or right, said that he is guilty?

The thread title,the greens policy on firearms is nobody should have them and feral pests are a protected species in national parks.

A firearm is the best tool for dealing with feral pest problems, trapping and poison do not discriminate in which species they kill.

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Re: Coalition Gunning To Fall In Victoria
Reply #11 - Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 10:09am

____ wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2014 at 1:13pm:

Coalition's hold on Victorian Parliament threatened as Mildura MP Peter Crisp faces firearms charges

The Coalition's hold on power in Victoria could be under threat after a National Party MP was charged with firearms offences.

Mildura MP Peter Crisp is due to face court in May over a number of charges including the possession of a prohibited firearm and the possession of guns without a licence.

He was charged after reporting the theft of three guns from his farm in New South Wales.

If convicted, Mr Crisp would be ineligible to sit in Parliament, which would force a by-election and could threaten the Coalition's ability to govern.

Mr Crisp says he has always held the appropriate NSW and Victorian licences and had taken all reasonable precautions to ensure the safe storage of his guns.

Government frontbencher Nicholas Kotsiras says legal restrictions prevent him from talking about the issue.

"Peter is going to defend those allegations. It's a legal matter and it would be unfair of me to make any further comments at this stage," Mr Kotsiras said.

But Deputy Opposition leader James Merlino says the Government is trying to keep the charges quiet.

"What Victorians would want to see today is Denis Napthine coming out and revealing what he knew, when he knew it," he said.

"This is one of his government MPs

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-02-22/victorian-mp-charged-with-firearms-offence...

Sounds as though you love debts and lefist criminal activity that has done so well in NSW.

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Re: Coalition Gunning To Fall In Victoria
Reply #12 - Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 2:35pm

olde.sault wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 10:09am:

____ wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2014 at 1:13pm:

Coalition's hold on Victorian Parliament threatened as Mildura MP Peter Crisp faces firearms charges

The Coalition's hold on power in Victoria could be under threat after a National Party MP was charged with firearms offences.

Mildura MP Peter Crisp is due to face court in May over a number of charges including the possession of a prohibited firearm and the possession of guns without a licence.

He was charged after reporting the theft of three guns from his farm in New South Wales.

If convicted, Mr Crisp would be ineligible to sit in Parliament, which would force a by-election and could threaten the Coalition's ability to govern.

Mr Crisp says he has always held the appropriate NSW and Victorian licences and had taken all reasonable precautions to ensure the safe storage of his guns.

Government frontbencher Nicholas Kotsiras says legal restrictions prevent him from talking about the issue.

"Peter is going to defend those allegations. It's a legal matter and it would be unfair of me to make any further comments at this stage," Mr Kotsiras said.

But Deputy Opposition leader James Merlino says the Government is trying to keep the charges quiet.

"What Victorians would want to see today is Denis Napthine coming out and revealing what he knew, when he knew it," he said.

"This is one of his government MPs

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-02-22/victorian-mp-charged-with-firearms-offence...

Sounds as though you love debts and lefist criminal activity that has done so well in NSW.

Apart from right criminal activity and debt?

This is a Coalition member and it shows their not above criminality either!

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Re: Coalition Gunning To Fall In Victoria
Reply #13 - Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 2:42pm

Fit of Absent Mindeness wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 2:35pm:

olde.sault wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 10:09am:

____ wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2014 at 1:13pm:

Coalition's hold on Victorian Parliament threatened as Mildura MP Peter Crisp faces firearms charges

The Coalition's hold on power in Victoria could be under threat after a National Party MP was charged with firearms offences.

Mildura MP Peter Crisp is due to face court in May over a number of charges including the possession of a prohibited firearm and the possession of guns without a licence.

He was charged after reporting the theft of three guns from his farm in New South Wales.

If convicted, Mr Crisp would be ineligible to sit in Parliament, which would force a by-election and could threaten the Coalition's ability to govern.

Mr Crisp says he has always held the appropriate NSW and Victorian licences and had taken all reasonable precautions to ensure the safe storage of his guns.

Government frontbencher Nicholas Kotsiras says legal restrictions prevent him from talking about the issue.

"Peter is going to defend those allegations. It's a legal matter and it would be unfair of me to make any further comments at this stage," Mr Kotsiras said.

But Deputy Opposition leader James Merlino says the Government is trying to keep the charges quiet.

"What Victorians would want to see today is Denis Napthine coming out and revealing what he knew, when he knew it," he said.

"This is one of his government MPs

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-02-22/victorian-mp-charged-with-firearms-offence...

Sounds as though you love debts and lefist criminal activity that has done so well in NSW.

This is a Coalition member and it shows their not above criminality either!

A white man with a gun so the leftists think he is guilty until he proves he is innocent.

If it was a migrant doing a drive by shooting the leftists would say innocent until proven guilty.

When it comes to white people and guns the leftists are racist bigots.

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Re: Coalition Gunna Fall In Victoria
Reply #14 - Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 2:50pm

Bam wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2014 at 9:01pm:

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Good buy Mr Napthine.

I wouldn't be so sure. Mildura is Nationals heartland, and it is likely that the Nationals would win a by-election if one were necessary. A possibility would be a prominent independent candidate getting up, as happened in the 1999 election in this seat. Nevertheless, the most likely outcome would be the Nationals retaining this seat.

Have to agree.
Would be a BIG turnaround for the Nats to lose that seat....
Can always live in kope, I suppose.

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