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Reply #15 - Feb 24th, 2014 at 8:25pm
 
Soren wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 7:34pm:
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Soren wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 8:20pm:
Taipan wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 3:49pm:
The Australian Greens say Immigration Minister Scott Morrison should be sacked for misleading the public over Manus Island after rioting at the detention centre.

The call comes after Mr Morrison backtracked on claims Iranian man Reza Berati died from injuries sustained outside Australia's facility in Papua New Guinea.

He now says it appears the majority of the "riotous behaviour" that led to the death of Berati and injuries to 62 other asylum seekers happened inside the centre's perimeter.
ttp:// ews.ninemsn.com.au/national/2014/02/23/11/02/morrison-must-explain-himself-labor


I love the way the current government is handling the country shopper situation. Better they be rioting and dying than ending up in our country only to commit crimes like murder, rape, pack rape, assault, theft, fraud, ram-raids etc... and add to the segregation, disunity, division and mistrust that multi-racialism brings.


We do not owe them settlement in Australia.
We send the to another Refugee Convention signatory country for processing because they are trying to enter Australia illegally.
Their refugee claim is heard and assessed and they can seek re-settlement anywhere else in the world.

Nobody can force Australia to resettle anyone who wants to settle here.
Simple, really.





Soren, really, turn it up!  We signed a document in 1951 which proves you wrong.  We are still bound Internationally by its terms.  All Abbott has to do (if he has the balls) is repudiate, and he is free to do whatever he pleases.  Can you tell me why he has not done that?

Huh





There is absolutely nothing, nothing in the refugee convention about obligation to permanently re-settle anyone.

Nothing.

Yes, you are reading it correctly - nothing. We owe permanent settlement to nobody under any convention or treaty or whatever.

Read the convention and repent for talking shite.





Here it is.  The Convention.  How do you like your crow?

Click here.
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Reply #16 - Feb 24th, 2014 at 8:45pm
 
The Greens are right on this. Morrison must be sacked for being mean. And Soren just because there is nothing that says we are obliged doesn't mean we shouldn't.
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Reply #17 - Feb 24th, 2014 at 8:54pm
 
Innocent bystander wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 8:03pm:
Other countries folk have pood in their own nest, now its time to bring them all here to carve up two hundred years of white mans peace and prosperity.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
The left are suicidal, they can't stand to be in their own white skin, the sooner the blacks and browns are smashing their empty skulls in and raping their children the better off they'll feel.    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


Pretty much.
I often wonder if their mothers or sisters were packed raped would they bring up the "they've had a hard life" scenario in defence of them?
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Reply #18 - Feb 24th, 2014 at 9:00pm
 
You can't blame asylum seekers for rape. It's all they know and its how they communicate with women. A few Aussie women suffering rape is nothing compared to the hardship suffered by asylum seekers. We need to be more accommodating and talk to them more so they won't feel the need to communicate with rape.
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Reply #19 - Feb 24th, 2014 at 9:17pm
 
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 8:54pm:
Innocent bystander wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 8:03pm:
Other countries folk have pood in their own nest, now its time to bring them all here to carve up two hundred years of white mans peace and prosperity.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
The left are suicidal, they can't stand to be in their own white skin, the sooner the blacks and browns are smashing their empty skulls in and raping their children the better off they'll feel.    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


Pretty much.
I often wonder if their mothers or sisters were packed raped would they bring up the "they've had a hard life" scenario in defence of them?


No, goose. We'd punish the guilty individuals.

Not their whole group, town, country as you do.
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Reply #20 - Feb 24th, 2014 at 9:47pm
 
Greensprogress wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 9:00pm:
You can't blame asylum seekers for rape. It's all they know and its how they communicate with women. A few Aussie women suffering rape is nothing compared to the hardship suffered by asylum seekers. We need to be more accommodating and talk to them more so they won't feel the need to communicate with rape.

Personal Safety Survey 2012

On 11 December 2013, the ABS re-issued the results of the nationally representative Personal Safety Survey presenting information about women's and men's experiences of violence. The ABS define sexual assault as "an act of a sexual nature carried out against a person's will through the use of physical force, intimidation or coercion". Sexual violence is defined as including sexual assault and sexual threat.

During the 12 months prior to the survey, 8.7% of all men over 18 years of age, and 5.3% of all women over 18 years of age had experienced some form of violence
Both women and men who experienced violence in the last 12 months, were more likely to have experienced physical violence than sexual violence
In 2012 an estimated 17% (1,494,000) of all women aged 18 years and over had experienced sexual assault since the age of 15.
In 2012 an estimated 4% (336,000) of all men aged 18 years and over had experienced sexual assault since the age of 15.
Both women and men were more likely to experience sexual violence that is perpetrated by a known person rather than a stranger.
For women the most likely type of known perpetrator of sexual violence was a boyfriend/girlfriend or date. For men, the most likely type of known perpetrator of sexual violence was acquaintance or neighbour

Apparently know a lot about it to
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Reply #21 - Feb 24th, 2014 at 9:52pm
 
Yes, but that is Australian statistics and not related to the violent countries the asylum seekers come from. Their war ravaged homes and lives are completely different from anything Australians have ever experienced and they need compassion to help them deal with the trauma.
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Reply #22 - Feb 24th, 2014 at 9:56pm
 
Greensprogress wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 9:52pm:
Yes, but that is Australian statistics and not related to the violent countries the asylum seekers come from. Their war ravaged homes and lives are completely different from anything Australians have ever experienced and they need compassion to help them deal with the trauma.


We get country shopping economic migrants from-
China
Iran
Pakistan

Who are they at war with?
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Leftists and the Ayatollahs have a lot in common when it comes to criticism of Islam, they don't tolerate it.
 
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Reply #23 - Feb 24th, 2014 at 10:00pm
 
They are war with the burgeoning capitalism that is sweeping their countries, but I don't think the Chinese are known for raping women. It would be the Iranians, Pakistanis and others who have been sexually repressed by their regimes. We need to put in special needs centres to help them cope with Australian life. Most of them wouldn't have seen a woman's skin.
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Reply #24 - Feb 24th, 2014 at 10:07pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 9:56pm:
Greensprogress wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 9:52pm:
Yes, but that is Australian statistics and not related to the violent countries the asylum seekers come from. Their war ravaged homes and lives are completely different from anything Australians have ever experienced and they need compassion to help them deal with the trauma.


We get country shopping economic migrants from-
China
Iran
Pakistan

Who are they at war with?

We're not at war with anyone you need guns or funds to fight a war we have neither.
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Reply #25 - Feb 24th, 2014 at 10:09pm
 
Asylum seekers are coming from war ravaged countries, silly.  Smiley
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Reply #26 - Feb 24th, 2014 at 10:14pm
 
Greensprogress wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 9:52pm:
Yes, but that is Australian statistics and not related to the violent countries the asylum seekers come from. Their war ravaged homes and lives are completely different from anything Australians have ever experienced and they need compassion to help them deal with the trauma.

Compassion separates us from the animal I thought the greens were for being one with nature.
Sorry just being silly Australia is not know for compassion not even to our own.
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Reply #27 - Feb 24th, 2014 at 10:14pm
 
Greensprogress wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 10:00pm:
They are war with the burgeoning capitalism that is sweeping their countries, but I don't think the Chinese are known for raping women. It would be the Iranians, Pakistanis and others who have been sexually repressed by their regimes. We need to put in special needs centres to help them cope with Australian life. Most of them wouldn't have seen a woman's skin.


I dont think capitalism is sweeping into Iran, when did that become a valid reason for asylum?

Who are china at war with?

Who is Pakistan at war with?

Who are you going to tax to pay for their special needs?
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Reply #28 - Feb 24th, 2014 at 10:17pm
 
Which is why we need special support systems set up for asylum seekers. You can't just dump them and see how they go. They are traumatised. We have specialist support for the returned armed services. Asylum seekers should receive something similar so they can be part of society without wanting to rape women or cause trouble.
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Reply #29 - Feb 24th, 2014 at 10:21pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 10:14pm:
Greensprogress wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 10:00pm:
They are war with the burgeoning capitalism that is sweeping their countries, but I don't think the Chinese are known for raping women. It would be the Iranians, Pakistanis and others who have been sexually repressed by their regimes. We need to put in special needs centres to help them cope with Australian life. Most of them wouldn't have seen a woman's skin.


I dont think capitalism is sweeping into Iran, when did that become a valid reason for asylum?

Who are china at war with?

Who is Pakistan at war with?

Who are you going to tax to pay for their special needs?

We could tax the armed service personnel. I think they get tax free pay, so if we tax them normally, we should have enough money to fund support services and counselling for those troubled souls who are facing sexual assault charges.
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