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gizmo_2655 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16010 South West NSW Gender:	Re: Zionistic Utopia Reply #15 - Mar 4^th, 2014 at 11:06pm Taipan wrote on Mar 4^th, 2014 at 6:49pm: It says in the Encyclopeadia Judaica that "World Jewry is Edom." They're edomites, not Israelites. Umm NO they are NOT..
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Reply #16 - Mar 4^th, 2014 at 11:44pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 4^th, 2014 at 10:42pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 2:29pm:

many of the architects of the modern zionist movement were atheists.

I call bullsh1t on this.

muslims are bigoted towards atheists,13 Islamic countries have the death penalty for atheists which proves they are deadly barbaric bigots when it comes to those who disbelieve in fairy tales.

Baron,

I've heard this too [what gandalf said].

I've heard that many of the early Kibbutz folk [and the Kibbutz organisations] were atheist and socialist based.

???

"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Reply #17 - Mar 5^th, 2014 at 6:52am

There is overlap - that is not bullsh!t. Not all zionists are religious jews and not all anti-zionist jews are non-religious.

I'm just stating the bleeding obvious.

And yes, the 19th century zionist movement was a secular/non-religious movement. Just basic facts of history guys.

Many jews enjoy eating bacon in the cafes of Tel Aviv. True story.

A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #18 - Mar 6^th, 2014 at 6:08pm

Yadda wrote on Mar 4^th, 2014 at 10:22pm:

Taipan wrote on Mar 4^th, 2014 at 6:49pm:

It says in the Encyclopeadia Judaica that "World Jewry is Edom."

They're edomites, not Israelites.

Does it indeed ?

Well you believe that, if you want to, ......if it gives you comfort to believe a lie.

The bible identifies the people of Edom as another people.

Isaiah 63:1
Who is this that cometh from Edom, with dyed garments from Bozrah? this that is glorious in his apparel, travelling in the greatness of his strength? I that speak in righteousness, mighty to save.
2 Wherefore art thou red in thine apparel, and thy garments like him that treadeth in the winefat?
3 I have trodden the winepress alone; and of the people there was none with me: for I will tread them in mine anger, and trample them in my fury; and their blood shall be sprinkled upon my garments, and I will stain all my raiment.
4 For the day of vengeance is in mine heart, and the year of my redeemed is come.

In the context of Psalms 83, Ezekiel 35 and Ezekiel 36,

Idumea = = Edom = = Jordan = = 'Palestinians'

Taipan,

You can believe whatever you want to believe.

We all do.

I know that i do.

Psalms 25:8
Good and upright is the LORD: therefore will he teach sinners in the way.
9 The meek will he guide in judgment: and the meek will he teach his way.

Palestinians are Arabs which came from Ishmael marrying Canaanite women.

Jews come from Esau, Jacobs brother, and Esau gave up his birthright and went off and married Canaanite women the result of which are the Edomites/Jews.

The real Israelites are the White European peoples, especially the Anglo-Saxon-Keltic-Germanic-Scandinavian peoples who came from the ten northern tribes of Israel that were taken captive in Assyria circa 720BC and escaped and travelled north through Armenia and then into the caucus mountain region and out the other side.

Im sure some jews are actual descendants of the Israelites but I believe most of them aren't.

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Taipan Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1091 SouthWest Sydney Gender:	Re: Zionistic Utopia Reply #19 - Mar 6^th, 2014 at 6:11pm I forgot to mention that the Apocrypha book called 2nd Esdras contains verses about the ten northern tribes.
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Reply #20 - Mar 6^th, 2014 at 6:18pm

39 And whereas thou sawest that he gathered another peaceable multitude unto him;

40 Those are the ten tribes, which were carried away prisoners out of their own land in the time of Osea the king, whom Salmanasar the king of Assyria led away captive, and he carried them over the waters, and so came they into another land.

41 But they took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,

42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.

43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.

44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.

45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.

46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,

47 The Highest shall stay the springs of the stream again, that they may go through: therefore sawest thou the multitude with peace.

48 But those that be left behind of thy people are they that are found within my borders.

49 Now when he destroyeth the multitude of the nations that are gathered together, he shall defend his people that remain.

50 And then shall he shew them great wonders.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/apo/es2013.htm#035

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Carpe Diem New Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18 Gender:	Re: Zionistic Utopia Reply #21 - Mar 13^th, 2014 at 8:59pm I laugh at the simpletons who blame Zionism for everything. Yes, that includes their burnt toast in the morning. That are numerous examples that contradict the ludicrous assertion that Zionism controls the world in any capacity, besides primitive institutions in one state.
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