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Asylum Seekers Processing Problems
Mar 22^nd, 2014 at 3:36pm

Bill Shorten recently called for new policy ideas for the Labor Party. Well here’s one.

Let’s have a new policy on asylum seekers.

The labor government when they were in power was trying to get a regional process centre up and running and no country in the region wanted to take it on board.

So why doesn’t the labor party bite the bullet and set the regional process centre on Australia soil and hand it over to the UNHCR to run? Australia could set some rules for it and throw some money in to run it.

We already have a detention centre on Christmas Island that could be used. We could fly asylum seekers in from Indonesia or Malaysia and process them on Christmas Island to see if they are fair dinkum refugees and if they are resettled them in any country the UNHCR says that is safe for them. If they are not found to be refugees fly them back to their original country. Anyone arrived by boat get flown to Manus Island, Nauru or Cambodia to get process and resettled in one of those countries. The only guaranteed that people arriving by boat is that they won’t be resettle in Australia if they are found to be refugees.

We should also have a time limit on how long asylum seekers can be keep in detention for health and security checks, they could be released into the community on Christmas Island once their Health and security checks are done and they are waiting for their refugee process is competed.

That is my take on process asylum seekers, if you got a better idea lets hear it.

Don’t worry all you rednecks racist people on here, don’t comment on this article because none of you have got a solution to the asylum seeker problem, you are all the bloody f$#^ing problem.

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Reply #1 - Mar 22^nd, 2014 at 3:43pm

John S wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2014 at 3:36pm:

Don’t worry all you rednecks racist people on here, don’t comment on this article because none of you have got a solution to the asylum seeker problem, you are all the bloody f$#^ing problem.

Most of them don't even know the difference between asylum seekers and refugees, and persecution and poverty.

Until they learn the basics, they have no right participating in any discource on the subject.

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Ex Dame Pansi Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 24168	Re: Asylum Seekers Processing Problems Reply #2 - Mar 22^nd, 2014 at 4:46pm Clive Palmer and pansi would like that. Great idea but..... there's still the problem of tinted people
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Armchair_Politician Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25981 Gender:	Re: Asylum Seekers Processing Problems Reply #3 - Mar 22^nd, 2014 at 4:57pm We don't have any problems with processing asylum seekers. We did have illegal immigrants until Abbott & Morrison came to office, but haven't had any in 90-odd days!
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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: Asylum Seekers Processing Problems Reply #4 - Mar 22^nd, 2014 at 5:05pm John S wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2014 at 3:36pm: So why doesn’t the labor party bite the bullet and set the regional process centre on Australia soil and hand it over to the UNHCR to run? Because that would actually attract boats not discourage them unwiseone...
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Rider Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2669 OnTheRoad Gender:	Re: Asylum Seekers Processing Problems Reply #5 - Mar 22^nd, 2014 at 7:10pm It just proves beyond doubt how out of touch Shorten and Labor are.....as if they could possibly offer a solution What freeken parallel universe are they inhabiting ?
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Reply #6 - Mar 22^nd, 2014 at 7:10pm

John S wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2014 at 3:36pm:

The labor government when they were in power was trying to get a regional process centre up and running and no country in the region wanted to take it on board.

Howard set up a regional processing centre for refugees that resettled refugees into other countries, Labor dismantled this regional processing centre that resettled refugees into other countries when they dismantled the Pacific solution.

The labor government was thrown out in the last election because Australians were sick of their lies, they have no hope of being re elected while they continue to tell lies.

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Reply #7 - Mar 22^nd, 2014 at 7:39pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2014 at 7:10pm:

The labor government was thrown out in the last election because Australians were sick of their lies, they have no hope of being re elected while they continue to tell lies.

I've never felt such a sense of the ridiculous as when the news cameras switch from Abbott or another Liberal politician, to then focus on a member of the Opposition to ask for his or her opinion.

These media Lefties must be joking.

We've just witnessed 6 embarrassingly incompetent years of the worst performance from any party in government since federation ~ and yet we're supposed to give a damn what Bill Shorten or any of the others have to say in reply to Abbott & Co?

Bill Shorten and his team should have the decency and the courtesy to simply shut up and keep as quiet as possible for the next few years after the hideous fiasco of the Gillard and Rudd years.

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Reply #8 - Mar 22^nd, 2014 at 9:14pm

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A while ago someone here said there were plans to build more facilities on Nauru and Manus Island. Well, the Nauru works are underway. (I read somewhere that work has begun on expanded facilities on Manus, too.) Clint Diedenang, on Nauru, tweets that clearing work for the first of three offshore processing centres to be built there has just begun. This one is just a few hundred metres from a school.

There has been a bit of discussion about why three more are needed if the boats are supposed to have stopped. Is Morrison planning to move asylum seekers who are already in Australia to Nauru? Is it in case Manus has to be closed after the UN finish investigating? Does Morrison know – but won’t say publicly – that once the monsoon season ends the boats will be back in numbers? All of the above?

If you use Twitter you might like to follow @clintd22, it’s the only way we have of knowing what’s going on there.

There are more puzzling border control developments.
It’s odd that we are now looking at buying more than 30 orange lifeboats at a cost of $7.5 million if the boats have stopped. It’s odd that we are spending $3 billion on drones that will be used to spot ‘boats’ if the boats have stopped. It’s odd that we are going to spend $5.7 million on intelligence gathering technology so someone can locate ”security threats” on the water before they reach Australian shores.

If the boats have stopped because Morrison’s polcies are so effective then why all this spending on something that allegedly isn’t happening? The answer is obvious – Morrison and Abbott have no hope of stopping anything, they are full of hot air. Their border protection policy has failed, they have lost controil of the budget for the portfolio and are now spending like drunken sailors in an attempt to deflect attention.

http://pbxmastragics.com/2014/03/21/flop-into-friday/comment-page-3/#comment-125...

$3Bn on drones! Geez, Little Johnny’s faux Pacific Solution only cost $1Bn! And if the drones penetrate Indo air space? My god.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 137820 Gender:	Re: Asylum Seekers Processing Problems Reply #9 - Mar 22^nd, 2014 at 9:26pm Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2014 at 4:57pm: We don't have any problems with processing asylum seekers. We did have illegal immigrants until Abbott & Morrison came to office, but haven't had any in 90-odd days! Incorrect: the planes are still coming.
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Reply #10 - Mar 22^nd, 2014 at 10:05pm

Typical lefty a hole. You cant tell others not to post on this forum.

It is quite clear that your ilk should not be in power. This is the type of crap policy on the run that labor was famous for. Not one brain cell goes to consequence with you lot.

You would still get the boats, because if you fly them over, they would have to be indentified first Are you suggesting we put hijackers on planes, hope they dont do a 911, then process them with a sigh of relief.

Yeh good thinkin. You should join labor's policy on the run team. Be quick, they are running past right now.

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Reply #12 - Mar 23^rd, 2014 at 4:07am

Swagman wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2014 at 5:05pm:

John S wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2014 at 3:36pm:

So why doesn’t the labor party bite the bullet and set the regional process centre on Australia soil and hand it over to the UNHCR to run?

Because that would actually attract boats not discourage them unwiseone...

If people are suffering hunger and persecution, nothing will stop them trying to escape.

So little information is provided by this Lips Sealed

government we really have no idea what is going on.

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Reply #13 - Mar 23^rd, 2014 at 5:18am

Peter Freedman wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2014 at 4:07am:

Swagman wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2014 at 5:05pm:

John S wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2014 at 3:36pm:

So why doesn’t the labor party bite the bullet and set the regional process centre on Australia soil and hand it over to the UNHCR to run?

Because that would actually attract boats not discourage them unwiseone...

If people are suffering hunger and persecution, nothing will stop them trying to escape.

So little information is provided by this Lips Sealed

government we really have no idea what is going on.

There's plenty of info, you just don't like it . Also, the people on those boats that used to come here are economic migrants, they're coming purely for financial gain. We saw on the 730 Report what they REALLY think of us: f-Australia, "I'm going to kill you Navy people!". Not the type of people I'd ever want to see here.

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Reply #14 - Mar 23^rd, 2014 at 7:30am

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2014 at 9:26pm:

Incorrect: the planes are still coming.

And landing in Indonesia?

I hope so. Let's see how long it takes for the Indonesians to find the will to stop the prospective 'boat-people' from passing through their Customs without being detained for immediate return from whence they've come.

They're stuck with a dilemma: If they accept these jet-setting 'asylum-seeker' frauds it will soon result in them flooding themselves with these Middle Easterners ... and if they start returning these jet-setters, it will prove that they could have done this all along.

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