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The Gender Gap
Mar 25^th, 2014 at 6:57am

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The gap between men and women has narrowed slightly in the past year in most countries, according to a World Economic Forum (WEF) report.

Iceland, Finland and Norway top the list of 136 nations, based on political participation, economic equality and rights like education and health. The Middle East and North Africa were the only regions not to improve in the past year, with Yemen at the bottom. The Philippines and Nicaragua both feature in the top 10.

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Iceland's position at the top of the WEF rankings was the fifth year in a row the country has been named the world's most equal.

Report founder and co-author Saadia Zahidi told the BBC that since the WEF began compiling the index in 2006, 80% of countries had made progress. "What's worrying though is that 20% of countries have made no progress or are falling behind," she said.

She singled out the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia as countries that had invested in education and health, but had not integrated women into the economy.

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Overall, the report, entitled Global Gender Gap Report 2013, found Iceland to be the most advanced country in the world in terms of gender equality for the fifth year running.

Iceland, Finland (second), Norway (third) and Sweden (fourth) had all closed over 80% of the gender gap, where 100% would represent full equality. The highest-ranked Asian nation was the Philippines (fifth), praised for its success in health, education and economic participation. Asia's major economies performed poorly, with China in 69th place and Japan 105th. Nicaragua in 10th place was the highest positioned country in North and South America, and was praised for a "strong performance" in terms of political empowerment. Among major world economies Germany ranked 14th (down one), the UK held its position at 18, with Canada at 20 and the United States 23rd.

On matters of health and survival, the report finds that 96% of the gap has now closed.

In terms of education, the global gender gap is 93% closed, with 25 countries now judged to deliver equal treatment to boys and girls at school.

It is a different picture on the core issue of economic equality, where the gender gap has closed by 60%.

In developing and developed countries alike, women's presence in economic leadership positions is limited.

And while women have made small gains in political representation - 2% this year - only 21% of that global gender gap has closed

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"Women make up one half of the human capital available to any economy and any company; if that talent isn't integrated, that is going to be a loss for both women and men," she said.

http://www.weforum.org/reports/global-gender-gap-report-2013

In case you're wondering, Australia came in at number 24, just behind the USA.

I don't think I'll be packing my bags and moving to Iceland though.....

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Reply #1 - Mar 25^th, 2014 at 11:39am

Frances - you are more than aware by now that there is no 'wage gap' here - no woman receives less than she works for in whatever field she is in.

As for health and education - since the 1980's education here has been along the lines of the 'box ticking' mediocrity rather than the dominance of brilliance - and women tend to be better at 'box ticking' than men. As a result women make up the predominance of graduates these days - meaning they get a shoe in to the well paid and easy jobs.

As for health - vastly more money goes into women's health issues than into men's. Now you can argue that women have some very different issues in health etc - fine - but let us not try to make suggestions that women are missing out more than men in the health budgets.

Political representation figures? Go - get elected! Join the Grappler Party - EVERY candidate will be totally on merit - and not public service merit, and gender has nothing to do with it, especially in terms of some mythical 'need' to create 'equal' numbers. Election is by vote of the people - not by imposition to suit an agenda.

CEO jobs? EARN THIS!

Now - show me that horizon - the one where women are doing it harder than men are these days....

Figures trotted out by some silly and obviously slanted body with a clear agenda are meaningless to us here - they may have some reality in India or Faroffistan - but not here - and we have more to concern ourselves with right here and now with the looming disaster this country is set to become than engaging in the luxury item of feminist international communism.

The suffering women of Faroffistan have my sympathies - I would help them if I could - but I'm afraid for far too many Australians them alligators are too thick here at the moment.

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Winston Smith Gold Member Offline Ministry of Truth Posts: 1549 Oceania Gender:	Re: The Gender Gap Reply #2 - Mar 25^th, 2014 at 12:34pm I'm going to let you off the hook here Grappler, because I'm not interested in following you down the rabbit hole at this juncture. I'm just letting you know that I can dismantle you at will, to keep you on your toes and looking over your shoulder each time you feel emboldened to share your misogynistic urges.
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Reply #4 - Mar 25^th, 2014 at 1:04pm

Winston Smith wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 12:34pm:

I'm going to let you off the hook here Grappler, because I'm not interested in following you down the rabbit hole at this juncture. I'm just letting you know that I can dismantle you at will, to keep you on your toes and looking over your shoulder each time you feel emboldened to share your misogynistic urges. Wink

Men get higher pay because it is society's expectation of them to do particular types of work. Increasingly women are being able to do the same work, thanks to mechanization. Now if they do take up the option of doing the same jobs, men by default become displaced. And as men are incapable of having children, and as that role is already occupied anyhow, what then should become of them?

Should we abandon 'society' for the sake of "Freedom".

Winston, as always the weakness is in the lack of substance to your posts.

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Reply #5 - Mar 25^th, 2014 at 1:14pm

GA wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 1:04pm:

Winston Smith wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 12:34pm:

I'm going to let you off the hook here Grappler, because I'm not interested in following you down the rabbit hole at this juncture. I'm just letting you know that I can dismantle you at will, to keep you on your toes and looking over your shoulder each time you feel emboldened to share your misogynistic urges. Wink

Men get higher pay because it is society's expectation of them to do particular types of work. Increasingly women are being able to do the same work, thanks to mechanization. No if they do take up the option of doing the same jobs, men by default become displaced. And as men are incapable of having children, and as that role is already occupied anyhow, what then should become of them? Should we abandon 'society' for the sake of "Freedom".

Winston, as always the weakness is in the lack of substance to your posts.

GA, as always the weakness is in baited strawman fallacy.

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Re: The Gender Gap
Reply #6 - Mar 25^th, 2014 at 1:27pm

Down in Downtown Iceland Central:-

"Sven! You are ruining Women Equality here! You must employ same number of women gutting fish as men!"

"It is not mein fault! They are all off having babies!"

Ah yes - the old "misogynist" line that seeks to cancel out truth and facts....

Heeeey - what became of our friendly little lady oppressed for generations who discussed 'monkeys' all the time, apparently in reference to those mischievous misogynists who refuse to permit her ideology full sway, and who refuse to get on board some nation-wide jihad to cure her and her family's personal issues one at a time (in classical feminist mode - "I'll just get the government to bash you misogynists into line then"? Grin

Was that a sock?

ADDS:- Oh - my misogynist tendencies' include that each candidate for The Grappler Party will be chosen by the local branch. There is no mention of gender involved - nor will there ever be any 'affirmative action' - the purest discrimination available - for anyone.

Issues, my son - issues. Can you refute one of my comments?

Show me that horizon.... show me these endless ranks of oppressed women in AUSTRALIA today...... in situations that are not aberrations and do not already have a remedy in place - like our little sock lady - if she was kept under the thumb like her mummy and her granny - there are remedies in place..... but not a national jihad against all men as advocated by feminism.

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Winston Smith Gold Member Offline Ministry of Truth Posts: 1549 Oceania Gender:	Re: The Gender Gap Reply #7 - Mar 25^th, 2014 at 1:58pm Upon reflection, I realise the reason I'm so hard on you Grappler, is because I respect you and feel frustrated that you let yourself down.
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Reply #8 - Mar 25^th, 2014 at 2:00pm

Winston Smith wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 1:14pm:

GA wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 1:04pm:

Winston Smith wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 12:34pm:

I'm going to let you off the hook here Grappler, because I'm not interested in following you down the rabbit hole at this juncture. I'm just letting you know that I can dismantle you at will, to keep you on your toes and looking over your shoulder each time you feel emboldened to share your misogynistic urges. Wink

Men get higher pay because it is society's expectation of them to do particular types of work. Increasingly women are being able to do the same work, thanks to mechanization. No if they do take up the option of doing the same jobs, men by default become displaced. And as men are incapable of having children, and as that role is already occupied anyhow, what then should become of them? Should we abandon 'society' for the sake of "Freedom".

Winston, as always the weakness is in the lack of substance to your posts.

GA, as always the weakness is in baited strawman fallacy.

Winston, as long as you insist on being an ASS (arrogant sack of sh1t), don't bother responding with one line to what is something that at least presents itself as an argument.

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Re: The Gender Gap
Reply #9 - Mar 25^th, 2014 at 2:15pm

Winston Smith wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 1:58pm:

Upon reflection, I realise the reason I'm so hard on you Grappler, is because I respect you and feel frustrated that you let yourself down.

Ye-uzzz... well - I am rather likable - sort of in the tradition of Jack Sparrow.

Once a rogue always a rogue..... but I do like to stick it to the feminist line - though I can assure you I adore women... as women.......

Why is the rum always gone?

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Reply #10 - Mar 25^th, 2014 at 2:15pm

GA wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 2:00pm:

Winston Smith wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 1:14pm:

GA wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 1:04pm:

Winston Smith wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 12:34pm:

I'm going to let you off the hook here Grappler, because I'm not interested in following you down the rabbit hole at this juncture. I'm just letting you know that I can dismantle you at will, to keep you on your toes and looking over your shoulder each time you feel emboldened to share your misogynistic urges. Wink

Men get higher pay because it is society's expectation of them to do particular types of work. Increasingly women are being able to do the same work, thanks to mechanization. No if they do take up the option of doing the same jobs, men by default become displaced. And as men are incapable of having children, and as that role is already occupied anyhow, what then should become of them? Should we abandon 'society' for the sake of "Freedom".

Winston, as always the weakness is in the lack of substance to your posts.

GA, as always the weakness is in baited strawman fallacy.

Winston, as long as you insist on being an ASS (arrogant sack of sh1t), don't bother responding with one line to what is something that at least presents itself as an argument.

As I pointed out in my first post, I don't want to get into a debate on this particular subject, it's more complex than I have the time or patience for right now. If you want to ask me a question or are interested in my opinion on a subject, feel free to politely approach me in a clear and coherent manner. I won't be drawn into an exchange of petty insults with you, if you want to have a discussion about something, please be courteous and I will be more than happy to respond.

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Re: The Gender Gap
Reply #11 - Mar 25^th, 2014 at 2:16pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 2:15pm:

Winston Smith wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 1:58pm:

Upon reflection, I realise the reason I'm so hard on you Grappler, is because I respect you and feel frustrated that you let yourself down.

Ye-uzzz... well - I am rather likable - sort of in the tradition of Jack Sparrow.

Once a rogue always a rogue..... but I do like to stick it to the feminist line - though I can assure you I adore women... as women.......

http://media1.giphy.com/media/11FHKbYOYB6GtO/200_s.gif

Why is the rum always gone?

Yes, Jack Sparrow is a good analogy.

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Re: The Gender Gap
Reply #12 - Mar 25^th, 2014 at 2:19pm

Winston Smith wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 1:58pm:

Upon reflection, I realise the reason I'm so hard on you Grappler, is because I respect you and feel frustrated that you let yourself down.

Grappler and the other chauvinists are the best 'friends' feminism has ever had. And that's because mistake #1 is for a male to attack women in 'any' way. Ignoring the fact that women (or females in general) are not to blame for any of societies problems anyhow. For example, single parents (mostly women) are the 'victims' not the 'victorious' members of society. But they are the 'collateral' damage in a war that's being waged between our chromosomes. The target being "males" regardless of their age, or for that matter their state of development (male embryos will also be targeted).

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Reply #13 - Mar 25^th, 2014 at 2:26pm

Winston Smith wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 2:15pm:

GA wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 2:00pm:

Winston Smith wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 1:14pm:

GA wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 1:04pm:

Winston Smith wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 12:34pm:

I'm going to let you off the hook here Grappler, because I'm not interested in following you down the rabbit hole at this juncture. I'm just letting you know that I can dismantle you at will, to keep you on your toes and looking over your shoulder each time you feel emboldened to share your misogynistic urges. Wink

Men get higher pay because it is society's expectation of them to do particular types of work. Increasingly women are being able to do the same work, thanks to mechanization. No if they do take up the option of doing the same jobs, men by default become displaced. And as men are incapable of having children, and as that role is already occupied anyhow, what then should become of them? Should we abandon 'society' for the sake of "Freedom".

Winston, as always the weakness is in the lack of substance to your posts.

GA, as always the weakness is in baited strawman fallacy.

Winston, as long as you insist on being an ASS (arrogant sack of sh1t), don't bother responding with one line to what is something that at least presents itself as an argument.

As I pointed out in my first post, I don't want to get into a debate on this particular subject, it's more complex than I have the time or patience for right now. If you want to ask me a question or are interested in my opinion on a subject, feel free to politely approach me in a clear and coherent manner. I won't be drawn into an exchange of petty insults with you, if you want to have a discussion about something, please be courteous and I will be more than happy to respond.

You dumb ASS, what is this thread supposed to be about? Why is it that you narcissists always think a topic is what you decide it's going to be. It's 'The Gender Gap' we are discussing, if you " don't want to get into a debate on this particular subject" then don't post to it, you arrogant sack of sh1t..

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