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Reply #60 - Mar 23^rd, 2014 at 11:52pm

ICAC will not play their hand against Sinodinos until he fronts the commission.....The fact Sinodinos stood down although he had the full support of the Liberal party means he knows there is something to be worried about.....Sinodinos deserves the same presumption of innocence every other politician who has been implemented in corruption has received???

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Reply #61 - Mar 24^th, 2014 at 8:32am

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2014 at 11:52pm:

ICAC will not play their hand against Sinodinos until he fronts the commission.....The fact Sinodinos stood down although he had the full support of the Liberal party means he knows there is something to be worried about.....Sinodinos deserves the same presumption of innocence every other politician who has been implemented in corruption has received???

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didnt they charge Tripodi after he was called as a witness??

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Reply #62 - Mar 24^th, 2014 at 9:45am

Grendel wrote on Mar 21^st, 2014 at 4:36pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Mar 21^st, 2014 at 1:08pm:

Sinodinos is a crocked as a bent stick.

Yet you have no proof, only libel.
Join the Monkey boy parade.

The allegations against Sinodinos are far more serious than those against Thomson.

Thomson blew union funds on hookers. Its damage was only limited to the union members who had to pay the bill.

Sinodinos's case is corruption at is core, and effects every tax payer.

The sums of money in Sinodinos' case are orders of magnitude larger as well.

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St George of the Garden Gold Member Offline http://tinyurl.com/n 3o8m2x Posts: 9809 Gender:	Re: Sinodinos Under Scrutiny Reply #63 - Mar 24^th, 2014 at 9:50am I have not said Arfur is crooked, have posted articles from the MSM. And said he will not be back which is a safe assumption to make.
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Reply #64 - Mar 24^th, 2014 at 10:30am

Doctor Jolly wrote on Mar 24^th, 2014 at 9:45am:

Grendel wrote on Mar 21^st, 2014 at 4:36pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Mar 21^st, 2014 at 1:08pm:

Sinodinos is a crocked as a bent stick.

Yet you have no proof, only libel.
Join the Monkey boy parade.

The allegations against Sinodinos are far more serious than those against Thomson.

Thomson blew union funds on hookers. Its damage was only limited to the union members who had to pay the bill.

Sinodinos's case is corruption at is core, and effects every tax payer.

The sums of money in Sinodinos' case are orders of magnitude larger as well.

what ALLEGATION would they be?

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Reply #65 - Mar 24^th, 2014 at 10:31am

Grendel wrote on Mar 21^st, 2014 at 4:29pm:

Bam wrote on Mar 18^th, 2014 at 11:51am:

McDonald and Obeid were rightly prosecuted for corrupt practices to enrich themselves.

Looks like Sinodinos may soon join them. Allegations about him have been floating around for some time.

I do not tolerate corruption from our political representatives no matter what party they represent. All corrupt politicians should be investigated, tried, jailed and stripped of all profits made.

Well no they haven't that is a lie.

Well yes they have you are wrong.

Don’t throw Arthur Sinodinos out with the Obeid bath-water (March 1, 2013)

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In the current climate in NSW, where the Obeids are presumed guilty of everything, it is clearly not considered safe for politicians or even ex-politicians to be in business with them.

Especially as it appears Senator Sinodinos was still involved in [AWH], opening its Newcastle offices in July 2012, during his time in the Senate. Just a couple of months prior to being appointed Shadow Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Opposition. While Sinodinos has done nothing wrong that we can see, he has had reportedly had many sleepless nights about what the political impact of his business dealings might be.

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The NSW Premier O’Farrell seems like a fairly decent man, most of the time, but his willingness to use ICAC to damage his political opponents in a guilt-by-association exercise has been a mistake. Labor certainly can use Sinodinos as a rebuttal to suggestions that Obeids’ activities reflect badly on the ALP exclusively.

Sinodinos has close business links to Obeid, and it is difficult to assert that Sinodinos' business dealings with Obeid must have remained completely clean despite this close association. Any allegations about Sinodinos are little more than rumours at this stage, but it is not tenable to assert that they do not exist and haven't for some time.

Nevertheless, I'll repeat my previous point here - Sinodinos has not been charged with anything, and even if he is, he is entitled to the presumption of innocence. This is much better than the treatment that Obeid has received in the media.
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In the current climate in NSW, where the Obeids are presumed guilty of everything

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Bam Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21905 Gender:	Re: Sinodinos Under Scrutiny Reply #66 - Mar 24^th, 2014 at 10:36am Has Sinodinos actually been charged with anything? We shouldn't be framing the discussion as if he has been.
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St George of the Garden Gold Member Offline http://tinyurl.com/n 3o8m2x Posts: 9809 Gender:	Re: Sinodinos Under Scrutiny Reply #67 - Mar 24^th, 2014 at 10:45am Not yet but will be, I would say.
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Reply #68 - Mar 24^th, 2014 at 10:49am

is this another WITCH HUNT?...lol just asking..

Arthur has been called as a witness...his connections to Syd Water are being played out in the media not ICAC....yet!..

it looks dodgy thats for sure...and if he is dodgy then get him Rex....I have no time for corruption that why I believe the penalties should be harsher..

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Reply #69 - Mar 24^th, 2014 at 11:01am

cods wrote on Mar 24^th, 2014 at 10:49am:

is this another WITCH HUNT?...lol just asking..

Arthur has been called as a witness...his connections to Syd Water are being played out in the media not ICAC....yet!..

it looks dodgy thats for sure...and if he is dodgy then get him Rex....I have no time for corruption that why I believe the penalties should be harsher..

That is a very fair attitude cods.

It does appear he will be investigated.

I think how he wants to reward the spivs and shonks in the financial advice/wealth management industry is also despiccable, trailing commissions that he wants to bring back under the guise of Repeal Day can rob up to $50K from a superannuant’s final payout—money for doing nothing!

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Reply #70 - Mar 24^th, 2014 at 11:20am

Is Big Tony going to apply the same standard to Arfur under his scheme to punish Unions the same as corporate criminals?

Or will this be another white shoe wash?

"Docket # 7941 - Part B Yer 'Onner - Tony Toecutter v Union Mouthpiece...."

"Guilty - six years in Super Max for advocating a fair negotiation of a building contract!"

"Docket # 7942 - Part A, Yer 'Onner - Tony Toecutter v Arfur Sinodial...."

"Guilty - six weeks in Club Fed and in counselling on home confinement for ripping off government contracts, public funds, and stealing billions from hungry orphan's mouths!"

...... "Oh, Mr Sinodias! Before you go!! That will also be a fine of $250!"

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Reply #71 - Mar 24^th, 2014 at 12:10pm

So, he's been investigated for corruption, and he's the architect of many changes to remove regulation in "repeal day".

If that is not setting off alarm bells in your head for "repeal day", then you must be rusted-on.

Should rename "repeal day" to be "pro-corruption day". How best we can remove checks and balances to make it easier to dip into the cash drawer.

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St George of the Garden Gold Member Offline http://tinyurl.com/n 3o8m2x Posts: 9809 Gender:	Re: Sinodinos Under Scrutiny Reply #72 - Mar 24^th, 2014 at 12:19pm Ross Gittins today—Repeal Day a lot of padding to sneak through rotten legislation like protecting spivs.
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Reply #73 - Mar 24^th, 2014 at 1:58pm

St George of the Garden wrote on Mar 24^th, 2014 at 12:19pm:

Ross Gittins today—Repeal Day a lot of padding to sneak through rotten legislation like protecting spivs.

re your pic.... much better than the one you had BTW... but it actually it looks like an american I saw on the net years ago.... it'll come to me eventually.

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philperth2010 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20508 Perth Gender:	Re: Sinodinos Under Scrutiny Reply #74 - Mar 24^th, 2014 at 2:28pm Bam wrote on Mar 24^th, 2014 at 10:36am: Has Sinodinos actually been charged with anything? We shouldn't be framing the discussion as if he has been. Julia Gillard???
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