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Reply #15 - Mar 11th, 2014 at 6:52pm
 
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Yes, Gandalf, kindly justify remarks you didn't make about what the majority of Muslims around the world might or might not think.


He made them karnal.

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What is "this" - Abu's alleged claim?


The OP.

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Who is this Abu character I hear on this forum?


Gandalf recently took over as moderator of this board from Abu. He is a Sunni Muslim.
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Re: Iraq- draft law to allow 9 yo girls to marry
Reply #16 - Mar 11th, 2014 at 7:14pm
 
I literally have no idea what adamant is ranting about.

freediver wrote on Mar 11th, 2014 at 6:52pm:
The OP.


Well, it does nothing to refute the claim that most muslims oppose child marriage.  Keeping in mind this law has been failing to get through the parliament for over 10 years, and its likely this latest effort will also fail. The report notes powerful secular opposition to the laws - and since they have so far succeeded in blocking a 10 year campaign, its pretty clear that they are indeed quite powerful. One could conclude from this that the forces attempting to push this law through represent a minority of Iraqis, and the secular forces blocking it represent the majority. Or in other words, a microcosm of the exact claim you attribute to me.
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Reply #17 - Mar 11th, 2014 at 7:37pm
 
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Well, it does nothing to refute the claim that most muslims oppose child marriage.  Keeping in mind this law has been failing to get through the parliament for over 10 years, and its likely this latest effort will also fail.


So what is the current age of consent?
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Reply #18 - Mar 11th, 2014 at 7:44pm
 
freediver wrote on Mar 11th, 2014 at 6:52pm:
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Yes, Gandalf, kindly justify remarks you didn't make about what the majority of Muslims around the world might or might not think.


He made them karnal.


Did he?
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Reply #19 - Mar 11th, 2014 at 7:47pm
 
freediver wrote on Mar 11th, 2014 at 7:37pm:
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Well, it does nothing to refute the claim that most muslims oppose child marriage.  Keeping in mind this law has been failing to get through the parliament for over 10 years, and its likely this latest effort will also fail.


So what is the current age of consent?


What is it?
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Re: Iraq- draft law to allow 9 yo girls to marry
Reply #20 - Mar 11th, 2014 at 8:38pm
 
freediver wrote on Mar 11th, 2014 at 7:37pm:
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Well, it does nothing to refute the claim that most muslims oppose child marriage.  Keeping in mind this law has been failing to get through the parliament for over 10 years, and its likely this latest effort will also fail.


So what is the current age of consent?


where? In Iraq? I believe its 18.
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Reply #21 - Mar 11th, 2014 at 9:04pm
 
I think that's more than here. Odd that they would push for such a drastic change.
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Reply #22 - Mar 12th, 2014 at 11:21pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 11th, 2014 at 7:14pm:
I literally have no idea what adamant is ranting about.

freediver wrote on Mar 11th, 2014 at 6:52pm:
The OP.


Well, it does nothing to refute the claim that most muslims oppose child marriage.  Keeping in mind this law has been failing to get through the parliament for over 10 years, and its likely this latest effort will also fail. The report notes powerful secular opposition to the laws - and since they have so far succeeded in blocking a 10 year campaign, its pretty clear that they are indeed quite powerful. One could conclude from this that the forces attempting to push this law through represent a minority of Iraqis, and the secular forces blocking it represent the majority. Or in other words, a microcosm of the exact claim you attribute to me.


It was probably human rights groups and the Americans telling the Iraqis that child marriage is not on, muslims claim it is a puppet government so what do you expect from their masters.

Ayatollah Khomeni reduced the age for girls to get married after the Islamic revolution, The Taliban also brought back child marriage when they ruled Afghanistan.

We have Iran-Afghanistan (Taliban)-Iraq all reducing or wanting to reduce the age of marriage for children and all ruled by bearded nutjobs.
If you read the link it the OP it says the law was approved by parliament.

The secular opposition is not powerful, i suggest you look up the definition of secularism in a dictionary instead of listening to your Imam's definition of it.

Atheism is growing in Iraq, they are ditching their belief in the bullshit barfed up by a 7th century desert bandit.
Atheists would object to old fashioned religious laws from dusty old books from the dark ages.

https://www.google.com.au/#q=iraqi+atheist

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Reply #23 - Mar 13th, 2014 at 12:17am
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 12th, 2014 at 11:21pm:
Atheism is growing in Iraq, they are ditching their belief in the bullshit barfed up by a 7th century desert bandit.


This is a worldwide trend, not exclusive to Iraq.  Atheism and non-religion have more followers than every religion except Christianity and Islam.

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Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 11:24pm:
Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act
 
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Reply #24 - Mar 13th, 2014 at 12:28am
 
Stratos wrote on Mar 13th, 2014 at 12:17am:
Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 12th, 2014 at 11:21pm:
Atheism is growing in Iraq, they are ditching their belief in the bullshit barfed up by a 7th century desert bandit.


This is a worldwide trend, not exclusive to Iraq.  Atheism and non-religion have more followers than every religion except Christianity and Islam.



And China’s the next cab off the rank to take up the cross.

There’s a fair few Hindus though - probably a quarter of the world are Hindu. They’re sort of atheists who are obsessed with God.

A bit like Pentacostals in China.

Mind you, in India, even the atheists believe in God.
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Reply #25 - Mar 16th, 2014 at 2:50pm
 
Stratos wrote on Mar 13th, 2014 at 12:17am:
Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 12th, 2014 at 11:21pm:
Atheism is growing in Iraq, they are ditching their belief in the bullshit barfed up by a 7th century desert bandit.


This is a worldwide trend, not exclusive to Iraq.  Atheism and non-religion have more followers than every religion except Christianity and Islam.



Sources please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Reply #26 - Mar 16th, 2014 at 5:08pm
 
Adamant wrote on Mar 16th, 2014 at 2:50pm:
Sources please!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_religious_groups

But then you could have discovered that for yourself in the time it took to type all those exclamation marks
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Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 11:24pm:
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Reply #27 - Mar 16th, 2014 at 5:38pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 12th, 2014 at 11:21pm:
It was probably human rights groups and the Americans telling the Iraqis that child marriage is not on


Yeah probably.  Roll Eyes

Definitely not anything to do with the long tradition of secularism in Iraq that the islamists still have failed to root out of the population.
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Reply #28 - Mar 16th, 2014 at 5:59pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 16th, 2014 at 5:38pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 12th, 2014 at 11:21pm:
It was probably human rights groups and the Americans telling the Iraqis that child marriage is not on


Yeah probably.  Roll Eyes

Definitely not anything to do with the long tradition of secularism in Iraq that the islamists still have failed to root out of the population.



And of course, needless to say, Mohammed's example has nuffin' to do wiv nuffin' when it comes to drafting marriage laws allowing 9 year olds to be married off.

Nuffin', never ever.  Mohammed? Who he?


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Re: Iraq- draft law to allow 9 yo girls to marry
Reply #29 - Mar 16th, 2014 at 6:09pm
 
Of course it does S. You're barking up the wrong tree.



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