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Re: Racism
Reply #60 - Mar 8th, 2014 at 9:03am
 
skippy. wrote on Mar 8th, 2014 at 8:38am:
Are you lot for real? Since when has it been a crime to call someone an Arab? Are to refrain from calling people Asians too? Roll Eyes

Or, perish the thought, boers  Grin
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Reply #61 - Mar 8th, 2014 at 9:07am
 
mantra wrote on Mar 8th, 2014 at 8:49am:
skippy. wrote on Mar 8th, 2014 at 8:35am:
Oh so Adel got banned for calling someone Palestinian instead of Armenian! oh that makes much more sense! What the....


It looks as though it all comes down to how you phrase it. If Adelcrow had said Joe is a descendant of the Arabic Palestinians who are fighting for their freedom from a cruel Jewish colonisation - then his comments would have been perfectly acceptable.

As long as you are politically correct - then it doesn't matter what you say. Adelcrow will no doubt be more careful next time.

freediver wrote on Mar 6th, 2014 at 7:48pm:
This is on the rules page:

Racism

Discussion of racism and race related political issues is encouraged. However, politically correct language should be used when making criticism of racial policies or groups. Racism will be judged in a similar way to pornography – that is, is the criticism necessary to get a point of view across, or is it a gratuitous attack on a racial group? Note that race is treated differently from religion, which is a matter of choice and is open to the same criticism as political ideology.


From the limited investigationing I did, I agree with Andrei. You are welcome to repost the offending comments here for the purpose of discussion.


So it's okeley dokeley to call people human garbage, that is it would be politically correct to call them this, so long as the issue of their race is not brought up?????  Huh
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Re: Racism
Reply #62 - Mar 8th, 2014 at 9:31am
 
Needless to say, 'racism' can express a legitimate concern that need not be judged immoral and indefensible when viewed from certain perspectives.

When a different race of people come flooding into your neighbourhood via the immigration bandwagon, you can be quite certain they have a shared affinity with one another that is based solely on their racial background.

But this luxury is not allowed those of Anglo-Saxon-European background. It's evil and nasty for white-types to wish to be surrounded by those who resemble themselves racially. To express such a bias is deemed by the luvvies to be morally reprehensible and 'White Supremacist'. 

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Reply #63 - Mar 8th, 2014 at 9:46am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 8th, 2014 at 9:31am:
Needless to say, 'racism' can express a legitimate concern that need not be judged immoral and indefensible when viewed from certain perspectives.

When a different race of people come flooding into your neighbourhood via the immigration bandwagon, you can be quite certain they have a shared affinity with one another that is based solely on their racial background.

But this luxury is not allowed those of Anglo-Saxon-European background. It's evil and nasty for white-types to wish to be surrounded by those who resemble themselves racially. To express such a bias is deemed by the luvvies to be morally reprehensible and 'White Supremacist'. 


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Reply #64 - Mar 8th, 2014 at 10:12am
 
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Banning Adelcrow is unfair. Most of us know that he was just fooling around. Andrei you might not realise it, but the racism you regularly display,  is equally if not more offensive to some of us. You might use more civilised words, but the intent is still there.


From the rules:

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Racism

Discussion of racism and race related political issues is encouraged. However, politically correct language should be used when making criticism of racial policies or groups. Racism will be judged in a similar way to pornography – that is, is the criticism necessary to get a point of view across, or is it a gratuitous attack on a racial group? Note that race is treated differently from religion, which is a matter of choice and is open to the same criticism as political ideology.
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Reply #65 - Mar 8th, 2014 at 10:35am
 
freediver wrote on Mar 8th, 2014 at 10:12am:
Mantra:

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Banning Adelcrow is unfair. Most of us know that he was just fooling around. Andrei you might not realise it, but the racism you regularly display,  is equally if not more offensive to some of us. You might use more civilised words, but the intent is still there.


From the rules:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/forum-rules.html

Racism

Discussion of racism and race related political issues is encouraged. However, politically correct language should be used when making criticism of racial policies or groups. Racism will be judged in a similar way to pornography – that is, is the criticism necessary to get a point of view across, or is it a gratuitous attack on a racial group? Note that race is treated differently from religion, which is a matter of choice and is open to the same criticism as political ideology.


I agree with this rule and remembered eventually why it was put in place, although feel some compassion for those members who don't understand the irony behind it. There is a huge loophole which can be exploited if you have the vocabulary.

You have to protect your forums and this is the only way to do it, although I believe Abbott is trying to alter the racial hatred act again to bring it back into line with the undermining changes Howard made and Labor subsequently amended.

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The prime minister’s election promise to repeal section 18C of the Racial Discrimination Act could be in doubt following comments from the head of the government’s Indigenous Advisory Council, Warren Mundine, that the council was “not happy” about the removal of the section. This means the section may be modified rather than repealed.

Human rights organisations, ethnic groups, think tanks, government agencies and NGOs have all weighed in on the debate, and all seem to agree on two things; freedom of speech is important, but stopping racism and racially motivated attacks is also important.

A person can be considered to have breached the section if their actions are “reasonably likely … to offend, insult, humiliate or intimidate”.

The difference in views lies in how far these organisations believe the state should be able to restrict speech, and has led to some unexpected alliances.

Abbott’s election promise to repeal section 18C came after Andrew Bolt was found to have breached the act for a column he wrote about Indigenous Australians. The column implied light-skinned Indigenous people identified as such for personal gain. A federal court judge found the articles were not written in good faith and contained a series of factual errors.

Bolt and his supporters argue the section should be repealed because it interferes too greatly with speech that could be offensive or insulting.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/07/pm-may-soften-stance-on-racial-disc...
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Reply #66 - Mar 8th, 2014 at 10:44am
 
The point of the rule is to permit the expression of racist views and to encourage free debate about race, while filtering out the drunk bogans who are just here to insult people.
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Reply #67 - Mar 8th, 2014 at 10:49am
 
freediver wrote on Mar 8th, 2014 at 10:44am:
The point of the rule is to permit the expression of racist views and to encourage free debate about race, while filtering out the drunk bogans who are just here to insult people.

Seriously, you're going to defend andreis use of the term 'human garbage' whilst shanking the rest of us with the terminology approximate to 'chavs'  Cheesy
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Reply #68 - Mar 8th, 2014 at 10:55am
 
      'Bogan culture takes a lot of New Zealand culture characteristics. It's almost like New Zealand culture in a concentrated form.' 
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Reply #69 - Mar 8th, 2014 at 11:00am
 
Making no sense at all seems to work as an alternative strategy to political correctness.
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Reply #70 - Mar 8th, 2014 at 11:05am
 
freediver wrote on Mar 8th, 2014 at 10:44am:
The point of the rule is to permit the expression of racist views and to encourage free debate about race, while filtering out the drunk bogans who are just here to insult people.


Well said.

There's been far too much paranoid victimhood posturing among the black communities both here and in the UK. It's got to the point where the police are reluctant to arrest dark skinned people because of the inevitable outcries of 'racism!'
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Re: Racism
Reply #71 - Mar 8th, 2014 at 11:24am
 
skippy. wrote on Mar 8th, 2014 at 8:38am:
Are you lot for real? Since when has it been a crime to call someone an Arab? Are to refrain from calling people Asians too? Roll Eyes


Foul racists insisting racists should be allowed to be racist bastards. Nice.
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Reply #72 - Mar 8th, 2014 at 11:33am
 
freediver wrote on Mar 8th, 2014 at 11:00am:
Making no sense at all seems to work as an alternative strategy to political correctness.

What is the difference between satire and sarcasm?

You're above no ones station buddy!  Cool
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Reply #73 - Mar 8th, 2014 at 11:54am
 
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Mar 8th, 2014 at 11:33am:
freediver wrote on Mar 8th, 2014 at 11:00am:
Making no sense at all seems to work as an alternative strategy to political correctness.

What is the difference between satire and sarcasm?

You're above no ones station buddy!  Cool

What did your parents do to you to make you turn out like this?
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Reply #74 - Mar 8th, 2014 at 12:12pm
 
Sook wrote on Mar 8th, 2014 at 11:54am:
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Mar 8th, 2014 at 11:33am:
freediver wrote on Mar 8th, 2014 at 11:00am:
Making no sense at all seems to work as an alternative strategy to political correctness.

What is the difference between satire and sarcasm?

You're above no ones station buddy!  Cool

What did your parents do to you to make you turn out like this?


From an early age they stopped him reading The Australian.
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