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Re: Abbott must sack Morrison: Greens
Reply #45 - Mar 8^th, 2014 at 8:18pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 8^th, 2014 at 7:49pm:

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You seem to know than anyone else - who killed him?

I know only what I read. As to who did the killing. Let's go by process of elimination. One of his Colleagues? Unlikely. One of the regular Centre security? Possible but reports suggest not. So who is left? How about the local goon squad who were (according to reports) invited into the Centre to have their evil way.

But, back to the question which is ~ what level of responsibility, Ministerial or person ought Morrison/Abbott accept? In my opinion, they each share vicarious responsibility for this death. They kept the place running, they kept the victim there, they kept G4S there, they guaranteed the safety of anyone who remained in the Centre and complied with directions.

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Who did actually kill him? Was he under instructions? Why did he kill him?

I don't know, but I can come to logical conclusions. Do you have any faith that any of the several inquiries under way (all run and controlled by vested interests) will allow us anywhere near the truth, especially given the Abbott/Morrison obsession with secrecy and cover up?

So what happened to your "those who control the centre attacked him, and killed him."?

The thing is, people like you have their brains infected with conspiracy fantasies and dark machinations theories and there is no way you will ever be able to think straight once you have been infected like that. You will want, like a junkie, to have your conspiracies confirmed and nothing else will ever do.

It's a terrible infliction and you have no way to rid yourself of it.

To imply, as you do, that the Department of Immigration or anyone else in Australia would have a hidden interest in having this person or anyone else killed is just so fvckd in the head as to render you automatically impaired for all other grown up functions.

Just ludicrous.

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Re: Abbott must sack Morrison: Greens
Reply #46 - Mar 8^th, 2014 at 8:22pm

Lobo wrote on Mar 8^th, 2014 at 7:57pm:

Little faith despite the fine words.
Date March 7, 2014

Mike Carlton

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/comment/little-faith-despite-the-fine-words-20140307-34cq8.html#ixzz2vMb7OM91

A friend of mine, a committed Catholic who cares for refugees in this country, sent me these inspiring words. See if you can guess who spoke them.

"From my faith, I derive the values of loving kindness, justice and righteousness, to act with compassion and kindness, acknowledging our common humanity and to consider the welfare of others; to fight for a fair go for everyone to fulfil their human potential and to remove whatever unjust obstacles stand in their way, including diminishing their personal responsibility for their own wellbeing. And to do what is right, to respect the rule of law, the sanctity of human life and the moral integrity of marriage and the family.

"We must recognise an unchanging and absolute standard of what is good and what is evil. Desmond Tutu put it this way: 'we expect Christians . . . to be those who stand up for the truth, to stand up for justice, to stand on the side of the poor and the hungry, the homeless and the naked. And when that happens, then Christians will be trustworthy, believable witnesses.' "

Any idea yet?
The speaker is a minister in Tony Abbott's cabinet.

Here's more. "My vision for Australia is for a nation that is strong, prosperous and generous. Strong in our values and our freedoms, strong in our family and community life, strong in our sense of nationhood and in the institutions that protect and preserve our democracy; prosperous in our enterprise and the careful stewardship of our opportunities, our natural environment and our resources.

"And, above all, generous in spirit; to share our good fortune with others, both at home and overseas, out of compassion and a desire for justice."

Yes, you're right. Step forward Immigration Minister Scott Morrison, whose loving, kindness and generosity of spirit shine as a guiding star to your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.

The words are from his first speech to Parliament as the new Liberal member for the Sydney seat of Cook in 2008. Are you thinking what I'm thinking, B2?

Huh

There is nothing in that speech that says 'I will accommodate every cheat, queue jumper and anyone who elbows his way to the front'.

Note the word 'justice'.

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Re: Abbott must sack Morrison: Greens
Reply #47 - Mar 8^th, 2014 at 9:13pm

Soren wrote on Mar 8^th, 2014 at 8:22pm:

Lobo wrote on Mar 8^th, 2014 at 7:57pm:

Little faith despite the fine words.
Date March 7, 2014

Mike Carlton

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/comment/little-faith-despite-the-fine-words-20140307-34cq8.html#ixzz2vMb7OM91

A friend of mine, a committed Catholic who cares for refugees in this country, sent me these inspiring words. See if you can guess who spoke them.

"From my faith, I derive the values of loving kindness, justice and righteousness, to act with compassion and kindness, acknowledging our common humanity and to consider the welfare of others; to fight for a fair go for everyone to fulfil their human potential and to remove whatever unjust obstacles stand in their way, including diminishing their personal responsibility for their own wellbeing. And to do what is right, to respect the rule of law, the sanctity of human life and the moral integrity of marriage and the family.

"We must recognise an unchanging and absolute standard of what is good and what is evil. Desmond Tutu put it this way: 'we expect Christians . . . to be those who stand up for the truth, to stand up for justice, to stand on the side of the poor and the hungry, the homeless and the naked. And when that happens, then Christians will be trustworthy, believable witnesses.' "

Any idea yet?
The speaker is a minister in Tony Abbott's cabinet.

Here's more. "My vision for Australia is for a nation that is strong, prosperous and generous. Strong in our values and our freedoms, strong in our family and community life, strong in our sense of nationhood and in the institutions that protect and preserve our democracy; prosperous in our enterprise and the careful stewardship of our opportunities, our natural environment and our resources.

"And, above all, generous in spirit; to share our good fortune with others, both at home and overseas, out of compassion and a desire for justice."

Yes, you're right. Step forward Immigration Minister Scott Morrison, whose loving, kindness and generosity of spirit shine as a guiding star to your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.

The words are from his first speech to Parliament as the new Liberal member for the Sydney seat of Cook in 2008. Are you thinking what I'm thinking, B2?

Huh

There is nothing in that speech that says 'I will accommodate every cheat, queue jumper and anyone who elbows his way to the front'.

Note the word 'justice'.

Did he mention Soren's forebears by name?

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Re: Abbott must sack Morrison: Greens
Reply #48 - Mar 9^th, 2014 at 8:31am

Soren wrote on Mar 8^th, 2014 at 8:18pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 8^th, 2014 at 7:49pm:

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You seem to know than anyone else - who killed him?

I know only what I read. As to who did the killing. Let's go by process of elimination. One of his Colleagues? Unlikely. One of the regular Centre security? Possible but reports suggest not. So who is left? How about the local goon squad who were (according to reports) invited into the Centre to have their evil way.

But, back to the question which is ~ what level of responsibility, Ministerial or person ought Morrison/Abbott accept? In my opinion, they each share vicarious responsibility for this death. They kept the place running, they kept the victim there, they kept G4S there, they guaranteed the safety of anyone who remained in the Centre and complied with directions.

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Who did actually kill him? Was he under instructions? Why did he kill him?

I don't know, but I can come to logical conclusions. Do you have any faith that any of the several inquiries under way (all run and controlled by vested interests) will allow us anywhere near the truth, especially given the Abbott/Morrison obsession with secrecy and cover up?

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So what happened to your "those who control the centre attacked him, and killed him."?

Nothing. It remains an option, but later material I read suggested the part they played was to open the gates to let the goon squad in.

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The thing is, people like you have their brains infected with conspiracy fantasies and dark machinations theories and there is no way you will ever be able to think straight once you have been infected like that. You will want, like a junkie, to have your conspiracies confirmed and nothing else will ever do.

It's a terrible infliction and you have no way to rid yourself of it.

I fantasised this person's death, did I?

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To imply, as you do, that the Department of Immigration or anyone else in Australia would have a hidden interest in having this person or anyone else killed is just so fvckd in the head as to render you automatically impaired for all other grown up functions.

And you accuse me of fantasy. Show me where in any post I said or remotely suggested that there was a hidden interest to cause this person's death! What I did say was ~ what level of responsibility, Ministerial or person ought Morrison/Abbott accept? In my opinion, they each share vicarious responsibility for this death. You do know what that means, yes?

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Re: Abbott must sack Morrison: Greens
Reply #49 - Mar 9^th, 2014 at 8:43am

Soren wrote on Mar 8^th, 2014 at 8:22pm:

Lobo wrote on Mar 8^th, 2014 at 7:57pm:

Little faith despite the fine words.
Date March 7, 2014

Mike Carlton

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/comment/little-faith-despite-the-fine-words-20140307-34cq8.html#ixzz2vMb7OM91

A friend of mine, a committed Catholic who cares for refugees in this country, sent me these inspiring words. See if you can guess who spoke them.

"From my faith, I derive the values of loving kindness, justice and righteousness, to act with compassion and kindness, acknowledging our common humanity and to consider the welfare of others; to fight for a fair go for everyone to fulfil their human potential and to remove whatever unjust obstacles stand in their way, including diminishing their personal responsibility for their own wellbeing. And to do what is right, to respect the rule of law, the sanctity of human life and the moral integrity of marriage and the family.

"We must recognise an unchanging and absolute standard of what is good and what is evil. Desmond Tutu put it this way: 'we expect Christians . . . to be those who stand up for the truth, to stand up for justice, to stand on the side of the poor and the hungry, the homeless and the naked. And when that happens, then Christians will be trustworthy, believable witnesses.' "

Any idea yet?
The speaker is a minister in Tony Abbott's cabinet.

Here's more. "My vision for Australia is for a nation that is strong, prosperous and generous. Strong in our values and our freedoms, strong in our family and community life, strong in our sense of nationhood and in the institutions that protect and preserve our democracy; prosperous in our enterprise and the careful stewardship of our opportunities, our natural environment and our resources.

"And, above all, generous in spirit; to share our good fortune with others, both at home and overseas, out of compassion and a desire for justice."

Yes, you're right. Step forward Immigration Minister Scott Morrison, whose loving, kindness and generosity of spirit shine as a guiding star to your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.

The words are from his first speech to Parliament as the new Liberal member for the Sydney seat of Cook in 2008. Are you thinking what I'm thinking, B2?

Huh

There is nothing in that speech that says 'I will accommodate every cheat, queue jumper and anyone who elbows his way to the front'.

Note the word 'justice'.

to act with compassion and kindness

to fight for a fair go for everyone

absolute standard of what is good and what is evil

to stand on the side of the poor and the hungry, the homeless and the naked

And, above all, generous in spirit; to share our good fortune with others, both at home and overseas

Seems that Morro is a hypocrite and that some people will attempt to excuse anything.

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Laugh till you cry Gold Member Offline Posts: 16619 In your happy place Gender:	Re: Abbott must sack Morrison: Greens Reply #50 - Mar 9^th, 2014 at 4:46pm Morrison should face the World Court for his crimes.
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38847 Gender:	Re: Abbott must sack Morrison: Greens Reply #51 - Mar 9^th, 2014 at 4:50pm Laugh till you cry wrote on Mar 9^th, 2014 at 4:46pm: Morrison should face the World Court for his crimes. The UN is looking.
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5.56_ NATO Full Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 123 Gender:	Re: Abbott must sack Morrison: Greens Reply #52 - Mar 9^th, 2014 at 7:16pm Aussie wrote on Mar 9^th, 2014 at 4:50pm: Laugh till you cry wrote on Mar 9^th, 2014 at 4:46pm: Morrison should face the World Court for his crimes. The UN is looking. At what
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38847 Gender:	Re: Abbott must sack Morrison: Greens Reply #53 - Mar 9^th, 2014 at 7:19pm 5.56_ NATO wrote on Mar 9^th, 2014 at 7:16pm: Aussie wrote on Mar 9^th, 2014 at 4:50pm: Laugh till you cry wrote on Mar 9^th, 2014 at 4:46pm: Morrison should face the World Court for his crimes. The UN is looking. At what Was that a question, or did you forget the 'full stop......' again?
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Re: Abbott must sack Morrison: Greens
Reply #54 - Mar 9^th, 2014 at 8:02pm

Taipan wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 11:19pm:

The UN is a NON-GOVERNMENTAL ORGANISATION and whatever document was signed back in 1951 certainly wasn't signed with the population knowing about it.

The UN is a rogue anti-White racist organisation created by elitists and Zionists FOR the benefit of elitists and Zionists. They are our enemies.

Nice nazi symbol fits you nicely. I'm sure lots of Australians would support that sentiment lucky we haven't got enough stupid people to follow this train of though and the ones that do live on the bones of their Ass in the slums of our cities. So you can't effect any change because you're broke stupid and out numbered. Not anti white just anti white trash the same as any other coloured trash.

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Abbott must sack Morrison: Greens Reply #55 - Mar 9^th, 2014 at 8:54pm Laugh till you cry wrote on Mar 9^th, 2014 at 4:46pm: the World Court for his crimes. There's another 40,000 year old Aboriginal/African/tinted tradition.
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Reply #56 - Mar 9^th, 2014 at 9:55pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 9^th, 2014 at 8:31am:

What I did say was ~ what level of responsibility, Ministerial or person ought Morrison/Abbott accept? In my opinion, they each share vicarious responsibility for this death. You do know what that means, yes?

You are covering your arse now.

This is nothing like what you said.
Aussie wrote on Mar 7^th, 2014 at 5:42pm:

On all reports, the victim who was murdered was in a computer room

when those who control the centre attacked him, and killed him.

Mental incontinence, that is.

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Re: Abbott must sack Morrison: Greens
Reply #57 - Mar 10^th, 2014 at 6:13pm

Soren wrote on Mar 9^th, 2014 at 9:55pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 9^th, 2014 at 8:31am:

What I did say was ~ what level of responsibility, Ministerial or person ought Morrison/Abbott accept? In my opinion, they each share vicarious responsibility for this death. You do know what that means, yes?

You are covering your arse now.

This is nothing like what you said.
Aussie wrote on Mar 7^th, 2014 at 5:42pm:

On all reports, the victim who was murdered was in a computer room

when those who control the centre attacked him, and killed him.

Mental incontinence, that is.

I'm gonna have to keep a weather eye on you Soren given what is an obvious propensity to outrageously misrepresent what Posters have actually said in total context. Taking just one sentence out of a paragraph as you have done is malicious as far as I am concerned.

Roll Eyes

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5.56_ NATO Full Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 123 Gender:	Re: Abbott must sack Morrison: Greens Reply #58 - Mar 10^th, 2014 at 6:42pm Aussie wrote on Mar 9^th, 2014 at 4:50pm: Laugh till you cry wrote on Mar 9^th, 2014 at 4:46pm: Morrison should face the World Court for his crimes. The UN is looking. So rooster, have they "seen" anything yet when it comes to outrageously misrepresenting facts ..YOU DA MAN
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Re: Abbott must sack Morrison: Greens
Reply #59 - Mar 10^th, 2014 at 7:27pm

Greensprogress wrote on Feb 24^th, 2014 at 10:09pm:

Asylum seekers are coming from war ravaged countries, silly.

Who's China, Pakistan or Iran been at war with lately, like in the past three decades?
Silly.
The country shoppers are getting no traction out of Morrison or the Coalition.
He's staying right where he is in the job he does best.
The Greens are nothing but landfill material.
They are only distressed because Morrison's policy works.

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