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Reply #15 - Feb 23rd, 2014 at 2:04pm
 
woody2014 wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 1:55pm:
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He must resign.

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This means that if waste, corruption, or any other misbehaviour is found to have occurred within a ministry, the minister is responsible even if the minister had no knowledge of the actions. A minister is ultimately responsible for all actions by a ministry because, even without knowledge of an infraction by subordinates, the minister approved the hiring and continued employment of those civil servants. If misdeeds are found to have occurred in a ministry, the minister is expected to resign. It is also possible for a minister to face criminal charges for malfeasance under their watch.


No carbon tax under a govt I lead  "LIE"


So you excuse this governments wrong doings by comparing  them to the former governments perceived lies( as Gillard didn't lie! she said she would price carbon and she did, so you're the liar) which you whined about like the hysterical hypocritical baby you are.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #16 - Feb 23rd, 2014 at 2:05pm
 
I suppose the Pink-Batts fiasco which caused the deaths of more than one, I think four, young installers didn't warrant a sacrificial lamb eh, because it sure as hell didn't get one!
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Reply #17 - Feb 23rd, 2014 at 2:10pm
 
viewpoint wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 2:05pm:
I suppose the Pink-Batts fiasco which caused the deaths of more than one, I think four, young installers didn't warrant a sacrificial lamb eh, because it sure as hell didn't get one!


Quite right.  But, that has zero to do with Morrison and his obligations as a Minister of the Crown in a Westminster system of Government.

Lying scum of a Ministerial kind must go, and if they don't fall on their sword, the PM has an obligation to send them on their way.
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Reply #18 - Feb 23rd, 2014 at 2:12pm
 
viewpoint wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 2:05pm:
I suppose the Pink-Batts fiasco which caused the deaths of more than one, I think four, young installers didn't warrant a sacrificial lamb eh, because it sure as hell didn't get one!



How many inquires do you need before you get the answer you want.

Now back on track, Morrison lied so why are you sticking up for him?


Next time don't try to highjack the thread
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Reply #19 - Feb 23rd, 2014 at 2:15pm
 
John S wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 2:12pm:
viewpoint wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 2:05pm:
I suppose the Pink-Batts fiasco which caused the deaths of more than one, I think four, young installers didn't warrant a sacrificial lamb eh, because it sure as hell didn't get one!



How many inquires do you need before you get the answer you want.

Now back on track, Morrison lied so why are you sticking up for him?


Next time don't try to highjack the thread


Do you have proof he lied? If so, lets see it.
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Reply #20 - Feb 23rd, 2014 at 2:16pm
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 2:15pm:
John S wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 2:12pm:
viewpoint wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 2:05pm:
I suppose the Pink-Batts fiasco which caused the deaths of more than one, I think four, young installers didn't warrant a sacrificial lamb eh, because it sure as hell didn't get one!



How many inquires do you need before you get the answer you want.

Now back on track, Morrison lied so why are you sticking up for him?


Next time don't try to highjack the thread


Do you have proof he lied? If so, lets see it.


Is his confession acceptable to you as proof?
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Re: Morrison Lied. Sack him Abbott
Reply #21 - Feb 23rd, 2014 at 2:34pm
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 2:15pm:
John S wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 2:12pm:
viewpoint wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 2:05pm:
I suppose the Pink-Batts fiasco which caused the deaths of more than one, I think four, young installers didn't warrant a sacrificial lamb eh, because it sure as hell didn't get one!



How many inquires do you need before you get the answer you want.

Now back on track, Morrison lied so why are you sticking up for him?


Next time don't try to highjack the thread


Do you have proof he lied? If so, lets see it.


ARE YOU FOR REAL?

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/23/scott-morrison-contradicts-account-...

Scott Morrison has contradicted his previous account of last week’s unrest at the Manus Island processing centre, now conceding the events – including the death of one asylum seeker – occurred largely within the perimeter compound.

The immigration minister released a statement late on Saturday night saying: “I wish to confirm that contrary to initial reports received, I have received further information that indicates that the majority of the riotous behaviour that occurred, and the response to that behaviour to restore order to the centre, took place within the perimeter of the centre.

“As advised on the afternoon of Tuesday February 18, I indicated that I had received further information which meant that I could no longer confirm that the deceased man sustained his injuries outside the centre. The further information I have now received casts further doubt on the initial advice that his injuries were sustained outside the centre.”

Are you actually saying that he didn't lie - even though he just admitted to it?

Even Andrew Bolt doesn't believe him:

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/morri...

Immigration Minister Scott Morrison admits he was misled about the Manus Island riot - misled, I’d add, in a very serious way:


I wish to confirm that contrary to initial reports received, I have received further information that indicates that the majority of the riotous behaviour that occurred, and the response to that behaviour to restore order to the centre, took place within the perimeter of the centre.

As advised on the afternoon of Tuesday February 18, I indicated that I had received further information which meant that I could no longer confirm that the deceased man sustained his injuries outside the centre. The further information I have now received casts further doubt on the initial advice that his injuries were sustained outside the centre.

I find it hard to believe that whoever assured Morrison or his staff that most injuries were suffered outside the centre was not lying. It’s no longer possible to believe other assurances now, including claims there was no evidence of anyone having their throat cut.

My confidence in the information given to date by the Government on this riot is now extremely low.

There is now an independent investigation, but I’d like some interim signs that the guilty are being removed and any suspect staff urgently replaced
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Reply #22 - Feb 23rd, 2014 at 2:35pm
 
I think AP has gone for the "Long P!ss"......


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Reply #23 - Feb 23rd, 2014 at 2:39pm
 
viewpoint wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 1:55pm:
As I said, he can only convey information as it is given to him.

Fish mouth Bowen, like Milne, and no doubt that whinging bug-eyed SHY are merely using this unfortunate death for political leverage.......scum!

They rioted, they caused the situation.


rubbish ... he needs to check his information before he opens his mouth ...

if his secretary said to him that she heard the asylum seekers were eating their kids, would he just come out and announce it to the media? or do you think he might check to see if it were true before opening his mouth?
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Reply #24 - Feb 23rd, 2014 at 2:45pm
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 2:15pm:
Do you have proof he lied? If so, lets see it.


for you to see it you'd need to open your eyes first ....  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #25 - Feb 23rd, 2014 at 2:47pm
 
John Smith wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 2:45pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 2:15pm:
Do you have proof he lied? If so, lets see it.


for you to see it you'd need to open your eyes first ....  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

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Reply #166 - Today at 2:42pm Quote  Greens_Win wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 4:57am:
Inquiry launched into PNG violence

A government inquiry is to be held into violent clashes on Manus Island that left one Iranian asylum seeker dead and scores of others severely injured.

Monday was the second day of violence in Papua New Guinea as tensions escalated between asylum seekers, the security forces, the local police and PNG residents, in what refugee advocates have described as a ''premeditated massacre'' on the island.

On Tuesday night, Immigration Minister Scott Morrison conceded it was unclear whether the attacks happened inside or outside the detention centre. ''I can't give you an absolute position on that as there are some conflicting reports at the moment and once those are resolved and the reasons for those conflicts then I'd be in a position to report on it,'' he said at a news conference in Canberra.

Mr Morrison said an independent review would investigate the violence. The secretary of his department, Martin Bowles, would "initiate a full review into this incident in the same way the former government commissioned previous reviews into incidents".

Tension had been simmering for weeks in the centre, as asylum seekers became more anxious about their future and when they would be processed. In a meeting on Sunday night they were told that if they were not found to be a refugee, neither the Australian nor PNG governments would help them resettle in PNG.

That night 35 people escaped the centre, wielding bed posts as weapons in protest at the news and 19 people were injured. On Monday afternoon, the tension had become so great asylum seekers were contacting refugee advocates saying they were fearful of a violent attack by PNG police and angry locals.

By early Tuesday morning one asylum seeker had been killed, one had been shot and more than 77 people lay bloodied, cut and severely injured. Four asylum seekers have since been transferred to Port Moresby, while one has been transferred to Australia.

The president of the Human Rights Commission, Professor Gillian Triggs, said Australia was not upholding its international responsibility to asylum seekers, and also called for an inquiry.

''The primary obligation that Australia has is to offer protection for asylum seekers and we cannot abdicate that responsibility by sending people to a third country, in this case Papua New Guinea.''

On Tuesday morning Mr Morrison warned asylum seekers of dangerous conditions outside the centre. ''Those who are breaching the perimeter fence and going out of the centre, then this is a disorderly environment in which there is always great risk,'' he told reporters in Darwin.

But there is some doubt where the Iranian asylum seeker died.

Papua New Guinea Prime Minister Peter O'Neill said in a statement that the Iranian man died from ''serious injuries sustained during the fight at the centre''.

Mr O'Neill said the incident was ''most regrettable'' and vowed to investigate. Anyone found to be breaking PNG law would be prosecuted, he said.

His spokesman later said the Iranian man had been ''in or around the centre'' when he was killed. He could not say whether the man was inside the perimeter.
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Reply #26 - Feb 23rd, 2014 at 2:48pm
 
Fit of Absent Mindeness wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 2:34pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 2:15pm:
John S wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 2:12pm:
viewpoint wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 2:05pm:
I suppose the Pink-Batts fiasco which caused the deaths of more than one, I think four, young installers didn't warrant a sacrificial lamb eh, because it sure as hell didn't get one!



How many inquires do you need before you get the answer you want.

Now back on track, Morrison lied so why are you sticking up for him?


Next time don't try to highjack the thread


Do you have proof he lied? If so, lets see it.


ARE YOU FOR REAL?

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/23/scott-morrison-contradicts-account-...

Scott Morrison has contradicted his previous account of last week’s unrest at the Manus Island processing centre, now conceding the events – including the death of one asylum seeker – occurred largely within the perimeter compound.

The immigration minister released a statement late on Saturday night saying: “I wish to confirm that contrary to initial reports received, I have received further information that indicates that the majority of the riotous behaviour that occurred, and the response to that behaviour to restore order to the centre, took place within the perimeter of the centre.

“As advised on the afternoon of Tuesday February 18, I indicated that I had received further information which meant that I could no longer confirm that the deceased man sustained his injuries outside the centre. The further information I have now received casts further doubt on the initial advice that his injuries were sustained outside the centre.”

Are you actually saying that he didn't lie - even though he just admitted to it?

Even Andrew Bolt doesn't believe him:

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/morri...

Immigration Minister Scott Morrison admits he was misled about the Manus Island riot - misled, I’d add, in a very serious way:


I wish to confirm that contrary to initial reports received, I have received further information that indicates that the majority of the riotous behaviour that occurred, and the response to that behaviour to restore order to the centre, took place within the perimeter of the centre.

As advised on the afternoon of Tuesday February 18, I indicated that I had received further information which meant that I could no longer confirm that the deceased man sustained his injuries outside the centre. The further information I have now received casts further doubt on the initial advice that his injuries were sustained outside the centre.

I find it hard to believe that whoever assured Morrison or his staff that most injuries were suffered outside the centre was not lying. It’s no longer possible to believe other assurances now, including claims there was no evidence of anyone having their throat cut.

My confidence in the information given to date by the Government on this riot is now extremely low.

There is now an independent investigation, but I’d like some interim signs that the guilty are being removed and any suspect staff urgently replaced


Let's get this right from all sides of the political divide.  It is a given that when a Minister of the Crown goes stridently public on a matter as serious as the death of a human being in his care, and makes statements of fact about the circumstances surrounding that death (without the usual caveat of "I have been advised that......) he must be telling the truth.  No ifs or buts.  It must be true.

We know he lied, because he has now confessed to the lie.

It is 1 + 1 = 2, people.  If a Minister of the Crown is caught in this very scenario, his obligation is to resign.  If he doesn't, it is the job of the PM to boot him.

But, I am not confident that will happen under an Abbott led Government, thus disgracing this Country internally and internationally.
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Reply #27 - Feb 23rd, 2014 at 2:52pm
 
woody2014 wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 2:47pm:
John Smith wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 2:45pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 2:15pm:
Do you have proof he lied? If so, lets see it.


for you to see it you'd need to open your eyes first ....  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Re: Close Manus Now
Reply #166 - Today at 2:42pm Quote  Greens_Win wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 4:57am:
Inquiry launched into PNG violence

A government inquiry is to be held into violent clashes on Manus Island that left one Iranian asylum seeker dead and scores of others severely injured.

Monday was the second day of violence in Papua New Guinea as tensions escalated between asylum seekers, the security forces, the local police and PNG residents, in what refugee advocates have described as a ''premeditated massacre'' on the island.

On Tuesday night, Immigration Minister Scott Morrison conceded it was unclear whether the attacks happened inside or outside the detention centre. ''I can't give you an absolute position on that as there are some conflicting reports at the moment and once those are resolved and the reasons for those conflicts then I'd be in a position to report on it,'' he said at a news conference in Canberra.

Mr Morrison said an independent review would investigate the violence. The secretary of his department, Martin Bowles, would "initiate a full review into this incident in the same way the former government commissioned previous reviews into incidents".

Tension had been simmering for weeks in the centre, as asylum seekers became more anxious about their future and when they would be processed. In a meeting on Sunday night they were told that if they were not found to be a refugee, neither the Australian nor PNG governments would help them resettle in PNG.

That night 35 people escaped the centre, wielding bed posts as weapons in protest at the news and 19 people were injured. On Monday afternoon, the tension had become so great asylum seekers were contacting refugee advocates saying they were fearful of a violent attack by PNG police and angry locals.

By early Tuesday morning one asylum seeker had been killed, one had been shot and more than 77 people lay bloodied, cut and severely injured. Four asylum seekers have since been transferred to Port Moresby, while one has been transferred to Australia.

The president of the Human Rights Commission, Professor Gillian Triggs, said Australia was not upholding its international responsibility to asylum seekers, and also called for an inquiry.

''The primary obligation that Australia has is to offer protection for asylum seekers and we cannot abdicate that responsibility by sending people to a third country, in this case Papua New Guinea.''

On Tuesday morning Mr Morrison warned asylum seekers of dangerous conditions outside the centre. ''Those who are breaching the perimeter fence and going out of the centre, then this is a disorderly environment in which there is always great risk,'' he told reporters in Darwin.

But there is some doubt where the Iranian asylum seeker died.

Papua New Guinea Prime Minister Peter O'Neill said in a statement that the Iranian man died from ''serious injuries sustained during the fight at the centre''.

Mr O'Neill said the incident was ''most regrettable'' and vowed to investigate. Anyone found to be breaking PNG law would be prosecuted, he said.

His spokesman later said the Iranian man had been ''in or around the centre'' when he was killed. He could not say whether the man was inside the perimeter.


I'm sure he concedes today that it was unclear, but that wasn't what the said when he made the statement originally
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Reply #28 - Feb 23rd, 2014 at 2:54pm
 
woody2014 wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 2:47pm:
John Smith wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 2:45pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 2:15pm:
Do you have proof he lied? If so, lets see it.


for you to see it you'd need to open your eyes first ....  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Re: Close Manus Now
Reply #166 - Today at 2:42pm Quote  Greens_Win wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 4:57am:
Inquiry launched into PNG violence

A government inquiry is to be held into violent clashes on Manus Island that left one Iranian asylum seeker dead and scores of others severely injured.

Monday was the second day of violence in Papua New Guinea as tensions escalated between asylum seekers, the security forces, the local police and PNG residents, in what refugee advocates have described as a ''premeditated massacre'' on the island.

On Tuesday night, Immigration Minister Scott Morrison conceded it was unclear whether the attacks happened inside or outside the detention centre. ''I can't give you an absolute position on that as there are some conflicting reports at the moment and once those are resolved and the reasons for those conflicts then I'd be in a position to report on it,'' he said at a news conference in Canberra.

Mr Morrison said an independent review would investigate the violence. The secretary of his department, Martin Bowles, would "initiate a full review into this incident in the same way the former government commissioned previous reviews into incidents".

Tension had been simmering for weeks in the centre, as asylum seekers became more anxious about their future and when they would be processed. In a meeting on Sunday night they were told that if they were not found to be a refugee, neither the Australian nor PNG governments would help them resettle in PNG.

That night 35 people escaped the centre, wielding bed posts as weapons in protest at the news and 19 people were injured. On Monday afternoon, the tension had become so great asylum seekers were contacting refugee advocates saying they were fearful of a violent attack by PNG police and angry locals.

By early Tuesday morning one asylum seeker had been killed, one had been shot and more than 77 people lay bloodied, cut and severely injured. Four asylum seekers have since been transferred to Port Moresby, while one has been transferred to Australia.

The president of the Human Rights Commission, Professor Gillian Triggs, said Australia was not upholding its international responsibility to asylum seekers, and also called for an inquiry.

''The primary obligation that Australia has is to offer protection for asylum seekers and we cannot abdicate that responsibility by sending people to a third country, in this case Papua New Guinea.''

On Tuesday morning Mr Morrison warned asylum seekers of dangerous conditions outside the centre. ''Those who are breaching the perimeter fence and going out of the centre, then this is a disorderly environment in which there is always great risk,'' he told reporters in Darwin.

But there is some doubt where the Iranian asylum seeker died.

Papua New Guinea Prime Minister Peter O'Neill said in a statement that the Iranian man died from ''serious injuries sustained during the fight at the centre''.

Mr O'Neill said the incident was ''most regrettable'' and vowed to investigate. Anyone found to be breaking PNG law would be prosecuted, he said.

His spokesman later said the Iranian man had been ''in or around the centre'' when he was killed. He could not say whether the man was inside the perimeter.


That was the 19th February.  Last night, Morrison confessed, but failed to fall on his sword.  The bloke is a dead duck politically, and given the penchant for this Government for secrecy and cover-up, I have no faith whatsoever in any Government controlled Inquiry. 

1.  Morrison must resign.
2.  If he doesn't, Abbott must sack him.
3.  There must be a Royal Commission with access to all Cabinet documents (given that door has now been opened.)
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Reply #29 - Feb 23rd, 2014 at 2:56pm
 
I have full confidence in the judgement of the Australian people to recognise that this bloke is the very best in the job for many a long day.

Of course, in saying that, I recognise that I come from a completely different perspective than the followers of the juvenile SHY.
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