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Who in Oz has the guts to stand for nuclear power?
Mar 10th, 2014 at 10:53am
 
Nobody it seems.

There are expected to be three times as many reactors operating in China in 2022 (59) as there were in 2013 (19). It is projected that India will go from 21 reactors to 36.
Japan -JAPAN! - is going to restart its reactors.
France gets 75% of its power from nuclear.
Dozens of countries have reactors.

If you want to reduce carbon emissions and maintain base load, nuclear is the only option.

Australia has all the uranium the rest of the world wants, but there is not one politician with the guts to stand up and say we should build a nuclear power station. Instead they would rather piss around with expensive and useless renewables.
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Re: Who in Oz has the guts to stand for nuclear power?
Reply #1 - Mar 10th, 2014 at 11:18am
 
why on earth would we go over to a dirty and dangerous non renewable  and very expensive way of generating power when we live in a country with every other alternative available? what sort of cracked logic is this?
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Re: Who in Oz has the guts to stand for nuclear power?
Reply #2 - Mar 10th, 2014 at 11:22am
 
Count me out.
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Re: Who in Oz has the guts to stand for nuclear power?
Reply #3 - Mar 10th, 2014 at 11:32am
 
bogarde73 wrote on Mar 10th, 2014 at 10:53am:
Nobody it seems.

There are expected to be three times as many reactors operating in China in 2022 (59) as there were in 2013 (19). It is projected that India will go from 21 reactors to 36.
Japan -JAPAN! - is going to restart its reactors.
France gets 75% of its power from nuclear.
Dozens of countries have reactors.

If you want to reduce carbon emissions and maintain base load, nuclear is the only option.

Australia has all the uranium the rest of the world wants, but there is not one politician with the guts to stand up and say we should build a nuclear power station. Instead they would rather piss around with expensive and useless renewables.



As long as they build next door to your place then it's fine by me.
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Re: Who in Oz has the guts to stand for nuclear power?
Reply #4 - Mar 10th, 2014 at 12:33pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Mar 10th, 2014 at 11:32am:
bogarde73 wrote on Mar 10th, 2014 at 10:53am:
Nobody it seems.

There are expected to be three times as many reactors operating in China in 2022 (59) as there were in 2013 (19). It is projected that India will go from 21 reactors to 36.
Japan -JAPAN! - is going to restart its reactors.
France gets 75% of its power from nuclear.
Dozens of countries have reactors.

If you want to reduce carbon emissions and maintain base load, nuclear is the only option.

Australia has all the uranium the rest of the world wants, but there is not one politician with the guts to stand up and say we should build a nuclear power station. Instead they would rather piss around with expensive and useless renewables.



As long as they build next door to your place then it's fine by me.


Ha Ha that's exactly what I was going to say.


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Re: Who in Oz has the guts to stand for nuclear power?
Reply #5 - Mar 10th, 2014 at 12:38pm
 
As I have said before, I think this country is well suited to NP, providing the power stations are not built by the Japanese or Russians.
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Re: Who in Oz has the guts to stand for nuclear power?
Reply #6 - Mar 10th, 2014 at 12:42pm
 
viewpoint wrote on Mar 10th, 2014 at 12:38pm:
As I have said before, I think this country is well suited to NP, providing the power stations are not built by the Japanese or Russians.


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Reply #7 - Mar 10th, 2014 at 12:57pm
 
bogarde73 wrote on Mar 10th, 2014 at 10:53am:
If you want to reduce carbon emissions and maintain base load, nuclear is the only option.


No.  Uranium based nuclear is a very poor option.

It is very expensive, relies on a finite fuel fuel source and produces waste which must be managed at great expense over a long period of time.

It is also very inefficient in that a nuclear power station, like coal fired stations, cannot be ramped up or down quickly to to match energy demand.

A far better option is solar thermal, which can produce dispatchable baseload power, in combination with the baseload power produced by a geographically diverse network of wind turbines.
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Re: Who in Oz has the guts to stand for nuclear power?
Reply #8 - Mar 10th, 2014 at 1:12pm
 
bogarde73 wrote on Mar 10th, 2014 at 10:53am:
Nobody it seems.

There are expected to be three times as many reactors operating in China in 2022 (59) as there were in 2013 (19). It is projected that India will go from 21 reactors to 36.
Japan -JAPAN! - is going to restart its reactors.
France gets 75% of its power from nuclear.Dozens of countries have reactors.

If you want to reduce carbon emissions and maintain base load, nuclear is the only option.

Australia has all the uranium the rest of the world wants, but there is not one politician with the guts to stand up and say we should build a nuclear power station. Instead they would rather piss around with expensive and useless renewables.


Yep it shows that the Left heads aren't serious about reducing CO2 concentrations.

http://www.theage.com.au/national/australia-out-of-step-on-nuclear-20090910-fhrj.html
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Australia is alone among advanced countries thinking it can meet deep greenhouse reduction targets without a nuclear power industry, the head of the Federal Government's nuclear agency, Ziggy Switkowski, has said.

Dr Switkowski, who chairs  the Australian Nuclear Science and Technology Organisation, told a business meeting in Melbourne that even current non-nuclear neighbours Indonesia, Thailand and Vietnam were planning to build nuclear power stations.

''I'm not aware of any country that accepts the need to reduce greenhouse gas emissions deeply, that has rejected nuclear power as part of its future energy mix. Australia stands alone in claiming we are different, that we have available a whole range of alternatives that will get us to our target.

''It is ambitious, but the numbers don't work.''

Dr Switkowski's address to the Committee for Economic Development of Australia came the day after doubt was thrown on two of the technologies most favoured as green alternatives by the Federal Government.

On Monday the company building Australia's largest solar power station went into receivership, and a Four Corners investigation found clean coal technology was not getting off the ground - and even if viable might be 30 to 40 years off.

Dr Switkowski said the cost of nuclear power stations was coming down and the time to construct them in some countries was as short as four years. He said Australia should aim to have 50 operating by 2050, which would supply 90 per cent of energy needs and meet greenhouse targets.

He warned that Australia's economic stability would suffer if we abandoned the reliable but highly polluting electricity supply from coal and thought we could supplant it with unreliable sources such as wind or untested technology such as clean coal.

He said the only country that had nuclear power and had done away with it was Italy, which shut down its nuclear industry after the Chernobyl power station in the former Soviet Union exploded after an experiment in 1986.

Dr Switkowski said Italy now had to import most of its electricity, much of it from France, which is 80 per cent nuclear and has electricity prices 60 per cent cheaper than Italy
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Re: Who in Oz has the guts to stand for nuclear power?
Reply #9 - Mar 10th, 2014 at 1:33pm
 
A combination of nuclear for med term and renewables for long term
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Reply #10 - Mar 10th, 2014 at 1:39pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 10th, 2014 at 1:33pm:
A combination of nuclear for med term and renewables for long term

I wouldn't have too many problems with a nuclear plant being built at Olympic Dam - eliminating the risks associated with transporting fuel, and allowing the waste to be stored on site along with all the other toxic tailings from the mining process - but it would simply be too expensive.

Solar thermal and wind technology available now can provide Australia's energy needs:

http://www.energy.unimelb.edu.au/documents/zero-carbon-australia-stationary-energy-plan
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Reply #11 - Mar 10th, 2014 at 3:57pm
 
Yes we can get the CEO & management team from Fukushima over on 457 Visas to set it up & run it ..... Grin

Have to pick a good location.... low lying open coastal area
I suggest ..   Grin Grin

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Reply #12 - Mar 10th, 2014 at 4:27pm
 
The_Barnacle wrote on Mar 10th, 2014 at 12:33pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 10th, 2014 at 11:32am:
bogarde73 wrote on Mar 10th, 2014 at 10:53am:
Nobody it seems.

There are expected to be three times as many reactors operating in China in 2022 (59) as there were in 2013 (19). It is projected that India will go from 21 reactors to 36.
Japan -JAPAN! - is going to restart its reactors.
France gets 75% of its power from nuclear.
Dozens of countries have reactors.

If you want to reduce carbon emissions and maintain base load, nuclear is the only option.

Australia has all the uranium the rest of the world wants, but there is not one politician with the guts to stand up and say we should build a nuclear power station. Instead they would rather piss around with expensive and useless renewables.



As long as they build next door to your place then it's fine by me.


Ha Ha that's exactly what I was going to say.





We all want one provided it's at least 1000 miles away from us.
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Re: Who in Oz has the guts to stand for nuclear power?
Reply #13 - Mar 10th, 2014 at 6:03pm
 
It is very dangerous and no matter how careful we are uncertainty principle will assure there are accidents, increasing the probability of hell on earth alternative universes.
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Reply #14 - Mar 10th, 2014 at 6:21pm
 
I would stand for Nuclear Power particularly if he is related to Duke Nukem! Cheesy
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