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Reply #15 - Feb 28^th, 2014 at 8:45am

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 27^th, 2014 at 12:57pm:

wally1 wrote on Feb 27^th, 2014 at 11:50am:

Just scare mongering.

Russia also said Sochi will be attacked but nothing happened.RUssia just making excuse to keep up its attacks on the chechnean people.

We can only wish the Russians the best of luck in this endeavour. Those Muslim southern provinces have been the traditional source of Russia's most persistent and Usual Suspect criminals in its big cities.

It's something like the Usual Suspect Muslims that our Sydney police are continually carting off to our criminal courts for a judgement.

wally1 wrote on Feb 27^th, 2014 at 11:50am:

There is no way determining how many people from other countries are in Syria.GOvernments are making up numbers.No flights get into Syria,the only way to get in is through Lebanon or turkey.

These Warriors for Islam will be returning to Australia soon enough. They aren't there for patriotic reasons, as most of them are from Lebanon or elsewhere. So it hasn't been a matter of rallying to help the ancestral homeland. It's been all about installing a strict code of Islam in Syria upon the removal of the current tyrant.

Installing one tyranny for another, you could say.

Enjoy the rest of your day, Wally One. Cool

The first person convicted of terrorism in Aus Zak Mallah frequently travels back and forth from Aus to Syria.ANd the government worries about terrorism?

Zak mentions he didn't meet any Aussies in Syria.
There are no statistics on who is going to Syria.MOst Aussies who have died in Syria wasn't on the battle field.

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Reply #16 - Feb 28^th, 2014 at 9:55am

wally1 wrote on Feb 28^th, 2014 at 8:45am:

There are no statistics on who is going to Syria.MOst Aussies who have died in Syria wasn't on the battle field.

Indeed. My guess is the vast majority of people who go over to "help" in Syria are non-combatants working with humanitarian agencies in refugee camps. Its probably just as dangerous - if not more.

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #17 - Feb 28^th, 2014 at 10:11am

wally1 wrote on Feb 28^th, 2014 at 8:45am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 27^th, 2014 at 12:57pm:

wally1 wrote on Feb 27^th, 2014 at 11:50am:

Just scare mongering.

Russia also said Sochi will be attacked but nothing happened.RUssia just making excuse to keep up its attacks on the chechnean people.

We can only wish the Russians the best of luck in this endeavour. Those Muslim southern provinces have been the traditional source of Russia's most persistent and Usual Suspect criminals in its big cities.

It's something like the Usual Suspect Muslims that our Sydney police are continually carting off to our criminal courts for a judgement.

wally1 wrote on Feb 27^th, 2014 at 11:50am:

There is no way determining how many people from other countries are in Syria.GOvernments are making up numbers.No flights get into Syria,the only way to get in is through Lebanon or turkey.

These Warriors for Islam will be returning to Australia soon enough. They aren't there for patriotic reasons, as most of them are from Lebanon or elsewhere. So it hasn't been a matter of rallying to help the ancestral homeland. It's been all about installing a strict code of Islam in Syria upon the removal of the current tyrant.

Installing one tyranny for another, you could say.

Enjoy the rest of your day, Wally One. Cool

The first person convicted of terrorism in Aus Zak Mallah frequently travels back and forth from Aus to Syria.ANd the government worries about terrorism?

Zak mentions he didn't meet any Aussies in Syria.

There are no statistics on who is going to Syria.

MOst Aussies who have died in Syria wasn't on the battle field.

wally1,

Everything that a moslem tells us about;
1/ ISLAM,
2/ the behaviour of moslems,
3/ the motives of moslems
- has absolutely no credibility.

And more so, and more so, day after day after day.

Why so ?

Because the constant blatant denials [of what is true], and constant blatant lies of moslems [in the face of evidence to the contrary], is destroying every skerrick of credibility, of the information and the 'protestations', emanating from the moslem 'camp'.

In short; Moslems are inveterate LIARS.

....and this is information about the character of all moslems, is becoming widely understood and known.

"Dear muslim, YOU are the kuffar"

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1229682951/0#0
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You who embrace ISLAM, your own lies and deception, have become a witness against you, before God......

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: "But it's NOTHING to do with Islam ~ you fools!" Reply #18 - Feb 28^th, 2014 at 10:17am Yadda wrote on Feb 28^th, 2014 at 10:11am: Everything that a moslem tells us about; 1/ ISLAM, 2/ the behaviour of moslems, 3/ the motives of moslems - has absolutely no credibility. Except of course when its expressed through placards at a London protest.
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Reply #19 - Feb 28^th, 2014 at 10:24am

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 28^th, 2014 at 10:17am:

Yadda wrote on Feb 28^th, 2014 at 10:11am:

Everything that a moslem tells us about;
1/ ISLAM,
2/ the behaviour of moslems,
3/ the motives of moslems
- has absolutely no credibility.

Except of course when its expressed through placards at a London protest.

Exactly so, gandalf. Wink

gandalf,

In some unguarded moments, yes, moslems do reveal what is true.

And gandalf,

isn't what those moslems reveal, truly shocking,

to a person such as yourself, a person who supports pluralism ?

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London, mainstream moslem street protests.
Moslems 'demonstrating' just how rational and 'peaceful' mainstream moslems really are.

THOSE PLACARDS, AT A MOSLEM STREET PROTEST IN LONDON READ.....

"Slay those who insult Islam"
"Behead those who insult Islam"
"Massacre those who insult Islam"
"Butcher those who mock Islam"
"Europe you will pay, demolition is on its way"
"Europe you will pay, extermination is on its way"
"Exterminate those who slander Islam"
"Europe is the cancer, Islam is the answer"
"Islam will dominate the world"
"Freedom go to hell"
"Europe take some lessons from 9/11"
"Be prepared for the real Holocaust"
"BBC = British Blasphemic Crusaders"

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Reply #20 - Feb 28^th, 2014 at 10:36am

Yadda wrote on Feb 28^th, 2014 at 10:24am:

In some unguarded moments, yes, moslems do reveal what is true.

Those protestors, straight from the 'islam4peace' bus, had not the slightest inkling whatsoever that waving beheading placards down the main street of London would be seized upon by islamophobes the world over, and posted ad-infinitum on islamophobic boards. They just thought it was a closed-door private meeting between muslims.

As you say, a completely unguarded moment.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #21 - Feb 28^th, 2014 at 10:41am

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 28^th, 2014 at 10:36am:

Yadda wrote on Feb 28^th, 2014 at 10:24am:

In some unguarded moments, yes, moslems do reveal what is true.

Those protestors, straight from the 'islam4peace' bus, had not the slightest inkling whatsoever that waving beheading placards down the main street of London would be seized upon by islamophobes the world over, and posted ad-infinitum on islamophobic boards. They just thought it was a closed-door private meeting between muslims.

As you say, a completely unguarded moment.

So it's the islamophobes mistake that they caught a bunch of Muslims holding up beheading placards. There's nothing wrong with beheading placards hey. CAN'T MUSLIM HAVE A PRIVATE MOMENT TO HOLD UP A BEHEADING POSTER PLEASE!!!!

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Reply #22 - Feb 28^th, 2014 at 10:58am

Yadda wrote on Feb 28^th, 2014 at 10:11am:

wally1 wrote on Feb 28^th, 2014 at 8:45am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 27^th, 2014 at 12:57pm:

wally1 wrote on Feb 27^th, 2014 at 11:50am:

Just scare mongering.

Russia also said Sochi will be attacked but nothing happened.RUssia just making excuse to keep up its attacks on the chechnean people.

We can only wish the Russians the best of luck in this endeavour. Those Muslim southern provinces have been the traditional source of Russia's most persistent and Usual Suspect criminals in its big cities.

It's something like the Usual Suspect Muslims that our Sydney police are continually carting off to our criminal courts for a judgement.

wally1 wrote on Feb 27^th, 2014 at 11:50am:

There is no way determining how many people from other countries are in Syria.GOvernments are making up numbers.No flights get into Syria,the only way to get in is through Lebanon or turkey.

These Warriors for Islam will be returning to Australia soon enough. They aren't there for patriotic reasons, as most of them are from Lebanon or elsewhere. So it hasn't been a matter of rallying to help the ancestral homeland. It's been all about installing a strict code of Islam in Syria upon the removal of the current tyrant.

Installing one tyranny for another, you could say.

Enjoy the rest of your day, Wally One. Cool

The first person convicted of terrorism in Aus Zak Mallah frequently travels back and forth from Aus to Syria.ANd the government worries about terrorism?

Zak mentions he didn't meet any Aussies in Syria.

There are no statistics on who is going to Syria.

MOst Aussies who have died in Syria wasn't on the battle field.

wally1,

Everything that a moslem tells us about;
1/ ISLAM,
2/ the behaviour of moslems,
3/ the motives of moslems
- has absolutely no credibility.

And more so, and more so, day after day after day.

Why so ?

Because the constant blatant denials [of what is true], and constant blatant lies of moslems [in the face of evidence to the contrary], is destroying every skerrick of credibility, of the information and the 'protestations', emanating from the moslem 'camp'.

In short; Moslems are inveterate LIARS.

....and this is information about the character of all moslems, is becoming widely understood and known.

"Dear muslim, YOU are the kuffar"

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1229682951/0#0
Quote:

You who embrace ISLAM, your own lies and deception, have become a witness against you, before God......

And your credible?

Bible full of mistakes,errors,contradictions, omissions.

How does god make so much mistakes? Who follows a book full of errors and mistakes?

Why does god only have a son? Why not a daughter? Christianity ideology just illogic.

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: "But it's NOTHING to do with Islam ~ you fools!" Reply #23 - Feb 28^th, 2014 at 11:17am wally1 wrote on Feb 28^th, 2014 at 10:58am: Why does god only have a son? Why not a daughter? Christianity ideology just illogic. Why are there no women prophets in any of the Abrahamic religions?
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Reply #24 - Feb 28^th, 2014 at 11:31am

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 28^th, 2014 at 9:55am:

wally1 wrote on Feb 28^th, 2014 at 8:45am:

There are no statistics on who is going to Syria.MOst Aussies who have died in Syria wasn't on the battle field.

Indeed. My guess is the vast majority of people who go over to "help" in Syria are non-combatants working with humanitarian agencies in refugee camps. Its probably just as dangerous - if not more.

They are all supporting al-Qaeda associated rebel militias as combat front-liners or as support staff behind the lines. And their intention is to see Syria come under the dictates of an anti-American, anti-Western hardline Islamic theocracy.

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WITH an arm rested on a ute-mounted heavy machine-gun while the flag of al-Qa'ida offshoot the Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham waves next to him, Australian man Mohammed Ayub smiles wildly and poses for a battlefront photo in Syria.

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THE number of passports cancelled on national security grounds has almost trebled, amid reports another Australian has been killed in the fighting in Syria.

Speculation intensified yesterday that Ahmad Moussalli, apparently from Sydney, had been “martyred” in Syria, making him the ninth Australian known to have been killed in the two-year conflict.

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Australian intelligence officials believe about 100 to 120 Australians are actively involved in the fighting.

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UP to 120 Australians fighting in the Syrian civil war and learning deadly skills which could be used on their return are being funded by Muslim communities here collecting money for humanitarian aid.

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The head of Australia's domestic intelligence agency has confirmed investigations into hundreds of young Australian-Lebanese men who have joined the fighting in Syria.

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Reply #25 - Feb 28^th, 2014 at 12:02pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 28^th, 2014 at 11:31am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 28^th, 2014 at 9:55am:

wally1 wrote on Feb 28^th, 2014 at 8:45am:

There are no statistics on who is going to Syria.MOst Aussies who have died in Syria wasn't on the battle field.

Indeed. My guess is the vast majority of people who go over to "help" in Syria are non-combatants working with humanitarian agencies in refugee camps. Its probably just as dangerous - if not more.

They are all supporting al-Qaeda associated rebel militias as combat front-liners or as support staff behind the lines. And their intention is to see Syria come under the dictates of an anti-American, anti-Western hardline Islamic theocracy.

What, to replace an anti-Amerikan, anti-Western hardline totalitarian regime?

I doubt it. My guess is most of the people going into Syria are doing so as Syrians. This, by the way, is no different from your guess that they are going in as Al Qaida militants.

Al Qaida are not the only organization opposing government forces in Syria. They are one of many. This conflict is not as simplistic as Islamic theocrats opposing Amerika and the west. Mr Abbott himself typified it as "baddies versus baddies".

Many of the opposition groups in Syria are liberal-demokrats. Some are Marxists. It's a hodge-podge resistance with no clear end in sight.

The Al Assad forces could prevail. The opposition forces could prevail. If they win, a power vacuum could see any force take control, but what's also likely, looking at the region's history, is another civil war.

This, remember, is why the realists in the White House left their men in place. Saddam, Morsi, and, when he joined the "War on Terror", even Ghaddafi.

George Bush Junior overturned three decades of Kissengeresque foreign policy, and in doing so, caused most of the problems in the Middle East today. The invasion of Iraq decimated the Baathist power structures in Iraq and created endless civil war. The US's defeat saw opposition groups rise throughout the region, facilitated the Arab Spring, and saw the rise of a new hold on Middle Eastern power: Iran and the Shi'ites.

After Iraq, there is no reason for militias in the Middle East to be Anti-Amerikan. The Amerikans are out of this one. The tectonic plates are shifting. The new powers in the Middle East are Iran and Russia - exactly what the US have been trying to avoid all these years.

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Reply #26 - Feb 28^th, 2014 at 12:23pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 28^th, 2014 at 11:17am:

wally1 wrote on Feb 28^th, 2014 at 10:58am:

Why does god only have a son? Why not a daughter? Christianity ideology just illogic.

Why are there no women prophets in any of the Abrahamic religions? Wink

Are you sure, gandalf ?

Joel 2:28
And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:
29 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.
30 And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.
31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.
32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered
: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.

Exodus 15:20
And Miriam the prophetess, the sister of Aaron, took a timbrel in her hand; and all the women went out after her with timbrels and with dances.

Judges 4:4
And Deborah, a prophetess, the wife of Lapidoth, she judged Israel at that time.

2 Kings 22:14
So Hilkiah the priest, and Ahikam, and Achbor, and Shaphan, and Asahiah, went unto Huldah the prophetess, the wife of Shallum the son of Tikvah, the son of Harhas, keeper of the wardrobe; (now she dwelt in Jerusalem in the college;) and they communed with her.

2 Chronicles 34:22
And Hilkiah, and they that the king had appointed, went to Huldah the prophetess, the wife of Shallum the son of Tikvath, the son of Hasrah, keeper of the wardrobe; (now she dwelt in Jerusalem in the college:) and they spake to her to that effect.

Nehemiah 6:14
My God, think thou upon Tobiah and Sanballat according to these their works, and on the prophetess Noadiah, and the rest of the prophets, that would have put me in fear.

Luke 2:36
And there was one Anna, a prophetess, the daughter of Phanuel, of the tribe of Aser: she was of a great age, and had lived with an husband seven years from her virginity;

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Reply #28 - Feb 28^th, 2014 at 12:34pm

wally1 wrote on Feb 28^th, 2014 at 10:58am:

Bible full of mistakes,errors,contradictions, omissions.

How does god make so much mistakes? Who follows a book full of errors and mistakes?

Why does god only have a son? Why not a daughter? Christianity ideology just illogic.

wally1,

You seem so certain.

My God has [spiritual] sons and [spiritual] daughters.

God [the creator] in scripture describes mankind, as his created 'children'.

Deuteronomy 32:19
And when the LORD saw it, he abhorred them, because of the provoking of his sons, and of his daughters.

Isaiah 1:2
Hear, O heavens, and give ear, O earth: for the LORD hath spoken, I have nourished and brought up children, and they have rebelled against me.

Jeremiah 4:22
For my people is foolish, they have not known me; they are sottish children, and they have none understanding: they are wise to do evil, but to do good they have no knowledge.

Acts 17:28
For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.

wally1,

Do you refuse to accept this information ?

If you refuse to open your heart, to God's truth, then you will remain in [spiritual] darkness - in this life, and in the next.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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