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66,000 female genital Muslim mutilations in the UK
Mar 22nd, 2014 at 5:36am
 
'Dr Dhanuson Dharmasena, 31, is from Whittington Hospital, north London.

Concerns were raised about a birth in hospital's maternity unit in 2012.

It is alleged he carried out the procedure helped by Hasan Mohamed, 40.

Doctor qualified in London in 2005 with a bachelor's degree in surgery.
The charges are first ever brought under the Female Genital Mutilation Act.

Prosecutors have dropped four other cases due to insufficient evidence.
FGM criminalised in 1985 and is thought to have happened to 66,000 in UK'.


Are these two conscientious Muslims going to be deported? Of course not.

Will he be de-registered from practising? Of course not.

They'll be released back into the community where the doctor will be more careful to perform these barbarities under circumstances in which 'insufficient evidence' will keep him out of jail.


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Reply #1 - Mar 22nd, 2014 at 5:40am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 22nd, 2014 at 5:36am:
'Dr Dhanuson Dharmasena, 31, is from Whittington Hospital, north London.

Concerns were raised about a birth in hospital's maternity unit in 2012.

It is alleged he carried out the procedure helped by Hasan Mohamed, 40.

Doctor qualified in London in 2005 with a bachelor's degree in surgery.
The charges are first ever brought under the Female Genital Mutilation Act.

Prosecutors have dropped four other cases due to insufficient evidence.
FGM criminalised in 1985 and is thought to have happened to 66,000 in UK'.


Are these two conscientious Muslims going to be deported? Of course not. They'll be released back into the community where the doctor will be more careful to perform these barbarities under circumstances in which 'insufficient evidence' will keep him out of jail.

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Reply #2 - Mar 22nd, 2014 at 6:07am
 
Winston Smith wrote on Mar 22nd, 2014 at 5:40am:
Don't you get tired of thinking about division?


Don't you get tired of reading about it, when you don't have to?

I get tired of politicians who prefer to ignore the elephant in the room as being inconvenient to deal with during their political life-time, and who much prefer that the cultural and societal damage from importing these highly incompatible aliens be dealt with by future generations of politician.

That really is a highly irresponsible, cowardly, and lazy attitude on the part of Western politicians for which future generations of our own people will be suffering the fall-out.

But that's all 'in the future' for people with your attitude, isn't it, Winston?

Comfortably complacency because the time has not yet arrived when the percentage of Muslims in the community will become a worry even to the politically correct, such as yourself.

You'd far prefer that people such as myself and freediver, Larry Pickering, Pat Condell, Melanie Phillips, Geert Wilders, et al simply roll over in bed and go to sleep, and stop upsetting your comfortable world in which political correctness is a substitute for moral cowardice.



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Reply #3 - Mar 22nd, 2014 at 7:10am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 22nd, 2014 at 6:07am:
Winston Smith wrote on Mar 22nd, 2014 at 5:40am:
Don't you get tired of thinking about division?


Don't you get tired of reading about it, when you don't have to?

I get tired of politicians who prefer to ignore the elephant in the room as being inconvenient to deal with during their political life-time, and who much prefer that the cultural and societal damage from importing these highly incompatible aliens be dealt with by future generations of politician.

That really is a highly irresponsible, cowardly, and lazy attitude on the part of Western politicians for which future generations of our own people will be suffering the fall-out.

But that's all 'in the future' for people with your attitude, isn't it, Winston?

Comfortably complacency because the time has not yet arrived when the percentage of Muslims in the community will become a worry even to the politically correct, such as yourself.

You'd far prefer that people such as myself and freediver, Larry Pickering, Pat Condell, Melanie Phillips, Geert Wilders, et al simply roll over in bed and go to sleep, and stop upsetting your comfortable world in which political correctness is a substitute for moral cowardice.





What are you afraid of Herbert?
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Reply #4 - Mar 22nd, 2014 at 7:47am
 
If the doctor had deviated out of hospital norms or hasn't followed policies and procedures then of course he should be investigated and reprimanded.

That's why in Aus we have the health care complaints commission and various health registrations to look at staff who have broken the rules or has deviated out of acceptable norms.
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Reply #5 - Mar 22nd, 2014 at 7:48am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 22nd, 2014 at 6:07am:
Winston Smith wrote on Mar 22nd, 2014 at 5:40am:
Don't you get tired of thinking about division?


Don't you get tired of reading about it, when you don't have to?

I get tired of politicians who prefer to ignore the elephant in the room as being inconvenient to deal with during their political life-time, and who much prefer that the cultural and societal damage from importing these highly incompatible aliens be dealt with by future generations of politician.

That really is a highly irresponsible, cowardly, and lazy attitude on the part of Western politicians for which future generations of our own people will be suffering the fall-out.

But that's all 'in the future' for people with your attitude, isn't it, Winston?

Comfortably complacency because the time has not yet arrived when the percentage of Muslims in the community will become a worry even to the politically correct, such as yourself.

You'd far prefer that people such as myself and freediver, Larry Pickering, Pat Condell, Melanie Phillips, Geert Wilders, et al simply roll over in bed and go to sleep, and stop upsetting your comfortable world in which political correctness is a substitute for moral cowardice.





Does that mean that Osama bin ladin should be listened to and respected to aswell?
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Reply #6 - Mar 22nd, 2014 at 8:24am
 
Winston do you support FGM?
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Reply #7 - Mar 22nd, 2014 at 8:32am
 
freediver wrote on Mar 22nd, 2014 at 8:24am:
Winston do you support FGM?


What would it entail?
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Reply #8 - Mar 22nd, 2014 at 9:06am
 
FGM typically entails mutilation of the female genitals. Did you think we were talking about a new pop band or something?
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Reply #9 - Mar 22nd, 2014 at 9:35am
 
freediver wrote on Mar 22nd, 2014 at 9:06am:
FGM typically entails mutilation of the female genitals. Did you think we were talking about a new pop band or something?


I didn't ask what it is.
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Reply #10 - Mar 22nd, 2014 at 10:00am
 
Winston Smith wrote on Mar 22nd, 2014 at 9:35am:
freediver wrote on Mar 22nd, 2014 at 9:06am:
FGM typically entails mutilation of the female genitals. Did you think we were talking about a new pop band or something?


I didn't ask what it is.


You asked "What would it entail?"  'Entail : involve (something) as a necessary or inevitable part or consequence.
"a situation which entails considerable risks"
synonyms:      necessitate, make necessary, require, need, demand, call for....'

Given the above definition the answer fits your question, I don't think that anyone would reasonably think that you were asking what it would entail if you wanted to support FGM.
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Reply #11 - Mar 22nd, 2014 at 10:04am
 
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Mar 22nd, 2014 at 10:00am:
Winston Smith wrote on Mar 22nd, 2014 at 9:35am:
freediver wrote on Mar 22nd, 2014 at 9:06am:
FGM typically entails mutilation of the female genitals. Did you think we were talking about a new pop band or something?


I didn't ask what it is.


You asked "What would it entail?"  'Entail : involve (something) as a necessary or inevitable part or consequence.
"a situation which entails considerable risks"
synonyms:      necessitate, make necessary, require, need, demand, call for....'

Given the above definition the answer fits your question, I don't think that anyone would reasonably think that you were asking what it would entail if you wanted to support FGM.


You're telling the story. What happens next? Huh
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Reply #12 - Mar 22nd, 2014 at 10:31am
 
Winston Smith wrote on Mar 22nd, 2014 at 5:40am:
Don't you get tired of thinking about division?


Incidentally, Winston, a debating forum's chief characteristic is that the membership is divided on issues.  Roll Eyes


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Reply #13 - Mar 22nd, 2014 at 10:47am
 
I see a problem where (as has happened already) some people take their girls overseas to have the butchery done in places that accept the procedure or don't enforce the laws.
Over time this practice will end but we must do all we can to stop it happening and speed up its end.
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Reply #14 - Mar 22nd, 2014 at 11:05am
 
Winston Smith wrote on Mar 22nd, 2014 at 10:04am:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Mar 22nd, 2014 at 10:00am:
Winston Smith wrote on Mar 22nd, 2014 at 9:35am:
freediver wrote on Mar 22nd, 2014 at 9:06am:
FGM typically entails mutilation of the female genitals. Did you think we were talking about a new pop band or something?


I didn't ask what it is.


You asked "What would it entail?"  'Entail : involve (something) as a necessary or inevitable part or consequence.
"a situation which entails considerable risks"
synonyms:      necessitate, make necessary, require, need, demand, call for....'

Given the above definition the answer fits your question, I don't think that anyone would reasonably think that you were asking what it would entail if you wanted to support FGM.


You're telling the story. What happens next? Huh


You realize that you got the answer that you asked for. Smiley
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