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Re: British troops slaugthering innocent afghans.
Reply #15 - Mar 24^th, 2014 at 3:19pm

Rhet-Oracle wrote on Mar 24^th, 2014 at 3:05pm:

wally1 wrote on Mar 24^th, 2014 at 2:05pm:

Rhet-Oracle wrote on Mar 24^th, 2014 at 1:10pm:

Stratos wrote on Mar 24^th, 2014 at 12:57pm:

Rhet-Oracle wrote on Mar 24^th, 2014 at 12:24pm:

This is an article from The Mail and was included in a book written by an Officer in The Rifles Regiment now retired. It should be taken with a pinch of salt as the person is using it to sell his book. The soldiers shot insurgents carrying guns and he has admitted that they at first were firing warning shots but when senior officers found out they were ordered to stop the practice and shoot anybody approaching them who was armed. Sounds like a sensible thing to do under the circumstances.

Slaughtering innocents is incorrect, they were armed, the thread title gives the wrong impression.

Odd how on one level you are trying to discredit it as a flawed source, yet are perfectly illing to jump to the conclusion that being armed makes someone guilty by default, even if they are clearly no threat to them, as was stated.

I would say that being armed in a country like Afghanistan unless you are in uniform, especially Helmand, is generally a good indication that you are more likely than not an insurgent, or a fool, therefore I would have to say that if I were a soldier I would treat you as the enemy and shoot you. Not odd, quite logical if you want to stay in one piece.

Also I consider an ex officer who uses the term "Turkey Shoot" in regards to his men is less than a reliable source, and he discredits himself by using that term whilst trying to make money out of a book he just happened to write.

If the major had written a book about the evil Taliban and how they hate our western style, he will still sell books.

So to say the major is dealing with lies to sell his book is a pretty low act.

He is just coming out with the truth.

Yes indeed, "a pretty low act" to infer that your men were complicit in a "Turkey Shoot". And how do you know he is telling the truth?

How could it not be the truth?

It’s a war. As if they’re not going to shoot people. The US carry cash around to pay family members for accidentally shooting them.

If anyone even looks like the Taliban, we’re hardly going to wait for them to show their weapons and identify themselves.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49581 At my desk.	Re: British troops slaugthering innocent afghans. Reply #16 - Mar 24^th, 2014 at 7:00pm So how come the Afghans never figured out that they should leave their weapons behind when they approach the bases? The first ingredient for a turkey shoot is a rafter.
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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: British troops slaugthering innocent afghans. Reply #17 - Mar 24^th, 2014 at 7:07pm I can't believe our soldiers have been picking on the Afghans. Particularly given they are such a lovely, friendly happy-go-lucky peaceful lot. They have only been at war internally for the 2,000 years before we arrived.....
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wally1 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2055 Gender:	Re: British troops slaugthering innocent afghans. Reply #18 - Mar 24^th, 2014 at 9:10pm freediver wrote on Mar 24^th, 2014 at 7:00pm: So how come the Afghans never figured out that they should leave their weapons behind when they approach the bases? The first ingredient for a turkey shoot is a rafter. Because its there country and the Brits should piss off.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49581 At my desk.	Re: British troops slaugthering innocent afghans. Reply #19 - Mar 24^th, 2014 at 9:22pm That doesn't make it hurt any less when you get shot.
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Re: British troops slaugthering innocent afghans.
Reply #20 - Mar 24^th, 2014 at 10:26pm

wally1 wrote on Mar 24^th, 2014 at 2:05pm:

Rhet-Oracle wrote on Mar 24^th, 2014 at 1:10pm:

Stratos wrote on Mar 24^th, 2014 at 12:57pm:

Rhet-Oracle wrote on Mar 24^th, 2014 at 12:24pm:

This is an article from The Mail and was included in a book written by an Officer in The Rifles Regiment now retired. It should be taken with a pinch of salt as the person is using it to sell his book. The soldiers shot insurgents carrying guns and he has admitted that they at first were firing warning shots but when senior officers found out they were ordered to stop the practice and shoot anybody approaching them who was armed. Sounds like a sensible thing to do under the circumstances.

Slaughtering innocents is incorrect, they were armed, the thread title gives the wrong impression.

Odd how on one level you are trying to discredit it as a flawed source, yet are perfectly illing to jump to the conclusion that being armed makes someone guilty by default, even if they are clearly no threat to them, as was stated.

I would say that being armed in a country like Afghanistan unless you are in uniform, especially Helmand, is generally a good indication that you are more likely than not an insurgent, or a fool, therefore I would have to say that if I were a soldier I would treat you as the enemy and shoot you. Not odd, quite logical if you want to stay in one piece.

Also I consider an ex officer who uses the term "Turkey Shoot" in regards to his men is less than a reliable source, and he discredits himself by using that term whilst trying to make money out of a book he just happened to write.

If the major had written a book about the evil Taliban and how they hate our western style, he will still sell books.

So to say the major is dealing with lies to sell his book is a pretty low act.

He is just coming out with the truth.

The leftists would not buy a book on the devout muslims called the Taliban, they would prefer to read sensationalist crap.

It was a turkey shoot,look how few of the coalition soldiers were killed by the Taliban in over a decade,The Japs killed more at Pearl harbour in a few hours, the Germans killed more in an hour.

The Iraqi's put up speed bump type resistance to invading forces, that was a turkey shoot as well.

The Australian soldiers have something called rules of engagement, they could not shoot unless they were fired on.

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