Kat wrote on Feb 24^th, 2014 at 9:31am:


Obviously a doyen of his alma mater with an exquisite command of the English language.....

Let's  forget the rhetoric which is resounding around here like a glacier imploding.

KRudd started the Manus Island detention centre, it was his idea and Labor's.

There has been sh.tfest on that island. This is a situation I inherited by the Liberals and they have had to deal with the almighty crap fight Labor left them.

They have done well in extremely trying circumstances.

Morrison has the most explosive portfolio in Cabinet and he is doing a bloody good job. He was misinformed as to the genesis of the riot and that was not his fault. He quickly reassessed and didn't hide the fact that he got it wrong.

What we don't have, is a literal invasion up North anymore, because Abbott has the Navy doing their job and turning back the Indonesian flotilla of Country Shoppers.

Stop bloody whingeing every time there is trouble on Manus Island. Those held there have the right to go back where they came from, they choose to stay there.

Aussie wrote on Feb 24^th, 2014 at 8:25pm:



Be so good as to point me to the bit that say we owe them permanent settlement.

Actually, don't bother looking - there is no such bit.

Who is and is not given permanent settlement in any country is not subject to convention but is entirely a matter for each sovereign nation's own laws. Anything else would b rightly seen as a gross interference in a country's self-determination.



I think it would benefit you if you actually read it. Or if you have, understood it.
As it is, you are at an unbridgeable disadvantage.

Soren wrote on Feb 27^th, 2014 at 9:32pm:

There are very few laws to obligate people to help others in trouble. The ones I know are international maritime law you must respond to an SOS call and Afghan Pashtun wali that state if some one comes your home in trouble and needs help you must help them even at risk to yourself, there is good illustration of this in the movie called" lone survivor"a true story, Pashtun wali is and Islamic law. You are are correct there is know legal obligation on us to help anyone. We can watch a murder or a rape and are not obligated to do anything most people believe when confronted with witnessing this they will do something. Most people wont do a thing we are becoming a nation of bystanders, we bear witness to wrong doing domestically and abroad a like and are generally a shiiit example to our kids.

Soren wrote on Mar 1^st, 2014 at 1:32pm:


Morrison should be charged with murder for the murder of the refugee on Manus Island.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 11:43am:

You are an idiot.

Aussie wrote on Mar 7^th, 2014 at 5:42pm:

You seem to know than anyone else - who killed him?

Who did actually kill him? Was he under instructions? Why did he kill him?

Why are you talking rubbish?

Questions, questions.

Little faith despite the fine words.
Date March 7, 2014

Mike Carlton

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/comment/little-faith-despite-the-fine-words-20140307-34cq8.html#ixzz2vMb7OM91

A friend of mine, a committed Catholic who cares for refugees in this country, sent me these inspiring words. See if you can guess who spoke them.

"From my faith, I derive the values of loving kindness, justice and righteousness, to act with compassion and kindness, acknowledging our common humanity and to consider the welfare of others; to fight for a fair go for everyone to fulfil their human potential and to remove whatever unjust obstacles stand in their way, including diminishing their personal responsibility for their own wellbeing. And to do what is right, to respect the rule of law, the sanctity of human life and the moral integrity of marriage and the family.

"We must recognise an unchanging and absolute standard of what is good and what is evil. Desmond Tutu put it this way: 'we expect Christians . . . to be those who stand up for the truth, to stand up for justice, to stand on the side of the poor and the hungry, the homeless and the naked. And when that happens, then Christians will be trustworthy, believable witnesses.' "

Any idea yet?
The speaker is a minister in Tony Abbott's cabinet.

Here's more. "My vision for Australia is for a nation that is strong, prosperous and generous. Strong in our values and our freedoms, strong in our family and community life, strong in our sense of nationhood and in the institutions that protect and preserve our democracy; prosperous in our enterprise and the careful stewardship of our opportunities, our natural environment and our resources.

"And, above all, generous in spirit; to share our good fortune with others, both at home and overseas, out of compassion and a desire for justice."

Yes, you're right. Step forward Immigration Minister Scott Morrison, whose loving, kindness and generosity of spirit shine as a guiding star to your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.

The words are from his first speech to Parliament as the new Liberal member for the Sydney seat of Cook in 2008. Are you thinking what I'm thinking, B2?