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wally1 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2055 Gender:	Re: 66,000 female genital Muslim mutilations in the UK Reply #15 - Mar 22^nd, 2014 at 11:27am freediver wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2014 at 9:06am: FGM typically entails mutilation of the female genitals. Did you think we were talking about a new pop band or something? It was done in a hospital using trained people,clean environment,clean cut, proper equipment thus no mutiliation was done.
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Reply #16 - Mar 22^nd, 2014 at 11:28am

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2014 at 11:05am:

Winston Smith wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2014 at 10:04am:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2014 at 10:00am:

Winston Smith wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2014 at 9:35am:

freediver wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2014 at 9:06am:

FGM typically entails mutilation of the female genitals. Did you think we were talking about a new pop band or something?

I didn't ask what it is.

You asked "What would it entail?" 'Entail : involve (something) as a necessary or inevitable part or consequence.
"a situation which entails considerable risks"
synonyms: necessitate, make necessary, require, need, demand, call for....'

Given the above definition the answer fits your question, I don't think that anyone would reasonably think that you were asking what it would entail if you wanted to support FGM.

You're telling the story. What happens next? Huh

You realize that you got the answer that you asked for.

But I didn't.

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Reply #17 - Mar 22^nd, 2014 at 11:31am

Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2014 at 10:31am:

Winston Smith wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2014 at 5:40am:

Don't you get tired of thinking about division?

Incidentally, Winston, a debating forum's chief characteristic is that the membership is divided on issues. Roll Eyes

United we stand, divided we fall. Roll Eyes

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ian Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 9451	Re: 66,000 female genital Muslim mutilations in the UK Reply #18 - Mar 22^nd, 2014 at 11:40am no, I dont think winston got the answer. FGM can take many forms from a simple cut to a complete removal of the clitoris. wonder how many male children were the victims of MGM. More than 66,000 i bet.
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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: 66,000 female genital Muslim mutilations in the UK Reply #19 - Mar 22^nd, 2014 at 12:25pm wally1 wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2014 at 7:47am: If the doctor had deviated out of hospital norms or hasn't followed policies and procedures then of course he should be investigated and reprimanded. 'Reprimanded? May I make a small suggestion? How about he is given jail time, and then deported?
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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: 66,000 female genital Muslim mutilations in the UK Reply #20 - Mar 22^nd, 2014 at 12:27pm wally1 wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2014 at 7:48am: Does that mean that Osama bin ladin should be listened to and respected to as well? Certainly ~ but not after 9/11.
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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: 66,000 female genital Muslim mutilations in the UK Reply #21 - Mar 22^nd, 2014 at 12:35pm Winston Smith wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2014 at 11:31am: United we stand, divided we fall. Precisely ... and that's exactly why 'multiculturalism' and the importation of people who are congenital carriers of 'Islam' is a hostile move against the best interests of the host people.
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Reply #22 - Mar 22^nd, 2014 at 12:38pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2014 at 12:25pm:

'Reprimanded?

May I make a small suggestion?

How about he is given jail time, and then deported?

You have mentioned deporting people quite a bit herbert, and I'm curious as to why you think that would solve the problem. Surely a society which punishes those who would cause harm to people is better than one where it is (presumably) easier to get away with these kind of things.

Would you rather the perpetrator is imprisoned then monitored so he causes no more harm, or they are sent somewhere where they can continue to commit their crimes with a much lower chance of getting punished for these kind of things?

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Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 11:24pm:

Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act

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Reply #23 - Mar 22^nd, 2014 at 12:40pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2014 at 12:25pm:

wally1 wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2014 at 7:47am:

If the doctor had deviated out of hospital norms or hasn't followed policies and procedures then of course he should be investigated and reprimanded.

'Reprimanded?

May I make a small suggestion?

How about he is given jail time, and then deported?

They would probably put conditions on his registration (example-no more surgery, further education, not to practice alone etc) or take his GP accreditation away from him for alittle while.

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Reply #24 - Mar 22^nd, 2014 at 12:51pm

wally1 wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2014 at 12:40pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2014 at 12:25pm:

wally1 wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2014 at 7:47am:

If the doctor had deviated out of hospital norms or hasn't followed policies and procedures then of course he should be investigated and reprimanded.

'Reprimanded?

May I make a small suggestion?

How about he is given jail time, and then deported?

They would probably put conditions on his registration (example-no more surgery, further education, not to practice alone etc) or take his GP accreditation away from him for alittle while.

It would become 'a nice little earner' for him at home in the spare bedroom. Moonlighting to supplement his normal income. A cottage industry.

As a medico he would be only too aware of what these excising operations meant for the future sexual satisfaction for these girls ... damn-near nil enjoyment. Just lie there and think of Pakistan.

He is a monster for having performed these life-changing 'operations'. A veritable Jack the Ripper.

I would have his balls ripped off him by a pitbull terrier and then sold to one of the Pakistani delicatessens as 'sweet-meat'.

And then forcibly jet him off to Pakistan.

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Reply #25 - Mar 22^nd, 2014 at 12:59pm

Winston, rather than demanding us explain what FGM is to you, then complaining when you are treated like an imbecile, why don't you suggest under what circumstances you would support it?

miketrees wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2014 at 10:47am:

I see a problem where (as has happened already) some people take their girls overseas to have the butchery done in places that accept the procedure or don't enforce the laws.
Over time this practice will end but we must do all we can to stop it happening and speed up its end.

Sounds 'divisive'. Wouldn't it be better if we tried not to make waves?

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Reply #26 - Mar 22^nd, 2014 at 1:09pm

wally1 wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2014 at 12:40pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2014 at 12:25pm:

wally1 wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2014 at 7:47am:

If the doctor had deviated out of hospital norms or hasn't followed policies and procedures then of course he should be investigated and reprimanded.

'Reprimanded?

May I make a small suggestion?

How about he is given jail time, and then deported?

They would probably put conditions on his registration (example-no more surgery, further education, not to practice alone etc) or take his GP accreditation away from him for alittle while.

Walid

Female genital mutilation is barbaric and a criminal offence in Australia that will have you thrown in jail if you perform it or send your kids overseas to have it done.

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Penalties for performing female genital mutilation will increase from 7 to 21 years jail and it will become a crime to have the procedure done overseas.

A new offence of removing a person from NSW with the intention of having the procedure performed will also attract a maximum 21 years in jail.

Minister for Family and community services Pru Goward said FGM was an abhhorent offence.

These changes send the message loud and clear that no matter whether you are the doctor holding the scalpel, or the parent buying the plane ticket, the penalty will be the same

www.smh.com.au/nsw/female-genital-mutilation-penalties-tripled-in-nsw-20140205-3...

You should give this news to your Imam.

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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: 66,000 female genital Muslim mutilations in the UK Reply #27 - Mar 22^nd, 2014 at 1:14pm freediver wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2014 at 12:59pm: Sounds 'divisive'. Wouldn't it be better if we tried not to make waves? Touché. Come on Winston ... let's have one of your habitual one-liners again.
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Reply #28 - Mar 22^nd, 2014 at 1:14pm

freediver wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2014 at 12:59pm:

Winston, rather than demanding us explain what FGM is to you, then complaining when you are treated like an imbecile, why don't you suggest under what circumstances you would support it?

Winston Smith wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2014 at 8:32am:

freediver wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2014 at 8:24am:

Winston do you support FGM?

What would it entail?

I haven't made demands, my question remains unanswered.

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Reply #29 - Mar 22^nd, 2014 at 1:23pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2014 at 1:09pm:

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Penalties for performing female genital mutilation will increase from 7 to 21 years jail and it will become a crime to have the procedure done overseas.

A new offence of removing a person from NSW with the intention of having the procedure performed will also attract a maximum 21 years in jail.

Minister for Family and community services Pru Goward said FGM was an abhhorent offence.

These changes send the message loud and clear that no matter whether you are the doctor holding the scalpel, or the parent buying the plane ticket, the penalty will be the same

www.smh.com.au/nsw/female-genital-mutilation-penalties-tripled-in-nsw-20140205-3...

You should give this news to your Imam.

Does anyone really believe those penalties will be handed out in court?

Of course they won't be.

The Useful Idiots who sit as judges and magistrates in our courts will be finding every excuse possible to give these monsters the most minimal sentences possible.

When found, these girls should be given every assistance possible in restoring them to as they were before they became victims of Islamic cultural tradition.

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