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Doctor Jolly Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3808	Re: Melbourne Cyclist Doored by Taxi Passenger Reply #60 - Mar 19^th, 2014 at 4:19pm FriYAY wrote on Mar 19^th, 2014 at 2:49pm: Oh wow. Poofter innuendo. What a smacking dim witted tool. Well, you stand on men in tight clothing does invite "poofter" connotations. Straight men dont care what other men wear.
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Reply #61 - Mar 19^th, 2014 at 4:27pm

viewpoint wrote on Mar 19^th, 2014 at 1:43pm:

Kat wrote on Mar 19^th, 2014 at 1:37pm:

viewpoint wrote on Mar 19^th, 2014 at 1:30pm:

Overtaking on the inside is an offense, or at the very least is stupid......bicycle or car, and as she could plainly see it was a cab, she is a fool not to have foreseen the possibility of a passenger disembarking on the kerbside.

It is NOT, certainly not in Vict-whoria, where this occurred.

The law is on her side.

The passenger committed an offense, she did not.

Then plainly she's an idiot!

At least she got a set of sausage-lips that would have cost her a small fortune at the Botox Clinic.

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Reply #62 - Mar 19^th, 2014 at 4:29pm

Kat wrote on Mar 19^th, 2014 at 1:16pm:

I really don't know whether that was supposed to be funny or offensive.

It wasn't particularly funny, sooo.....

Offensive? Embarrassed

I actually do ride on the pavement as much as possible ~ carefully.

The reason?

Villa ghetto-housing on quarter acre blocks. It's a recent development and there are scores of them in my neighbourhood already.

What happens is no one can be bothered to park their cars inside these courtyard areas ~ and so they park outside, along the street.

Consequence? I'm forced to ride my bike in the second lane where the cars are streaming past.

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Reply #63 - Mar 19^th, 2014 at 4:29pm

Kat wrote on Mar 19^th, 2014 at 1:16pm:

I really don't know whether that was supposed to be funny or offensive.

It wasn't particularly funny, sooo.....

Offensive? Embarrassed

I actually do ride on the pavement as much as possible ~ carefully.

The reason?

Villa ghetto-housing on quarter acre blocks. It's a recent development and there are scores of them in my neighbourhood already.

What happens is no one can be bothered to park their cars inside these courtyard areas ~ and so they park outside, along the street.

Consequence? I'm forced to ride my bike in the second lane where the cars are streaming past.

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Reply #64 - Mar 19^th, 2014 at 5:06pm

I was driving on a bendy road with double white lines and I knew there were bikes on the road, (they are every weekend)
I also knew that car drivers get pissed off and take a blind chance of passing the bikes over the double whites.

Soooo, I slowed down to avoid an accident with any oncoming traffic that may have been overtaking the bikes.

The car driver behind me went apeshit waving his hands then passed me giving me the one finger sign.
Loverly man had his young child in the front with him and two road bikes on the towbar.

You just cant please those bike riders.

It is silly to have laws that encourage bike riders to get killed.
In the heat of the moment if a driver has to choose between hitting a car or a bike, the bike is dead.
Car drivers do do the wrong thing, they will get pissed off by bike riders taking up the whole road, they will take a blind chance.
Bike riders should have to keep single file, no point in them sticking to their rites and getting squashed.

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red baron Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10204 Blue Mountains Gender:	Re: Melbourne Cyclist Doored by Taxi Passenger Reply #65 - Mar 19^th, 2014 at 5:20pm The cyclist did indeed commit a Traffic Offence - pardon the pun, the cyclist hasn't got a leg to stand on.
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Alinta Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1470 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Melbourne Cyclist Doored by Taxi Passenger Reply #68 - Mar 19^th, 2014 at 5:33pm red baron wrote on Mar 19^th, 2014 at 5:20pm: The cyclist did indeed commit a Traffic Offence - pardon the pun, the cyclist hasn't got a leg to stand on. What is the offence Baron???
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Reply #69 - Mar 19^th, 2014 at 7:07pm

There are 2 very basic road rules involved here
1. Don't pass on the left
2. Give way to the right
The cyclist tried to pass on the left making the car/cab on her right.
I've never seen a bike lane as narrow as that & it appears it wasn't one. So the bike rider is in the wrong.

Only an idiot would attempt to pass up the inside in that narrow space. I support the comments made to her by the alighting passengers.

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viewpoint Gold Member Offline A joke is a very serious thing. [Winston] Posts: 2209 Gender:	Re: Melbourne Cyclist Doored by Taxi Passenger Reply #70 - Mar 19^th, 2014 at 7:15pm Alinta wrote on Mar 19^th, 2014 at 5:33pm: red baron wrote on Mar 19^th, 2014 at 5:20pm: The cyclist did indeed commit a Traffic Offence - pardon the pun, the cyclist hasn't got a leg to stand on. What is the offence Baron??? Riding without due care and attention.......
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Reply #71 - Mar 19^th, 2014 at 7:26pm

Gnads wrote on Mar 19^th, 2014 at 7:07pm:

There are 2 very basic road rules involved here
1. Don't pass on the left
2. Give way to the right
The cyclist tried to pass on the left making the car/cab on her right.
I've never seen a bike lane as narrow as that & it appears it wasn't one. So the bike rider is in the wrong.

Only an idiot would attempt to pass up the inside in that narrow space. I support the comments made to her by the alighting passengers.

Gnads... read this VERY carefully....

It is LEGAL for cyclists to pass on the left-side, certainly in Vict-whoria.

This is fact, not a 'claim' or a 'guess'.

Also, it is ILLEGAL to open a car door in such a manner as to cause an obstruction or accident.

This, also, is a fact, again in Vict-whoria.

I've certainly seen bike lanes as narrow, if not narrower. I do ride daily, remember. There was
some conjecture at first re whether it was a bike lane or not, but you are correct, it is not.

Officially. But it does get used as one regularly, apparently.

But again, considering the laws I've mentioned above, she still was not 'in the wrong'.

The Vict-whorian police seem to agree with me, for some reason. Could it be that I might be
right?

**Adds: The woman concerned is a member of a certain cycling forum, as am I. She definitely
does NOT come across as a smartass or a fool, and is noted for promoting safe cycling, and
cycling in general. She is certainly nothing like she's being portrayed here and elsewhere by
'people' whose hatred of cyclists seems to border on the pathological.

Some of the comments posted online make me seriously question the fitness of the posters
to hold a driver's licence.**

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Kat Gold Member Offline Socialism IS the answer. Posts: 17709 Everywhere and no-where Gender:	Re: Melbourne Cyclist Doored by Taxi Passenger Reply #72 - Mar 19^th, 2014 at 7:26pm red baron wrote on Mar 19^th, 2014 at 5:20pm: The cyclist did indeed commit a Traffic Offence - pardon the pun, the cyclist hasn't got a leg to stand on. Sorry, but the law says she did not.
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Reply #73 - Mar 19^th, 2014 at 7:27pm

viewpoint wrote on Mar 19^th, 2014 at 7:15pm:

Alinta wrote on Mar 19^th, 2014 at 5:33pm:

red baron wrote on Mar 19^th, 2014 at 5:20pm:

The cyclist did indeed commit a Traffic Offence - pardon the pun, the cyclist hasn't got a leg to stand on.

What is the offence Baron???

Riding without due care and attention.......

Wrong. Again.

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Reply #74 - Mar 19^th, 2014 at 7:30pm

So I take it he was passing on the inside - a traffic offence?

Tough titties - I've advocated for years that cyclists should wear a numbered jacket so they can be identified when breaking the law.

I used to drive a blind van around Sydney city (sometimes ) and was once in the midddle of a left turn with green arrow when I heard this wailing sound coming from te left - I stopped immediately - being a good driver - and barely missed a cyclist courier screaming through on my inside against the law.

Had I not stopped you can imagine who he'd try to blame.

Many other incidents spring to mind - red light running, turning into a one way street the wrong way and forcing me to stop suddenly while driving the correct way etc -and all I can say is if they wish to carry on with suicidal actions while riding in traffic - they have only themselves to blame.

Number 'em and charge 'em an annual fee for registration of the number - fine em for traffic offences.

The road laws say 'vehicle' - anything used to convey a person - that includes a horse etc as well and many a person has been done for traffic offences while riding a horse.

Same applies to bicycle riders.

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