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Reply #60 - Mar 1^st, 2014 at 2:01pm

Soren wrote on Mar 1^st, 2014 at 10:35am:

Karnal wrote on Feb 28^th, 2014 at 8:59pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 28^th, 2014 at 8:52pm:

[quote author=wally1 link=1393368776/38#38 date=1393574826]

The Arabs created Allah in their own image - capricious, irrational, sensuous, unpredicatable.

Exactly. As do all who worship Gud.

Interesting though that you came to your revelation about Amerikan puppet regimes only after the US failed in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Back in 2001, you were the loudest crusader of all.

Personally, I think America and the West went wrong from the minute they decided to pull their punches.
If you go to war you should be prepared to keep killing them until THEY know they are beaten. Otherwise don't bother. The mistake -mine included (oh how idealistic we all were in the 80s and 90s) - was to imagine that people are all the same around the world, with similar values, hopes and ideals.

No, you simply thought they’d kowtow to Uncle’s "surgical" strikes and.military might.

Indeed. How idealistic.

You think Amerika wasn’t prepared to keep killing until the enemy said Uncle? Amerika was well and truly licked in Faluja. It ultimately prevailed there, but the US lost momentum, hope, and the will of its own people to keep fighting an unwinnable, and pointless, war.

Ultimately, it lacked the funds to keep going. The endless "surges", which achieved some initial success, were knocked on the head when Bush lost popular support and Rumsfeld was given the axe.

Amerika was fighting an invisible enemy. It could.never win. Raiding homes, killing women and children, and shooting cameramen - and their rescuers - from helicopters, is hardly the sign of the US military going soft. The US put everything it had into Iraq, and it’s military and administrative bungling caused it to lose.

The aim was to depose Saddam and create a stable US foothold in the Middle East. Instead, the US created a state of civil war and indefinite instability in the world’s primary source of oil.

And it allowed its enemy Iran to sieze the balance of power.

Always, absolutely, never ever. Your "idealism" was pointed out for what it was prior to 2003. Instead of taking note, you engaged in an orgy of cheap platitudes and blood.

You should learn to listen more, old boy, but you won’t. The ultimate folly of the old boy is his inability to learn from history. He confuses ignorance with strength.

Without the ability to reason, speculate, plan and yield when the circumstances require, the old boy rants, nashes and foams at the mouth. He is a sheep in wolve’s clothing.

And he calls this idealism.

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Reply #61 - Mar 1^st, 2014 at 3:49pm

And this is why I sad IF you go to war. And that idealism about their corrigibility was a mistake.

It is now better to let them bleed each other, as it happens in Egypt, Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Labya, Somalia, Iran. The West's only interest in Islam's civil war - for that is exactly what is happening - is that both sides should lose.
There is no cuddly, democratic, life-affirming Islam.

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Reply #62 - Mar 1^st, 2014 at 4:12pm

Soren wrote on Mar 1^st, 2014 at 3:49pm:

And this is why I sad IF you go to war. And that idealism about their corrigibility was a mistake.

It is now better to let them bleed each other, as it happens in Egypt, Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Labya, Somalia, Iran. The West's only interest in Islam's civil war - for that is exactly what is happening - is that both sides should lose.
There is no cuddly, democratic, life-affirming Islam.

Exactly.

It's not for nothing that Christians here in Sydney who are of Middle Eastern appearance display a crucifix prominently hanging from their rear-view mirrors or as necklaces to distance themselves from their barbarian cousins.

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Reply #63 - Mar 1^st, 2014 at 4:37pm

Soren wrote on Mar 1^st, 2014 at 3:49pm:

And this is why I sad IF you go to war. And that idealism about their corrigibility was a mistake.

It is now better to let them bleed each other, as it happens in Egypt, Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Labya, Somalia, Iran.

This is old boy wisdom at its most profound. The Middle East is the world’s source of fuel. Control of the oil has given the US its economic and geopolitical power, from WWII on.

The very role of the global hegemon is to police the world’s supply of energy. It’s why Amerika keeps the world’s biggest bastards, the Saudis, in power: Uncle does NOT want the Muselmen bleeding each other on top of the world’s fuel tanks. This is the LAST thing the US wants, and it’s a potential disaster for the global economy. We would not even be discussing Islam if a significan’t part of its population didn’t have a grip on the world’s energy supply.

Still, always, absolutely, never ever. We are at war with Islam, we have always been at war with Islam.

And we’ll fight to the last man.

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Reply #64 - Mar 1^st, 2014 at 6:12pm

IMAGE...

London, mainstream moslem street protests.
Moslems 'demonstrating' just how rational and 'peaceful' mainstream moslems really are.

THOSE PLACARDS, AT A MOSLEM STREET PROTEST IN LONDON READ.....

"Slay those who insult Islam"
"Behead those who insult Islam"
"Massacre those who insult Islam"
"Butcher those who mock Islam"
"Europe you will pay, demolition is on its way"
"Europe you will pay, extermination is on its way"
"Exterminate those who slander Islam"
"Europe is the cancer, Islam is the answer"
"Islam will dominate the world"
"Freedom go to hell"
"Europe take some lessons from 9/11"
"Be prepared for the real Holocaust"
"BBC = British Blasphemic Crusaders"

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 28^th, 2014 at 10:36am:

Yadda wrote on Feb 28^th, 2014 at 10:24am:

In some unguarded moments, yes, moslems do reveal what is true.

Those protestors, straight from the 'islam4peace' bus, had not the slightest inkling whatsoever that waving beheading placards down the main street of London

would be seized upon by islamophobes the world over,

and posted ad-infinitum on islamophobic boards.

They just thought it was a closed-door private meeting between muslims.

As you say, a completely unguarded moment.

Yes gandalf,

Evidence on the streets of London, in the UK, of moslem intolerance, intimidation, AND THREATS OF MURDER
[i.e. evidence of the incompatibility of moslem community values, with the pluralism of Western societal values], could fuel 'anti-moslem bigotry' and 'islamophobia'!!

Yes gandalf, it is absolutely shocking!!!

Britain: Islamists Create Climate of Fear to Curb Free Speech
by Soeren Kern
February 28, 2014 at 5:00 am
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/4197/britain-islamists-free-speech

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"....evidence of Muslim intolerance and incompatibility with liberal values which could, in turn, fuel anti-Muslim bigotry."

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Reply #65 - Mar 1^st, 2014 at 6:18pm

Yadda wrote on Mar 1^st, 2014 at 6:12pm:

Yes gandalf,

Evidence on the streets of London, in the UK, of moslem intolerance, intimidation, AND THREATS OF MURDER
[i.e. evidence of the incompatibility of moslem community values, with the pluralism of Western societal values], could fuel 'anti-moslem bigotry' and 'islamophobia'!!

Yes gandalf, it is absolutely shocking!!!

islamophobia, innit !!

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Reply #68 - Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 9:12pm

Soren wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 8:24pm:

The US will soon be energy self-sufficient. And then the Islamic middle east will sink back to the irrelevance whence it emerged when oil was discovered. Islam will once again be irrelevant - until they discover some use for all that sand.

- Dick Cheney, CEO Haliburton,1998.

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Reply #69 - Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 3:27pm

Why doesn't somebody tell the mayor and others ... "But it's NOTHING to do with Islam ~ you fools!"

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The children of Islamist radicals should be taken into care, Boris Johnson said last night.

The Mayor of London said hundreds of children were at risk of being turned into fanatics by extremist parents.

But he warned that in many cases social services and the police are simply too influenced by ‘absurd’ political correctness to take them into care.

Mr Johnson said young people were increasingly being ‘radicalised at their home’ and taught the sort of ‘crazy stuff’ similar to the views espoused by the killers of Drummer Lee Rigby.

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'Islamist'... nice PC weasel-word to say these are 'not Muslims' even though they'll kill you for saying .... they're not Muslims.

It's an infestation into the West no less harmful than was the bubonic plague.

We can only hope that someone will step forward to stop this madness.

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Reply #70 - Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 3:47pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 3:27pm:

Why doesn't somebody tell the mayor and others ... "But it's NOTHING to do with Islam ~ you fools!"

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The children of Islamist radicals should be taken into care, Boris Johnson said last night.

The Mayor of London said hundreds of children were at risk of being turned into fanatics by extremist parents.

But he warned that in many cases social services and the police are simply too influenced by ‘absurd’ political correctness to take them into care.

Mr Johnson said young people were increasingly being ‘radicalised at their home’ and taught the sort of ‘crazy stuff’ similar to the views espoused by the killers of Drummer Lee Rigby.

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'Islamist'... nice PC weasel-word to say these are 'not Muslims' even though they'll kill you for saying .... they're not Muslims.

It's an infestation into the West no less harmful than was the bubonic plague.

We can only hope that someone will step forward to stop this madness.

If your so worried why don't you tell the mayor?

Please send me the letter when you do?

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Reply #71 - Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 3:48pm

Soren wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 8:24pm:

The US will soon be energy self-sufficient. And then the Islamic middle east will sink back to the irrelevance whence it emerged when oil was discovered. Islam will once again be irrelevant - until they discover some use for all that sand.

It is self sufficient.America has oil reserves to last hundreds of years but still wants to invade other countries for there gas and oil reserves.

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Reply #72 - Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 3:53pm

wally1 wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 3:47pm:

If your so worried why don't you tell the mayor?

Trust me, Waleed ~ the mayor wouldn't have said a word if he didn't know he has most people on-side with this opinion.

I actually don't agree with him.

I think any Muslim parents who are identified as holding 'extremist' views should be removed from Britain with their entire extended family.

Not even a court case.

And it shouldn't matter a cracker if they were born in the UK.

Fly them to Angola and kick them off at the airport.

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Reply #73 - Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 4:51pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 3:53pm:

wally1 wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 3:47pm:

If your so worried why don't you tell the mayor?

Trust me, Waleed ~ the mayor wouldn't have said a word if he didn't know he has most people on-side with this opinion.

I actually don't agree with him.

I think any Muslim parents who are identified as holding 'extremist' views should be removed from Britain with their entire extended family.

Not even a court case.

And it shouldn't matter a cracker if they were born in the UK.

Fly them to Angola and kick them off at the airport.

First you say somebody should tell the mayor,then you say he knows,make up your mind.

I'm looking forward to your letter.

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