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Re: Morrison Lied. Sack him Abbott
Reply #90 - Feb 24th, 2014 at 3:35pm
 
Verge wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 3:14pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 3:06pm:
The sadist must quit.  What an absolute disgrace of a mammal.


Why must he quit?  Because he made a statement last week based on information supplied to him that at that time wasnt correct.  A matter which he has since corrected?

Or are you hoping that if he quits its easier for people to mount a case to dismantle the current arrangements?


I think THIS sums up why he should go

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In his first press conference last Tuesday following the killing of Reza Berati on Manus Island, Morrison saw in Berati’s death — which, he acknowledged, was a tragedy — an opportunity to criticise asylum seekers. Berati had “put himself at risk” by leaving the detention centre, Morrison explained:

    “[T]his was a very dangerous situation where people decided to protest in a very violent way and to take themselves outside the centre and place themselves at great risk. In those situations our security people need to undertake the tasks that they need to undertake to restore the facility to a place of safety, and equally those who are maintaining the safety of the security environment outside the centre need to use their powers and various accoutrements that they have available to them in order to restore in the way that is provided for under PNG law.”

For Morrison, the death of Berati was a salutary lesson, a sort of Aesop’s Fable for detainees — don’t leave the centre or you’ll be dealt with “in the way that is provided for under PNG law”.



Simply he choose to try & make political capital out of the death

He knew his Tuesday AM statements were wrong by Tuesday PM

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But the story began unravelling within hours. At a second media conference late on Tuesday afternoon, he admitted under questioning from journalists — not in his opening statement — that Berati might not have been killed outside the detention centre, saying “where physically this took place based on the information I have received this afternoon, that is a matter where there are some conflicting reports”.

    Journalist: What are the conflicting reports?

    Morrison: Well, the reports are conflicting on where the individual might have been at the time.

    Journalist: Either inside or outside.

    Morrison: I am saying that there are conflicting reports …

Yet it took until yesterday to admit his mistake.
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Re: Morrison Lied. Sack him Abbott
Reply #91 - Feb 24th, 2014 at 3:38pm
 
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 3:35pm:
Sparky wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 3:32pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 3:24pm:
Sparky wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 3:23pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 3:21pm:
Verge wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 3:14pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 3:06pm:
The sadist must quit.  What an absolute disgrace of a mammal.


Why must he quit?  Because he made a statement last week based on information supplied to him that at that time wasnt correct.  A matter which he has since corrected?

Or are you hoping that if he quits its easier for people to mount a case to dismantle the current arrangements?


The current arrangements that completely disregard our obligations you mean? Sure, I want them dismantled.  They are against the refugee convention (despite what one might think of it) that we have signed up to, and if any other country had the balls, they'd take us to international courts and win.

But I don't want him to quit because I disagree with the policies of ALL parties in their entirety. And I doubt him quitting will change much with regard to government policy. No, I want him to quit because he remarks last week re: Indian who committed suicide, and his quick attempts to lay blame in this case, show him to be a sociopath.  No one needs a sociopath in such a contentious area.  Let him look after the ministry for... tea leaves. But don't let him anywhere near a portfolio that involves human beings.
So if Morrison does a backflip and the deaths start back up what will you think then?

Who said I'm expecting him to do a back flip? I'm expecting him to quit.  I fully expect the government however to keep to its moronic, internationally illegal, policy.

And the deaths haven't ended. They continue in our detention centres on a constant basis.  Not to mention that the sadists potentially put people back into vulnerable situations, all to keep the xenophobes calm.
You do realise that the reason the boats have stopped is because refugees aren't being settled in Australia. If he does what you and those candle burners want the whole mess will start up again. This must be what you all want. You are all confusing me. I think you don't care how many people die just as long as we get refugees. It sure looks that way.

You don't read very well, do you.

Let's just kill people instead of do what we are obligated to do , by conventions we sign up to.  Typical crazy.
you don't think very well. Do you want one death or a thousand. It's pretty simple.
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Reply #92 - Feb 24th, 2014 at 3:39pm
 
Sparky wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 3:38pm:
you don't think very well. Do you want one death or a thousand. It's pretty simple.

0 isn't an option?
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Reply #93 - Feb 24th, 2014 at 3:44pm
 
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 3:39pm:
Sparky wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 3:38pm:
you don't think very well. Do you want one death or a thousand. It's pretty simple.

0 isn't an option?
Nope.
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Reply #94 - Feb 24th, 2014 at 3:44pm
 
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 3:35pm:
Sparky wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 3:32pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 3:24pm:
Sparky wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 3:23pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 3:21pm:
Verge wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 3:14pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 3:06pm:
The sadist must quit.  What an absolute disgrace of a mammal.


Why must he quit?  Because he made a statement last week based on information supplied to him that at that time wasnt correct.  A matter which he has since corrected?

Or are you hoping that if he quits its easier for people to mount a case to dismantle the current arrangements?


The current arrangements that completely disregard our obligations you mean? Sure, I want them dismantled.  They are against the refugee convention (despite what one might think of it) that we have signed up to, and if any other country had the balls, they'd take us to international courts and win.

But I don't want him to quit because I disagree with the policies of ALL parties in their entirety. And I doubt him quitting will change much with regard to government policy. No, I want him to quit because he remarks last week re: Indian who committed suicide, and his quick attempts to lay blame in this case, show him to be a sociopath.  No one needs a sociopath in such a contentious area.  Let him look after the ministry for... tea leaves. But don't let him anywhere near a portfolio that involves human beings.
So if Morrison does a backflip and the deaths start back up what will you think then?

Who said I'm expecting him to do a back flip? I'm expecting him to quit.  I fully expect the government however to keep to its moronic, internationally illegal, policy.

And the deaths haven't ended. They continue in our detention centres on a constant basis.  Not to mention that the sadists potentially put people back into vulnerable situations, all to keep the xenophobes calm.
You do realise that the reason the boats have stopped is because refugees aren't being settled in Australia. If he does what you and those candle burners want the whole mess will start up again. This must be what you all want. You are all confusing me. I think you don't care how many people die just as long as we get refugees. It sure looks that way.

You don't read very well, do you.

Let's just kill people instead of do what we are obligated to do , by conventions we sign up to.  Typical crazy.



you got a dog alvine?
for the cost of feeding that dog, you could save 2 starving african kids.
Why you killing people alvine,  typical crazy
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Reply #95 - Feb 24th, 2014 at 3:46pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 3:44pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 3:35pm:
Sparky wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 3:32pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 3:24pm:
Sparky wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 3:23pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 3:21pm:
Verge wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 3:14pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 3:06pm:
The sadist must quit.  What an absolute disgrace of a mammal.


Why must he quit?  Because he made a statement last week based on information supplied to him that at that time wasnt correct.  A matter which he has since corrected?

Or are you hoping that if he quits its easier for people to mount a case to dismantle the current arrangements?


The current arrangements that completely disregard our obligations you mean? Sure, I want them dismantled.  They are against the refugee convention (despite what one might think of it) that we have signed up to, and if any other country had the balls, they'd take us to international courts and win.

But I don't want him to quit because I disagree with the policies of ALL parties in their entirety. And I doubt him quitting will change much with regard to government policy. No, I want him to quit because he remarks last week re: Indian who committed suicide, and his quick attempts to lay blame in this case, show him to be a sociopath.  No one needs a sociopath in such a contentious area.  Let him look after the ministry for... tea leaves. But don't let him anywhere near a portfolio that involves human beings.
So if Morrison does a backflip and the deaths start back up what will you think then?

Who said I'm expecting him to do a back flip? I'm expecting him to quit.  I fully expect the government however to keep to its moronic, internationally illegal, policy.

And the deaths haven't ended. They continue in our detention centres on a constant basis.  Not to mention that the sadists potentially put people back into vulnerable situations, all to keep the xenophobes calm.
You do realise that the reason the boats have stopped is because refugees aren't being settled in Australia. If he does what you and those candle burners want the whole mess will start up again. This must be what you all want. You are all confusing me. I think you don't care how many people die just as long as we get refugees. It sure looks that way.

You don't read very well, do you.

Let's just kill people instead of do what we are obligated to do , by conventions we sign up to.  Typical crazy.



you got a dog alvine?
for the cost of feeding that dog, you could save 2 starving african kids.
Why you killing people alvine,  typical crazy

no, I don't have a dog.
next?
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Reply #96 - Feb 24th, 2014 at 3:48pm
 
drink take away coffee?. $4 a cup give it up and save some lives.
you crazy Wink
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Reply #97 - Feb 24th, 2014 at 3:50pm
 
Aquascoot and Sparky say you're guilty of murder, Alevine. How do you plead?
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Reply #98 - Feb 24th, 2014 at 3:52pm
 
viewpoint wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 9:05am:
Aussie wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 8:03am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 7:58am:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 7:45am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 7:27am:
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Morrison is a liar...by the standards Abbott demanded of the previous government both Abbott and Morrison must resign.

Unless of course Abbott has been nothing but a conman all along?


If you run a business and I'm your accountant and I tell you the books are in great shape and you go out to tell your investors that, only to find out that wasn't true, are you the liar, or me?

So the business owner hired a dodgy accountant and ended up in a financial mess, who should ultimately take responsibility for the consequences of the misleading information?


But you didn't know the accountant was dodgy when you hired him - he came with all the right references.


Absurd analogy.  Morrison is a Minister of the Crown with serious responsibilities when it comes to truth, especially the truth about the circumstances in which a vulnerable person in his care is killed.  It was his job not to open his mouth and make bold assertions of fact unless he had made absolutely certain that what he was saying was the truth.


But haven't you and the other dolts been whining about Scott Morrison keeping you out of the loop Ozzie? You want the details as quickly as possible, and now you want it 100% accurate as well. Either you want accuracy or speed......which is it to be dipstick, if you want the news as it comes in then you have to be content with what is communicated at the time, accurate or not?

Now can you stop your whinging like that old goat Milne and Fishmouth Bowen, and just wait for information to be verified before spouting your fake and illogical concern.


I want both.  I want to be 100% confident that when a Minister of the Crown outlines facts that I can believe him without reservation.  It would be entirely different if he had said, "I have been advised.....bla bla bla."  But he did not.  He stated it is given fact that the person was killed outside the centre, and went on to basically assert that in going outside the centre, the deceased invited attack. 

I'm trying to find the source, but there are News reports Morrison also said ~ it is only inside the centre that he can guarantee the safety in refugees.  If that is what he said, he lied (and more) there as well.
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Reply #99 - Feb 24th, 2014 at 3:53pm
 
Karnal wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 3:50pm:
Aquascoot and Sparky say you're guilty of murder, Alevine. How do you plead?
Get in the cell and take your clothes off Alevine. It's time for the fire hose. Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry
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Reply #100 - Feb 24th, 2014 at 3:53pm
 
Karnal wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 3:50pm:
Aquascoot and Sparky say you're guilty of murder, Alevine. How do you plead?

Grin

I drink coffee Karnal. Must be so. Because you can't drink coffee and help - it's one or the other, according to aqua.

Also, mind you Karnal, I must be guilty because I agreed to abide by international law when dealing with refugees. Oh wait... no, I didn't. But hey, according to the dumb ones, that's the same as drinking coffee. Or owning a dog.

And Karnal, did you know that NO POLICY EXISTS that strives for 0 deaths? You must have death, Karnal. It's unavoidable.
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Reply #101 - Feb 24th, 2014 at 3:54pm
 
Sparky wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 3:53pm:
Karnal wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 3:50pm:
Aquascoot and Sparky say you're guilty of murder, Alevine. How do you plead?
Get in the cell and take your clothes off Alevine. It's time for the fire hose. Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry

Sparky, are your true ambitions coming out?  Kiss
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Reply #102 - Feb 24th, 2014 at 3:54pm
 
Karnal wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 3:50pm:
Aquascoot and Sparky say you're guilty of murder, Alevine. How do you plead?



If alvine supports SHY's call for a royal commision into this one death. This would cost $30,000,000.
enough to save maybe 30,000 african kids.
If alvine agrees with SHY, he supports numbers of deaths equal to genocide.
Shame, greenies, shame
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Reply #103 - Feb 24th, 2014 at 3:56pm
 
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 3:54pm:
Sparky wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 3:53pm:
Karnal wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 3:50pm:
Aquascoot and Sparky say you're guilty of murder, Alevine. How do you plead?
Get in the cell and take your clothes off Alevine. It's time for the fire hose. Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry

Sparky, are your true ambitions coming out?  Kiss
OH YEAH!!!! Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry
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Reply #104 - Feb 24th, 2014 at 3:56pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 3:54pm:
Karnal wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 3:50pm:
Aquascoot and Sparky say you're guilty of murder, Alevine. How do you plead?



If alvine supports SHY's call for a royal commision into this one death. This would cost $30,000,000.
enough to save maybe 30,000 african kids.
If alvine agrees with SHY, he supports numbers of deaths equal to genocide.
Shame, greenies, shame

Who said I agree with the greenies, Aqua? You seem to be assuming a bit too much today.
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