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Reply #120 - Feb 26^th, 2014 at 3:02pm

Lobo wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 1:16pm:

cods wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 9:06am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 8:49am:

Just for dumbsmithy:

Lt Gen Campbell was chosen because of his experience. He was commander of Australian military operations in the Middle East and served in East Timor. He has also served as Deputy National Security Adviser. In short, he was chosen because he has the experience and gets things done. Whether there is another Naval officer who has similar experience, who knows? But clearly he was chosen because he has the experience for this type of operation.

isnt it anarchy if a military persons disobeys his commander in chief who happens to be the PM of the day?.. anyway.. and yet some mongrels call him a prostitute...but then I guess a leftie would know the meaning of that wouldnt they??..

how sad how bloody sad. Sad

Wrong again, cods, on all counts....
But let's concentrate on CIC.....

THE GOVERNOR-GENERAL AS COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF

“The command in chief of the naval and military forces of the Commonwealth is vested in the Governor-General as the Queen’s representative” – so runs s.68 of our Constitution, unaltered since 1900; indeed changed only as to two words, neither of any consequence, since the first draft of the Constitution was adopted at the initial convention of founding fathers on 9 April 1891, ninety-two years ago.

And the words seem clear and unambiguous enough – “The command in chief … is vested in the Governor-General”:

no mention of Chiefs of Staff, none of Ministers for Defence, of Cabinet or of Prime Minister.

Do try to get it right.....

well lets put it this way..... for the nongs on here..

what I meant was the govt tells our generals what to do... not the other way round...

do you disagree that the G>G> doesnt not give orders for WAR..

at least I havent heard of any lefty blaming the GG for us going to war in Iraq... maybe yous all got it wrong after all..

but split hairs.. seems to be all you have got. and I feel sorry for you.....so the PM is not called the Commander in CHief..big deal.

so what then is the title given to the PM..

we know they have a Minister of Defence...

but surely the PM of the day takes precedent over that person???>..

well I think that was the case before the basket case of labor.. so anything goes now does it?

oh thats right all you have is conroy... Grin

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Reply #121 - Feb 26^th, 2014 at 3:23pm

Lobo wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 1:47pm:

Normally I wouldn't reply to crap, but in your case I'll make an exception.....

Now come clean, Ol-tossil!

Are you a 3-star General, or Third Assistant Dixie-Basher???

Just so you will feel better, you can have the last say.......

Grin

Still trying to big note yourself. Grin

You are a nobody, I do not answer questions from little sh1t lids like yourself.

Now run along little boy, you're annoy the adults.

BTW genius we don't use the 'star system' in our defence force, you got that from watching too many american war movies, giving you a false belief you know what the frig you are talking about. Grin

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Reply #122 - Feb 26^th, 2014 at 3:25pm

Dnarever wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 2:17pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 1:48pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 1:34pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 1:24pm:

Im pretty sure that is abbotts plan

Pretty sure your right
So much for open transparent government
Much like the kinder gentler polarity

Deceitful PRICK Angry

Isn't that why we hated Gillard?
Deceit?

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 1:24pm:

Operation Floating Bodies

To cute by 1/2

As tragic as it is, those floating bodies were not under the Australian Governments care

However this person was, & as already discussed he had not absconded but was within an Australian Facility.

I don't disagree, but I have a serious problem with these idiots sticking it to the General in charge of the op, especially when they a frggen clueless of what is going on. If they are angry and frustrated, fine, whinge to a pollie, but as far as this "toy soldier" sh1t; it is unacceptable.

I have a serious problem with these idiots sticking it to the General

The guy is in a senate hearing refusing to answer reasonable questions.

Yeah, already explained this at least a couple of times.

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Reply #123 - Feb 26^th, 2014 at 3:28pm

ian wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 2:30pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 1:20pm:

ian wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 12:56pm:

i dont see anything wrong with Conroys questioning of Campbell. The boat people issue is not a defence issue, it is a enforcement or police issue. The fact that we are using the miltiary for this doesnt alter the facts, this is not a defence issue, by Campbell agreeing to command this operation he has automatically put his hand up to scrutiny of his actions. He needs to stop crying like a baby, so do the other Conroy detractors. Thank god we have poltiicans like Conroy who do ask inconvenient questions.

Accusing a leading Army General of a 'cover up' is not an'inconvenient question', otherwise that little POS would not have to retract it and give an appology.

Im more than happy to get the cops and a bunch of snivelly leftards out doing this job instead of the Navy and the RAAF.

Any volunteers. Grin

Maybe just sit on your couch and throw sh1t is more to your abilities Angry

Campbell has agreed to conduct and command what is essentialy a police operation. we were always going to need the ADF as a resource but the Federal police should be leading this, not a military general. Perhaps Campbell saw this as some sort of poltiical opportunity, I dont know. But he jumped into the frying pan willingly.

Well considering there are no police doing the work being done by the RAN and the RAAF, maybe they should just take over, too easy.

It's not like either the RAAF or the RAN would lose any sleep over not baby sitting reffos all day.

And once again I will have to call bullsh1t on Campbells supposed political aspirations; unless you have proof of course. Asked to do a job and is doing it supurbly

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Reply #124 - Feb 26^th, 2014 at 3:38pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 2:07pm:

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I don't disagree, but I have a serious problem with these idiots sticking it to the General in charge of the op, especially when they a frggen clueless of what is going on. If they are angry and frustrated, fine, whinge to a pollie, but as far as this "toy soldier" sh1t; it is unacceptable.

I haven't called him a 'toy soldier,' but I have said (notwithstanding an outstanding military career including with the SAS) he has behaved like a whiney limp wristed cry baby who has run of to Mummy whingeing that a boogie man said "Boo!" I have also said that he has allowed himself to become the LNP's ADF 'Uncle Tom.'

This is not a military operation even though Abbott has done all he can to make it appear as though it was one with tags like Operation Sovereign Borders. It is an immigration asylum seeker issue. It is an appalling debasement of the ADF that it would, through this Uncle Tom, allow itself to be seen as closely politically aligned with Government policy. Then, when the same bloke is before Senate Estimates, and he is asked a question, he refuses to answer. What the hell did he expect in that situation, and it was perfectly appropriate that Conroy would tell him he is covering up.

He should have stayed out of the political kitchen.

You people seem to talk with great authority about a subject that you know less than nothing about.

But that is the leftard way I suppose.

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Reply #125 - Feb 26^th, 2014 at 3:42pm

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 3:38pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 2:07pm:

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I don't disagree, but I have a serious problem with these idiots sticking it to the General in charge of the op, especially when they a frggen clueless of what is going on. If they are angry and frustrated, fine, whinge to a pollie, but as far as this "toy soldier" sh1t; it is unacceptable.

I haven't called him a 'toy soldier,' but I have said (notwithstanding an outstanding military career including with the SAS) he has behaved like a whiney limp wristed cry baby who has run of to Mummy whingeing that a boogie man said "Boo!" I have also said that he has allowed himself to become the LNP's ADF 'Uncle Tom.'

This is not a military operation even though Abbott has done all he can to make it appear as though it was one with tags like Operation Sovereign Borders. It is an immigration asylum seeker issue. It is an appalling debasement of the ADF that it would, through this Uncle Tom, allow itself to be seen as closely politically aligned with Government policy. Then, when the same bloke is before Senate Estimates, and he is asked a question, he refuses to answer. What the hell did he expect in that situation, and it was perfectly appropriate that Conroy would tell him he is covering up.

He should have stayed out of the political kitchen.

You people seems to talk with great authority about a subject that you know less than nothing about.

But that is the leftard way I suppose.

I know far more about this than you will ever know about this, Sunshine.

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Reply #126 - Feb 26^th, 2014 at 3:45pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 3:42pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 3:38pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 2:07pm:

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I don't disagree, but I have a serious problem with these idiots sticking it to the General in charge of the op, especially when they a frggen clueless of what is going on. If they are angry and frustrated, fine, whinge to a pollie, but as far as this "toy soldier" sh1t; it is unacceptable.

I haven't called him a 'toy soldier,' but I have said (notwithstanding an outstanding military career including with the SAS) he has behaved like a whiney limp wristed cry baby who has run of to Mummy whingeing that a boogie man said "Boo!" I have also said that he has allowed himself to become the LNP's ADF 'Uncle Tom.'

This is not a military operation even though Abbott has done all he can to make it appear as though it was one with tags like Operation Sovereign Borders. It is an immigration asylum seeker issue. It is an appalling debasement of the ADF that it would, through this Uncle Tom, allow itself to be seen as closely politically aligned with Government policy. Then, when the same bloke is before Senate Estimates, and he is asked a question, he refuses to answer. What the hell did he expect in that situation, and it was perfectly appropriate that Conroy would tell him he is covering up.

He should have stayed out of the political kitchen.

You people seems to talk with great authority about a subject that you know less than nothing about.

But that is the leftard way I suppose.

I know far more about this than you will ever know about this, Sunshine.

You will have to demonstrate that, because you have shown the complete opposite so far. A cluelessness that is beyond compare.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 106960 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Conroy is a grub Reply #127 - Feb 26^th, 2014 at 3:45pm Conroy has the guts to say - "the emperor has no clothes."
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Reply #128 - Feb 26^th, 2014 at 3:51pm

Greensprogress wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 3:45pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 3:42pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 3:38pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 2:07pm:

Quote:

I don't disagree, but I have a serious problem with these idiots sticking it to the General in charge of the op, especially when they a frggen clueless of what is going on. If they are angry and frustrated, fine, whinge to a pollie, but as far as this "toy soldier" sh1t; it is unacceptable.

I haven't called him a 'toy soldier,' but I have said (notwithstanding an outstanding military career including with the SAS) he has behaved like a whiney limp wristed cry baby who has run of to Mummy whingeing that a boogie man said "Boo!" I have also said that he has allowed himself to become the LNP's ADF 'Uncle Tom.'

This is not a military operation even though Abbott has done all he can to make it appear as though it was one with tags like Operation Sovereign Borders. It is an immigration asylum seeker issue. It is an appalling debasement of the ADF that it would, through this Uncle Tom, allow itself to be seen as closely politically aligned with Government policy. Then, when the same bloke is before Senate Estimates, and he is asked a question, he refuses to answer. What the hell did he expect in that situation, and it was perfectly appropriate that Conroy would tell him he is covering up.

He should have stayed out of the political kitchen.

You people seems to talk with great authority about a subject that you know less than nothing about.

But that is the leftard way I suppose.

I know far more about this than you will ever know about this, Sunshine.

You will have to demonstrate that, because you have shown the complete opposite so far. A cluelessness that is beyond compare.

Enjoy you last moments NOIQ, for soon enough, this sock of yours will be banned.

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Greensprogress Full Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 112 Gender:	Re: Conroy is a grub Reply #129 - Feb 26^th, 2014 at 3:53pm I have no idea what you are talking about, but I do notice a similar pattern from your lefty brethren with sock accusations when youve been caught out and your idiocy is in full display. Enjoy that.
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Reply #130 - Feb 26^th, 2014 at 3:55pm

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 3:23pm:

Lobo wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 1:47pm:

Normally I wouldn't reply to crap, but in your case I'll make an exception.....

Now come clean, Ol-tossil!

Are you a 3-star General, or Third Assistant Dixie-Basher???

Just so you will feel better, you can have the last say.......

Grin

Still trying to big note yourself. Grin

NO!! Don't have to, unlike yourself.

You are a nobody, I do not answer questions from little sh1t lids like yourself.

O.K. You are a 'Third Assistant Dixie- Basher'.

Now run along little boy, you're annoy the adults.

That's right the adults are in charge.....

BTW genius we don't use the 'star system' in our defence force, you got that from watching too many american war movies, giving you a false belief you know what the frig you are talking about. Grin

No, Flopdick....3-Star came from Abbott and Morrison.
I questioned their usage, so I did a bit of research.
Suggest you do the same.....

Brigadier (BRIG)

Brigadier Rank Insignia
Brigadiers command at the Brigade level and are also Directors General within Army Headquarters and non-Army groups. They are responsible for branches within the headquarters such as Personnel, Operations and Career Management. The rank of Brigadier is referred to as ‘one star’ rank.

Major General (MAJGEN)

Major General Rank Insignia
Major Generals command formations of division size, or equivalent, and hold senior executive appointments within the Department of Defence such as Special Operations Commander - Australia. The rank of Major General is referred to as ‘two star’ rank.
Lieutenant General (LTGEN)

Lieutenant General Insignia
Lieutenant General is the second-highest active rank in the Australian Army. The Rank of Lieutenant General is held by the Chief of Army, currently Lieutenant General David Morrison AO. The rank is also held when an Army Officer is the Vice Chief of the Defence Force, the Chief of Joint Operations, or the Chief of Capability Development. The rank of Lieutenant General is referred to as ‘three star’ rank.

General (GEN)

General Rank Insignia
General is the highest active rank of the Australian Army. The rank of General is only held when an Army Officer is appointed as the Chief of the Defence Force, currently held by General David Hurley AC, DSC. The rank of General is referred to as ‘four star’ rank.

http://www.army.gov.au/Who-we-are/Ranks/Officer-Ranks

Now, child, stop annoying everyone....

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Reply #131 - Feb 26^th, 2014 at 4:00pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 3:42pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 3:38pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 2:07pm:

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I don't disagree, but I have a serious problem with these idiots sticking it to the General in charge of the op, especially when they a frggen clueless of what is going on. If they are angry and frustrated, fine, whinge to a pollie, but as far as this "toy soldier" sh1t; it is unacceptable.

I haven't called him a 'toy soldier,' but I have said (notwithstanding an outstanding military career including with the SAS) he has behaved like a whiney limp wristed cry baby who has run of to Mummy whingeing that a boogie man said "Boo!" I have also said that he has allowed himself to become the LNP's ADF 'Uncle Tom.'

This is not a military operation even though Abbott has done all he can to make it appear as though it was one with tags like Operation Sovereign Borders. It is an immigration asylum seeker issue. It is an appalling debasement of the ADF that it would, through this Uncle Tom, allow itself to be seen as closely politically aligned with Government policy. Then, when the same bloke is before Senate Estimates, and he is asked a question, he refuses to answer. What the hell did he expect in that situation, and it was perfectly appropriate that Conroy would tell him he is covering up.

He should have stayed out of the political kitchen.

You people seems to talk with great authority about a subject that you know less than nothing about.

But that is the leftard way I suppose.

I know far more about this than you will ever know about this, Sunshine.

Yes this board is full of left wing 'military experts' who never served a day in their lives, but know more about everything than those who have.

Please regal us with your tactical and strategic understanding of current military doctrine as it it applies to the ADF, it should be a hoot.

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BigOl64 Gold Member Offline Posts: 14438 Townsville QLD Gender:	Re: Conroy is a grub Reply #132 - Feb 26^th, 2014 at 4:01pm Bobby. wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 3:45pm: Conroy has the guts to say - "the emperor has no clothes." And 10 minutes later recide the inflamatory and false statment and appologise. This title is an understatement of his lowly character
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 106960 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Conroy is a grub Reply #133 - Feb 26^th, 2014 at 4:05pm BigOl64 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 4:01pm: Bobby. wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 3:45pm: Conroy has the guts to say - "the emperor has no clothes." And 10 minutes later recide the inflamatory and false statment and appologise. This title is an understatement of his lowly character Don't you mean rescind?
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Reply #134 - Feb 26^th, 2014 at 4:17pm

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 4:01pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 3:45pm:

Conroy has the guts to say - "the emperor has no clothes."

And 10 minutes later recide the inflamatory and false statment and appologise.

This title is an understatement of his lowly character

No apology was given. Get your facts right, Sunshine.

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