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Reply #15 - Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:20am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:15am:
____ wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:13am:
cods wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:07am:
BigOl64 wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 6:29am:
Here's me thinking the Salvo's had chaged policy and got into doing a bit of 'wet work'.  Grin  Grin


What an inciteful post, well worth the five minutes I wasted



typical fairfax.. disgraceful...


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It now appears the attack that led to Mr Barati's death, and injuries to more than 60 asylum seekers, was an orchestrated response to a rolling protest that involved asylum seekers chanting ''F--k PNG'' and baring their buttocks.




and greenswill wants this in this country....

and look at his headline.. another disgrace...





You put any group of people in Abbott's concentrate camp and demonise them, persecute them, cut off the outside world to them, and then tell them they are in there for the long term and watch people riot.

Abbott and his supporters are a disgrace to humanity.


No one forced them to come here and they knew very well what the new governments' policy is. I have zero sympathy for these queue-jumping economic migrants.



You are a liar, they are not economic migrants and thats why abbott refused to process them  … because the majority are refugees.

Meanwhile economic migrants choose to come in via plane and then apply for refugee status and you support them.

Hypocrite.
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Reply #16 - Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:20am
 
Oh crap, the Pacific (non)Solution was just trickery and misdirection. Over a billion dollars wasted.
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Reply #17 - Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:24am
 
St George of the Garden wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:20am:
Oh crap, the Pacific (non)Solution was just trickery and misdirection. Over a billion dollars wasted.


It actually cost less than $100m per year to run the Pacific Solution, as opposed to Labor's non-solution that has cost more than $2bn per year to run. Try again!
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Reply #18 - Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:24am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:17am:
____ wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:15am:
cods wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:08am:
IN CASE YOU HAVE FORGOTTEN GREEN... THE LABOR PARTY OPENED MANUS... AND PUT ALL THESE PEOPLE ON IT...


YOU REMEMBER THE LABOR PARTY DONT YOU YOUR PARTY JUMPED INTO BED WITH THEM



Labor is not in government. When they were, Greens and there supporters critcised them.

The blood on hands are on Abbott and his supporters. You have blood on your hands.

Shame cods, Shame.


Hardly. The boats had stopped under Howard. Just a few people remained in detention at the 07 election. Rudd made this issue a problem again when he scrapped the pacific Solution. Rudd & Gillard have the blood on their hands. Abbott and Morrison are simply trying to clean up after Labor's mess.



They are not. Abbott is putting these people in concentration camps and ignoring the $5 trillion in taxes it will end up costing.

This is the first stage, next there will be concentration camps in Australia with Australians in them.

Slippery slop logic … apply it before denying the mean spirited black hearts at the core of every abbott supporting conservative.

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Reply #19 - Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:27am
 
____ wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:20am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:15am:
____ wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:13am:
cods wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:07am:
BigOl64 wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 6:29am:
Here's me thinking the Salvo's had chaged policy and got into doing a bit of 'wet work'.  Grin  Grin


What an inciteful post, well worth the five minutes I wasted



typical fairfax.. disgraceful...


____ wrote on Mar 2nd, 2014 at 11:11pm:
It now appears the attack that led to Mr Barati's death, and injuries to more than 60 asylum seekers, was an orchestrated response to a rolling protest that involved asylum seekers chanting ''F--k PNG'' and baring their buttocks.




and greenswill wants this in this country....

and look at his headline.. another disgrace...





You put any group of people in Abbott's concentrate camp and demonise them, persecute them, cut off the outside world to them, and then tell them they are in there for the long term and watch people riot.

Abbott and his supporters are a disgrace to humanity.


No one forced them to come here and they knew very well what the new governments' policy is. I have zero sympathy for these queue-jumping economic migrants.



You are a liar, they are not economic migrants and thats why abbott refused to process them  … because the majority are refugees.

Meanwhile economic migrants choose to come in via plane and then apply for refugee status and you support them.

Hypocrite.


(a) Many of them are granted refugee status by default simply because authorities cannot verify their claims due to the FACT that these people destroy their passports and anything else that can be used to identify them. This also stops the government from sending them back, because if we can't be certain of where they are from, we cannot very well deport them.

(b) If there are people coming by plane, this doesn't bother me as much simply because we know who they are, where they are from because they have a passport with them and they are not putting our Navy and Customs personnel's lives at risk on the ocean.

No hypocrisy to be seen here. Move along, please.
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Reply #20 - Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:37am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:27am:
____ wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:20am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:15am:
____ wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:13am:
cods wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:07am:
BigOl64 wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 6:29am:
Here's me thinking the Salvo's had chaged policy and got into doing a bit of 'wet work'.  Grin  Grin


What an inciteful post, well worth the five minutes I wasted



typical fairfax.. disgraceful...


____ wrote on Mar 2nd, 2014 at 11:11pm:
It now appears the attack that led to Mr Barati's death, and injuries to more than 60 asylum seekers, was an orchestrated response to a rolling protest that involved asylum seekers chanting ''F--k PNG'' and baring their buttocks.




and greenswill wants this in this country....

and look at his headline.. another disgrace...





You put any group of people in Abbott's concentrate camp and demonise them, persecute them, cut off the outside world to them, and then tell them they are in there for the long term and watch people riot.

Abbott and his supporters are a disgrace to humanity.


No one forced them to come here and they knew very well what the new governments' policy is. I have zero sympathy for these queue-jumping economic migrants.



You are a liar, they are not economic migrants and thats why abbott refused to process them  … because the majority are refugees.

Meanwhile economic migrants choose to come in via plane and then apply for refugee status and you support them.

Hypocrite.


(a) Many of them are granted refugee status by default simply because authorities cannot verify their claims due to the FACT that these people destroy their passports and anything else that can be used to identify them. This also stops the government from sending them back, because if we can't be certain of where they are from, we cannot very well deport them.

(b) If there are people coming by plane, this doesn't bother me as much simply because we know who they are, where they are from because they have a passport with them and they are not putting our Navy and Customs personnel's lives at risk on the ocean.

No hypocrisy to be seen here. Move along, please.



There is a thriving business with people smugglers for fake documentaion.

MELBOURNE: An Indian-origin migration agent and his wife face up to 10 years in jail after being accused of running a visa scam in which clients paid for fake marriages to Australian women to enter the country.

The agent and his wedding celebrant wife — Chetan Mohanlal Mashru and Divya Krishne Gowda — were accused of allegedly running visa racket, media reports here said.

Two days ago, Australian Federal Police arrested Mumbai-born Mashru and his Australia-born wife at their Oxley unit in Brisbane's southwest.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/nri/other-news/Indian-origin-couple-charged-o...


Economic migrants with money would more likely come by plane with fake id than leaky boat without any.

Terrorists are more likely to enter via plane with fake ids.
Abbott is ignoring the terrorist threat from migrants who come in via planes with fake id.

And you claiming that people without documentation are not refugees just exposies your xenophobia, nothing else.
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Re: Salvos Did Abbott's Murder Work?
Reply #21 - Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:44am
 
____ wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:24am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:17am:
____ wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:15am:
cods wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:08am:
IN CASE YOU HAVE FORGOTTEN GREEN... THE LABOR PARTY OPENED MANUS... AND PUT ALL THESE PEOPLE ON IT...


YOU REMEMBER THE LABOR PARTY DONT YOU YOUR PARTY JUMPED INTO BED WITH THEM



Labor is not in government. When they were, Greens and there supporters critcised them.

The blood on hands are on Abbott and his supporters. You have blood on your hands.

Shame cods, Shame.


Hardly. The boats had stopped under Howard. Just a few people remained in detention at the 07 election. Rudd made this issue a problem again when he scrapped the pacific Solution. Rudd & Gillard have the blood on their hands. Abbott and Morrison are simply trying to clean up after Labor's mess.



They are not. Abbott is putting these people in concentration camps and ignoring the $5 trillion in taxes it will end up costing.

This is the first stage, next there will be concentration camps in Australia with Australians in them.




Slippery slop logic … apply it before denying the mean spirited black hearts at the core of every abbott supporting conservative.






WHO OPENED THE FLOOD GATES.....WHO WHO WHO WHO WHO




lets see you own that >>
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Reply #22 - Mar 3rd, 2014 at 8:09am
 
Hahahahahaha G_W

You poor hysterical LOLtard.

You’d be better off telling these country shoppers to stay the bugger home.

Wink

Then there would be no deaths on the TV for you to worry about.

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Reply #23 - Mar 3rd, 2014 at 8:11am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:17am:
____ wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:15am:
cods wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:08am:
IN CASE YOU HAVE FORGOTTEN GREEN... THE LABOR PARTY OPENED MANUS... AND PUT ALL THESE PEOPLE ON IT...


YOU REMEMBER THE LABOR PARTY DONT YOU YOUR PARTY JUMPED INTO BED WITH THEM



Labor is not in government. When they were, Greens and there supporters critcised them.

The blood on hands are on Abbott and his supporters. You have blood on your hands.

Shame cods, Shame.


Hardly. The boats had stopped under Howard. Just a few people remained in detention at the 07 election. Rudd made this issue a problem again when he scrapped the pacific Solution. Rudd & Gillard have the blood on their hands. Abbott and Morrison are simply trying to clean up after Labor's mess.

No.  Abbott and Morrison are hiding behind toy soldiers and refusing to tell us what is happening.  THey have not "stopped the boats".  They have simply stopped the information.

And while it was certainly appalling that Rudd reopened Howard's concentration camp in Manus - at least no one was murdered there in his time.  The last 5 months with Scotty in charge just seems to have descended into complete incompetence.

Why are we wasting $900 per day per detainee on these offshore concentration camps, rather than just meeting our international legal responsibilities and and processing asylum seekers in an efficient and humane manner in Australia?
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Reply #24 - Mar 3rd, 2014 at 8:22am
 
rabbitoh08 wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 8:11am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:17am:
____ wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:15am:
cods wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:08am:
IN CASE YOU HAVE FORGOTTEN GREEN... THE LABOR PARTY OPENED MANUS... AND PUT ALL THESE PEOPLE ON IT...


YOU REMEMBER THE LABOR PARTY DONT YOU YOUR PARTY JUMPED INTO BED WITH THEM



Labor is not in government. When they were, Greens and there supporters critcised them.

The blood on hands are on Abbott and his supporters. You have blood on your hands.

Shame cods, Shame.


Hardly. The boats had stopped under Howard. Just a few people remained in detention at the 07 election. Rudd made this issue a problem again when he scrapped the pacific Solution. Rudd & Gillard have the blood on their hands. Abbott and Morrison are simply trying to clean up after Labor's mess.

No.  Abbott and Morrison are hiding behind toy soldiers and refusing to tell us what is happening.  THey have not "stopped the boats".  They have simply stopped the information.

And while it was certainly appalling that Rudd reopened Howard's concentration camp in Manus - at least no one was murdered there in his time.  The last 5 months with Scotty in charge just seems to have descended into complete incompetence.

Why are we wasting $900 per day per detainee on these offshore concentration camps, rather than just meeting our international legal responsibilities and and processing asylum seekers in an efficient and humane manner in Australia?


(a) Because Rudd allowed people smugglers to resume their trade when he dismantled the highly successful pacific Solution. People in detention at 07 election: less than a dozen. People who have arrived since: 50,000+. Those numbers are fact and destroy your weak argument.

(b)Labor tried processing them in Australia and it was an unmitigated disaster. Boat arrivals went from 3-4 a week to 2-3 a day under onshore processing. Laywers also had a field day, filing one appeal after another, costing taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars. Labor finally realised that onshore processing was an abject failure and re-opened Manus Island (after a clumsy and incompetent attempt at using East Timor, until they told Gillard to smack off).
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Reply #25 - Mar 3rd, 2014 at 8:32am
 
____ wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:24am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:17am:
____ wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:15am:
cods wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:08am:
IN CASE YOU HAVE FORGOTTEN GREEN... THE LABOR PARTY OPENED MANUS... AND PUT ALL THESE PEOPLE ON IT...


YOU REMEMBER THE LABOR PARTY DONT YOU YOUR PARTY JUMPED INTO BED WITH THEM



Labor is not in government. When they were, Greens and there supporters critcised them.

The blood on hands are on Abbott and his supporters. You have blood on your hands.

Shame cods, Shame.


Hardly. The boats had stopped under Howard. Just a few people remained in detention at the 07 election. Rudd made this issue a problem again when he scrapped the pacific Solution. Rudd & Gillard have the blood on their hands. Abbott and Morrison are simply trying to clean up after Labor's mess.



They are not. Abbott is putting these people in concentration camps and ignoring the $5 trillion in taxes it will end up costing.

This is the first stage, next there will be concentration camps in Australia with Australians in them.

Slippery slop logic … apply it before denying the mean spirited black hearts at the core of every abbott supporting conservative.



five trillion dollars in taxes from a 1.5 trillion dollar economy?

you are a moron.
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Reply #26 - Mar 3rd, 2014 at 9:06am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:24am:
St George of the Garden wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:20am:
Oh crap, the Pacific (non)Solution was just trickery and misdirection. Over a billion dollars wasted.


It actually cost less than $100m per year to run the Pacific Solution, as opposed to Labor's non-solution that has cost more than $2bn per year to run. Try again!

No, it cost $1.2Bn.

Had to build the prison camp first. . .
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Reply #27 - Mar 3rd, 2014 at 9:07am
 
____ wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:15am:
cods wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:08am:
IN CASE YOU HAVE FORGOTTEN GREEN... THE LABOR PARTY OPENED MANUS... AND PUT ALL THESE PEOPLE ON IT...


YOU REMEMBER THE LABOR PARTY DONT YOU YOUR PARTY JUMPED INTO BED WITH THEM



Labor is not in government. When they were, Greens and there supporters critcised them.

The blood on hands are on Abbott and his supporters. You have blood on your hands.

Shame cods, Shame.

One riotous individual compared to greens thousands dead. I can live with that
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Reply #28 - Mar 3rd, 2014 at 9:41am
 
As Manus fills up, as the desperation builds riots will become larger and deadlier.

At some stage the camp will have to be moved.
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Reply #29 - Mar 3rd, 2014 at 9:46am
 
St George of the Garden wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 9:41am:
As Manus fills up, as the desperation builds riots will become larger and deadlier.

At some stage the camp will have to be moved.



Thank bugger Rudd isn’t in PM.

Imagine his policy of “you can all go and rot on PNG” along side no hard line on boats?

There would be 1000’s more on Manus and the death toll would be huge.

Stupid ALP morons.... Roll Eyes
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