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Re: War with Russia?
Reply #60 - Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 9:06am

adelcrow wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 9:02am:

skippy. wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 8:28am:

Obama is out there telling Russia to pull their head in, while Abbott is cowering behind some women's skirt instead of bashing her just for a change.

Abbott admires Putin to much to stand up to him.

Its easy to invade third world crap holes and shoot poverty stricken rock throwing civilians...Its quite another thing to stand up to one of the worlds strongest armies.

Are these the same poverty stricken rock throwing civilians that carry weapons plant IEDs blow up schools ,murder women and girls for daring to seek an education ,murder our and our allies soldiers whilst hiding amongst the civilian population.......or different ones. You are a class act matey, a real disgrace......and a troll

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Re: War with Russia?
Reply #61 - Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 9:12am

5.56_ NATO wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 9:06am:

adelcrow wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 9:02am:

skippy. wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 8:28am:

Obama is out there telling Russia to pull their head in, while Abbott is cowering behind some women's skirt instead of bashing her just for a change.

Abbott admires Putin to much to stand up to him.

Its easy to invade third world crap holes and shoot poverty stricken rock throwing civilians...Its quite another thing to stand up to one of the worlds strongest armies.

Are these the same poverty stricken rock throwing civilians that carry weapons plant IEDs blow up schools ,murder women and girls for daring to seek an education ,murder our and our allies soldiers whilst hiding amongst the civilian population.......or different ones. You are a class act matey, a real disgrace......and a troll

wow...more personal abuse from the new resident troll..I am surprised
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Re: War with Russia?
Reply #62 - Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 9:13am

5.56_ NATO wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 8:59am:

skippy. wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 8:53am:

5.56_ NATO wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 8:39am:

skippy. wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 8:28am:

Obama is out there telling Russia to pull their head in, while Abbott is cowering behind some women's skirt instead of bashing her just for a change.

Fair dinkum Roll Eyes

Thanks for the troll, banned member, I note instead of refuting the facts you used abuse, a tried and true method of the loser troll you are.

Not abuse ,just a fact, no need to snap precious boy Grin

Check your post and give yourself an uppercut ,or ten

Thanks for more trolling abuse, banned member, here are the facts from the USA president, as presented by me. It must suck to be a banned troll, like you.

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THE United States has demanded an end to Russian intervention in Ukraine after President Barack Obama told President Putin he had violated international law.In a 90-minute phone call, he also told him to withdraw forces to bases in Crimea or face political and economic isolation.

Thanks for the free kick, banned member, though it was unnecessary as your trolling efforts make highlighting your ineptness too easy as it is.

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Re: War with Russia?
Reply #63 - Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 9:17am

The invasion of Afghanistan was supported by the UN and the ALP after the 9/11 attacks on America which has turned into a disaster.....The Iraq war was a mistake that was based on false information which has turned Iraq into one of the most dangerous places on earth.....Why would anyone support any interference in Europe that has nothing to do with Australia or our national security......Have we learned nothing from our past follies and stupidity in supporting wars that have nothing to do with us!!!

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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: War with Russia? Reply #64 - Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 9:22am Its easy to rape, torture and murder innocent women and children in Afghanistan and Iraq and turn these countries into cesspits of terrorism and Islamic fundamentalism but the Russian Army Navy and Air force will probably put up a bit more of a fight
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Re: War with Russia?
Reply #65 - Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 9:25am

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 9:17am:

The invasion of Afghanistan was supported by the UN and the ALP after the 9/11 attacks on America which has turned into a disaster.....The Iraq war was a mistake that was based on false information which has turned Iraq into one of the most dangerous places on earth.....Why would anyone support any interference in Europe that has nothing to do with Australia or our national security......Have we learned nothing from our past follies and stupidity in supporting wars that have nothing to do with us!!!

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Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
George Santayana (1863 - 1952), The Life of Reason, Volume 1, 1905

phil the lefties on here dont like me reminding them about the past.... Cry

well its only lefties that are urging a war phil...we should be watching Obama he isnt going to stand back and watch Russia march in again.. is he??.. isnt that what happened in Afghanistan...didnt the yanks repel Russia...seems like some war is ok .. and others sit on the sidelines.. I wonder if its that easy????

what do the people of Crimea want does anyone know?.. do they really want Russian war machines on their borders

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Re: War with Russia?
Reply #66 - Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 9:26am

skippy. wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 8:28am:

Obama is out there telling Russia to pull their head in, while Abbott is cowering behind some women's skirt instead of bashing her just for a change.

Obama is the leader of the free world.
The leader of the most important country in the world and a permanent UN Sec Council member.

He is the person to comment.

You seriously dont think the leader of Australia should be the one doing it do you?!

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Reply #67 - Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 9:30am

cods wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 9:25am:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 9:17am:

The invasion of Afghanistan was supported by the UN and the ALP after the 9/11 attacks on America which has turned into a disaster.....The Iraq war was a mistake that was based on false information which has turned Iraq into one of the most dangerous places on earth.....Why would anyone support any interference in Europe that has nothing to do with Australia or our national security......Have we learned nothing from our past follies and stupidity in supporting wars that have nothing to do with us!!!

Huh

Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
George Santayana (1863 - 1952), The Life of Reason, Volume 1, 1905

phil the lefties on here dont like me reminding them about the past.... Cry

well its only lefties that are urging a war phil...we should be watching Obama he isnt going to stand back and watch Russia march in again.. is he??.. isnt that what happened in Afghanistan...didnt the yanks repel Russia...seems like some war is ok .. and others sit on the sidelines.. I wonder if its that easy????

what do the people of Crimea want does anyone know?.. do they really want Russian war machines on their borders

Actually this little lefty (me) is simply saying "If Howard and Abbott thought it was ok to invade Iraq and Afghanistan based on lies why dont we invade Russia because of Putins invasion of the Ukraine?"
Is it because its easier to invade third world crap holes and if so does that make Abbott and our armed forces cowards?

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Reply #68 - Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 9:35am

adelcrow wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 9:30am:

cods wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 9:25am:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 9:17am:

The invasion of Afghanistan was supported by the UN and the ALP after the 9/11 attacks on America which has turned into a disaster.....The Iraq war was a mistake that was based on false information which has turned Iraq into one of the most dangerous places on earth.....Why would anyone support any interference in Europe that has nothing to do with Australia or our national security......Have we learned nothing from our past follies and stupidity in supporting wars that have nothing to do with us!!!

Huh

Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
George Santayana (1863 - 1952), The Life of Reason, Volume 1, 1905

phil the lefties on here dont like me reminding them about the past.... Cry

well its only lefties that are urging a war phil...we should be watching Obama he isnt going to stand back and watch Russia march in again.. is he??.. isnt that what happened in Afghanistan...didnt the yanks repel Russia...seems like some war is ok .. and others sit on the sidelines.. I wonder if its that easy????

what do the people of Crimea want does anyone know?.. do they really want Russian war machines on their borders

Actually this little lefty (me) is simply saying "If Howard and Abbott thought it was ok to invade Iraq and Afghanistan based on lies why dont we invade Russia because of Putins invasion of the Ukraine?"
Is it because its easier to invade third world crap holes and if so does that make Abbott and our armed forces cowards?

My god you are a stupid little man, aren't you?

I know children with more sense than you, you tried to make a point, but due to your intellectual limitations you have failed (again) and just looked foolish.

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Re: War with Russia?
Reply #69 - Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 9:37am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 9:26am:

skippy. wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 8:28am:

Obama is out there telling Russia to pull their head in, while Abbott is cowering behind some women's skirt instead of bashing her just for a change.

Obama is the leader of the free world.
The leader of the most important country in the world and a permanent UN Sec Council member.

He is the person to comment.

You seriously dont think the leader of Australia should be the one doing it do you?!

No I don't. I expect the Aus PM to stay out of any wars that don't concern us, but that is not the gist of this thread. This thread is about conservative PMs playing bully boy with third world countries while cowering in the corner when facing the big boys.

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Re: War with Russia?
Reply #70 - Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 9:42am

BigOl64 wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 9:35am:

adelcrow wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 9:30am:

cods wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 9:25am:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 9:17am:

The invasion of Afghanistan was supported by the UN and the ALP after the 9/11 attacks on America which has turned into a disaster.....The Iraq war was a mistake that was based on false information which has turned Iraq into one of the most dangerous places on earth.....Why would anyone support any interference in Europe that has nothing to do with Australia or our national security......Have we learned nothing from our past follies and stupidity in supporting wars that have nothing to do with us!!!

Huh

Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
George Santayana (1863 - 1952), The Life of Reason, Volume 1, 1905

phil the lefties on here dont like me reminding them about the past.... Cry

well its only lefties that are urging a war phil...we should be watching Obama he isnt going to stand back and watch Russia march in again.. is he??.. isnt that what happened in Afghanistan...didnt the yanks repel Russia...seems like some war is ok .. and others sit on the sidelines.. I wonder if its that easy????

what do the people of Crimea want does anyone know?.. do they really want Russian war machines on their borders

Actually this little lefty (me) is simply saying "If Howard and Abbott thought it was ok to invade Iraq and Afghanistan based on lies why dont we invade Russia because of Putins invasion of the Ukraine?"
Is it because its easier to invade third world crap holes and if so does that make Abbott and our armed forces cowards?

My god you are a stupid little man, aren't you?

I know children with more sense than you, you tried to make a point, but due to your intellectual limitations you have failed (again) and just looked foolish.

Yep....there's nothing like the personal abuse of fellow forum members to get your counter argument across Tongue

Im simply asking a question and if you cant think of an argument against it just say so...
Otherwise you should try some deep breathing exercises before you break forum rules and abuse fellow members Cheesy

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Re: War with Russia?
Reply #71 - Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 9:54am

cods wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 9:25am:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 9:17am:

The invasion of Afghanistan was supported by the UN and the ALP after the 9/11 attacks on America which has turned into a disaster.....The Iraq war was a mistake that was based on false information which has turned Iraq into one of the most dangerous places on earth.....Why would anyone support any interference in Europe that has nothing to do with Australia or our national security......Have we learned nothing from our past follies and stupidity in supporting wars that have nothing to do with us!!!

Huh

Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
George Santayana (1863 - 1952), The Life of Reason, Volume 1, 1905

phil the lefties on here dont like me reminding them about the past.... Cry

well its only lefties that are urging a war phil...we should be watching Obama he isnt going to stand back and watch Russia march in again.. is he??.. isnt that what happened in Afghanistan...didnt the yanks repel Russia...seems like some war is ok .. and others sit on the sidelines.. I wonder if its that easy????

what do the people of Crimea want does anyone know?.. do they really want Russian war machines on their borders

Firstly Cods it is John who is using the past to point out the hypocrisy of the Coalition in supporting wars that have nothing to do with us despite the fact the ALP, most of the Australian public and the UN supported the war in Afghanistan.....Iraq was a mistake and something the Howard Government should be condemned for supporting!!!

Secondly the Russians had already pulled out of Afghanistan before the invasion so your assertion that the Americans repelled Russian forces is completely wrong!!!

Thirdly it was the Coalition who sent our troops to war who should take full responsibility for the failures we now see in these Countries.....All wars end with diplomacy and compromise Cods.....Why cant they start that way???

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Re: War with Russia?
Reply #72 - Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 10:01am

cods wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 8:57am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 8:44am:

cods wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 8:13am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 7:28am:

cods wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 7:13am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 7:12am:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 6:52am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 6:22am:

Nothing unusual here. The trolls show up for the first 2 pages with abuse to try to get the topic off track then they run out of steam.

Seriously What is the difference? Why arent we invading russia? Dont they have any oil?

on the other hand why did abbott buy all those new military planes?

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Seriously, why aren't we invading Russia says spot
Too funny buddy

I take it you can answer the question then?

SOB

we are waiting for someone to make the first move.. its up to you or crow..

What are you talking about?

SOB

telling you to get ready to start the war,... you are the one that wants one..you hint its only oil that makes the West attack...

so ok .. put you bum where your mouth is and lead us to victory....you and crow are stirring up about Abbott not going to WAR WITH RUSSIA.....

c an we expect any action from you..

Okay. I normally couldnt be bothered but ill explain it to you this time. The russia war thread was sarcasm since we went into the iraq invasion on less. the question is put to you lot to make you think about it and see that the iraq invasion wasnt what they told us it was (or russia would be invaded too).

Of course some of you knew that (especially from the oil comment you conveniently ignored) but i expect you never did realise it was sarcasm and thought it was serious like you usually do. you and john have more in common than you care to acknowledge methinks.

SOB

butbutbutbutbutbut... you take everyones word as is... butbutbutbutbut we are all expected to know when you are being sarcastic...butbutbutbut...troll..anyone.

soooooooo...ok... I was being sarcastic BACK.. who would expect YOU of all people to stand at the front....

crying into his white flag.. Grin

sarcasm sarcasm..

i think

Typical. i give up. I knew it was useless beforehand though. You just believe propaganda and nothing else and its all opposite - doublethink - hypocritical.

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Reply #73 - Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 10:02am

adelcrow wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 9:42am:

BigOl64 wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 9:35am:

adelcrow wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 9:30am:

cods wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 9:25am:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 9:17am:

The invasion of Afghanistan was supported by the UN and the ALP after the 9/11 attacks on America which has turned into a disaster.....The Iraq war was a mistake that was based on false information which has turned Iraq into one of the most dangerous places on earth.....Why would anyone support any interference in Europe that has nothing to do with Australia or our national security......Have we learned nothing from our past follies and stupidity in supporting wars that have nothing to do with us!!!

Huh

Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
George Santayana (1863 - 1952), The Life of Reason, Volume 1, 1905

phil the lefties on here dont like me reminding them about the past.... Cry

well its only lefties that are urging a war phil...we should be watching Obama he isnt going to stand back and watch Russia march in again.. is he??.. isnt that what happened in Afghanistan...didnt the yanks repel Russia...seems like some war is ok .. and others sit on the sidelines.. I wonder if its that easy????

what do the people of Crimea want does anyone know?.. do they really want Russian war machines on their borders

Actually this little lefty (me) is simply saying "If Howard and Abbott thought it was ok to invade Iraq and Afghanistan based on lies why dont we invade Russia because of Putins invasion of the Ukraine?"
Is it because its easier to invade third world crap holes and if so does that make Abbott and our armed forces cowards?

My god you are a stupid little man, aren't you?

I know children with more sense than you, you tried to make a point, but due to your intellectual limitations you have failed (again) and just looked foolish.

Yep....there's nothing like the personal abuse of fellow forum members to get your counter argument across Tongue

Im simply asking a question and if you cant think of an argument against it just say so...
Otherwise you should try some deep breathing exercises before you break forum rules and abuse fellow members Cheesy

My argument is that it is a stupid question neither worth asking nor answering.

Don't be so precious, pick another forum if your feelings are so fragile, maybe sercret womens business would be more to your capabilities

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Reply #74 - Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 10:03am

Well...the Americans along with Australia supported and funded Al -Qaeda and the Taliban in an attempt to frustrate and eventually expell the Russians from Afghanistan. Just as the Americans and Australians supported and armed Saddam Hussein with WMD's while he was killing Iranians and well all know how those little experiments ended up Cheesy

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