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Reply #15 - Mar 25th, 2014 at 6:43pm
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 2:52pm:
You overlooked UK where women are set to dominate since male homosexuality was made compulsory.


Gay marriage will be the legal precedent needed to set the world in a direction that will eventually lead to complete female control, and the elimination of all males.

Why & How:

Why? It's not actually gays that are driving the gay marriage issue for example, they are too small in number to make a real difference by themselves. It takes majority support to make these kind of changes. And the majority is acting out of sympathy, their soft side is making the decision. Logic doesn't get a look in. And because the strength of the left is often represented by 'intellectuals', they don't want to consider the possibility that they might be wrong and that the likes of the late rabid Fred Phelps might possibly be right (heaven forbid no). 

How? Gay marriage as a right will be to the advantage of women who want to marry other women, not those males who want to get married to each other. Women can have children, men can't, men would have to either adopt or arrange surrogate mothers to have their children, either way they can't have the discriminating effect needed to upset the gender balance. Add to that the failure of conventional marriage, which is really a distorted statistic in the sense that failed marriages would be represented by those couples who mutually or equally decided to go their own way. What I mean is that what passes for a failed marriage is in fact more likely caused by the discarding of the husband/father. And then there is the new emerging single parenting parent, who chooses to have no involvement with a man other than to have him father the child. 

And what we have to keep in mind is that women, like men, have a preference for hanging around with each other. Men and women only really come together to procreate, it might look different, but that's only due to a set of rules, the 'boyfriend and girlfriend' rules, and marriage creating a 'partnership' arrangement. But 'marriage' itself isn't 'natural' it's an imposition designed as an enhancement to the survival of 'society' as a whole, not necessarily the survival of the 'species' itself. What I mean is even if society were to fall apart (as it's already doing, but doesn't acknowledge) human beings would still go on existing. 

But why then are women behaving like this? It's because for example motivators such as 'equality', 'independence', 'freedom' etc. are striking a chord with their (and our) soft side. The side of us that registers justice and fairness. And by these 'emotivators' being spread by mass communications like TV, in movies and publications, locally and eventually all over the world.

So if gay marriage is legalized in the US, it might amount to being the point of no return. The 'gender gap' will eventually cease to exist, all that will be left are homo and 'mono' women.
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Reply #16 - Mar 25th, 2014 at 7:17pm
 
GA wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 2:19pm:
Winston Smith wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 1:58pm:
Upon reflection, I realise the reason I'm so hard on you Grappler, is because I respect you and feel frustrated that you let yourself down.


Grappler and the other chauvinists are the best 'friends' feminism has ever had. And that's because mistake #1 is for a male to attack women in 'any' way. Ignoring the fact that women (or females in general) are not to blame for any of societies problems anyhow. For example, single parents (mostly women) are the 'victims' not the 'victorious' members of society. But they are the 'collateral' damage in a war that's being waged between our chromosomes. The target being "males" regardless of their age, or for that matter their state of development (male embryos will also be targeted).


Oh I dunno....I'd say they're to blame for about half. 

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Reply #17 - Mar 26th, 2014 at 12:09pm
 
GA wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 2:26pm:
Winston Smith wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 2:15pm:
GA wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 2:00pm:
Winston Smith wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 1:14pm:
GA wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 1:04pm:
Winston Smith wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 12:34pm:
I'm going to let you off the hook here Grappler, because I'm not interested in following you down the rabbit hole at this juncture. I'm just letting you know that I can dismantle you at will, to keep you on your toes and looking over your shoulder each time you feel emboldened to share your misogynistic urges. Wink


Men get higher pay because it is society's expectation of them to do particular types of work. Increasingly women are being able to do the same work, thanks to mechanization. No if they do take up the option of doing the same jobs, men by default become displaced. And as men are incapable of having children, and as that role is already occupied anyhow, what then should become of them? Should we abandon 'society' for the sake of "Freedom".


Winston, as always the weakness is in the lack of substance to your posts.


GA, as always the weakness is in baited strawman fallacy.


Winston, as long as you insist on being an ASS (arrogant sack of sh1t), don't bother responding with one line to what is something that at least presents itself as an argument.


As I pointed out in my first post, I don't want to get into a debate on this particular subject, it's more complex than I have the time or patience for right now. If you want to ask me a question or are interested in my opinion on a subject, feel free to politely approach me in a clear and coherent manner. I won't be drawn into an exchange of petty insults with you, if you want to have a discussion about something, please be courteous and I will be more than happy to respond.


You dumb ASS, what is this thread supposed to be about? Why is it that you narcissists always think a topic is what you decide it's going to be. It's 'The Gender Gap' we are discussing, if you " don't want to get into a debate on this particular subject" then don't post to it, you arrogant sack of sh1t..


I don't engage with you because I'm not interested. Your lack of comprehension is not my failing. Resorting to personal abuse only diminishes you in my sight. Kiss
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Reply #18 - Mar 26th, 2014 at 12:33pm
 
Winston Smith wrote on Mar 26th, 2014 at 12:09pm:
GA wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 2:26pm:
Winston Smith wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 2:15pm:
GA wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 2:00pm:
Winston Smith wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 1:14pm:
GA wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 1:04pm:
Winston Smith wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 12:34pm:
I'm going to let you off the hook here Grappler, because I'm not interested in following you down the rabbit hole at this juncture. I'm just letting you know that I can dismantle you at will, to keep you on your toes and looking over your shoulder each time you feel emboldened to share your misogynistic urges. Wink


Men get higher pay because it is society's expectation of them to do particular types of work. Increasingly women are being able to do the same work, thanks to mechanization. No if they do take up the option of doing the same jobs, men by default become displaced. And as men are incapable of having children, and as that role is already occupied anyhow, what then should become of them? Should we abandon 'society' for the sake of "Freedom".


Winston, as always the weakness is in the lack of substance to your posts.


GA, as always the weakness is in baited strawman fallacy.


Winston, as long as you insist on being an ASS (arrogant sack of sh1t), don't bother responding with one line to what is something that at least presents itself as an argument.


As I pointed out in my first post, I don't want to get into a debate on this particular subject, it's more complex than I have the time or patience for right now. If you want to ask me a question or are interested in my opinion on a subject, feel free to politely approach me in a clear and coherent manner. I won't be drawn into an exchange of petty insults with you, if you want to have a discussion about something, please be courteous and I will be more than happy to respond.


You dumb ASS, what is this thread supposed to be about? Why is it that you narcissists always think a topic is what you decide it's going to be. It's 'The Gender Gap' we are discussing, if you " don't want to get into a debate on this particular subject" then don't post to it, you arrogant sack of sh1t..


I don't engage with you because I'm not interested. Your lack of comprehension is not my failing. Resorting to personal abuse only diminishes you in my sight. Kiss


You are so lofty you'd believe you're looking down on everyone, so I'm happy being with the majority. Besides, who'd want to be someone that Winston looks up to anyhow (not that even considers God as being above him).
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Reply #19 - Mar 26th, 2014 at 12:49pm
 
GA wrote on Mar 26th, 2014 at 12:33pm:
Winston Smith wrote on Mar 26th, 2014 at 12:09pm:
GA wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 2:26pm:
Winston Smith wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 2:15pm:
GA wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 2:00pm:
Winston Smith wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 1:14pm:
GA wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 1:04pm:
Winston Smith wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 12:34pm:
I'm going to let you off the hook here Grappler, because I'm not interested in following you down the rabbit hole at this juncture. I'm just letting you know that I can dismantle you at will, to keep you on your toes and looking over your shoulder each time you feel emboldened to share your misogynistic urges. Wink


Men get higher pay because it is society's expectation of them to do particular types of work. Increasingly women are being able to do the same work, thanks to mechanization. No if they do take up the option of doing the same jobs, men by default become displaced. And as men are incapable of having children, and as that role is already occupied anyhow, what then should become of them? Should we abandon 'society' for the sake of "Freedom".


Winston, as always the weakness is in the lack of substance to your posts.


GA, as always the weakness is in baited strawman fallacy.


Winston, as long as you insist on being an ASS (arrogant sack of sh1t), don't bother responding with one line to what is something that at least presents itself as an argument.


As I pointed out in my first post, I don't want to get into a debate on this particular subject, it's more complex than I have the time or patience for right now. If you want to ask me a question or are interested in my opinion on a subject, feel free to politely approach me in a clear and coherent manner. I won't be drawn into an exchange of petty insults with you, if you want to have a discussion about something, please be courteous and I will be more than happy to respond.


You dumb ASS, what is this thread supposed to be about? Why is it that you narcissists always think a topic is what you decide it's going to be. It's 'The Gender Gap' we are discussing, if you " don't want to get into a debate on this particular subject" then don't post to it, you arrogant sack of sh1t..


I don't engage with you because I'm not interested. Your lack of comprehension is not my failing. Resorting to personal abuse only diminishes you in my sight. Kiss


You are so lofty you'd believe you're looking down on everyone, so I'm happy being with the majority. Besides, who'd want to be someone that Winston looks up to anyhow (not that even considers God as being above him).


Labelling others to attack only lessens you.
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Reply #20 - Mar 26th, 2014 at 7:26pm
 
Just tell me when the policies for equalising the life expectancy gap between men and women are in place.
Until then STFU
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Reply #21 - Mar 26th, 2014 at 11:39pm
 
miketrees wrote on Mar 26th, 2014 at 7:26pm:
Just tell me when the policies for equalising the life expectancy gap between men and women are in place.
Until then STFU


... and health care expenditure.. and affirmative action for those in real need... and educational opportunities for those with talent and who had a harsh upbringing... and one year 'enlistments' in the Army to learn to drive a forklift and claim the kudos... and equitable outcomes in political positions and CEO jobs... and so on and so on.

But I suppose those realities make me a misogynist...

I think it's about time for everyone to drop these ridiculous emotive epithets and start dealing with facts and realities.
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Reply #22 - Mar 27th, 2014 at 4:58am
 
GA wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 1:04pm:
Now if they do take up the option of doing the same jobs, men by default become displaced. And  ... what then should become of them?

Should we abandon 'society' for the sake of "Freedom".


Precisely.

I was there to witness what happens when women are put onto production machines that were once the province of husbands earning the wherewithal to pay off a mortgage while providing for their family.

Alas, no more.

Middle aged women on factory machines are ensuring a double-income for themselves and their husbands while their house is already paid off and their children have left home ... with meanwhile the displaced young husbands are standing in the dole queues no longer able to afford to service a mortgage repayment, and now live in rented premises with a pregnant young wife and government rental assistance.

An assets test should be applied to middle aged women applying for a job.

If their circumstance is one of already having achieved the purchase of a house and the raising of their children, then priorities should eliminate them from the workforce if young people are standing in the dole queues.

There's greed and plenty on the one hand, while others are unemployed, impoverished, and stuck in the rental trap.

Middle aged ethnics going for their third or fourth property purchase ... while young ones are condemned to a lifetime of struggling between the dole and casual work.



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Reply #23 - Mar 27th, 2014 at 12:30pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 27th, 2014 at 4:58am:
GA wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 1:04pm:
Now if they do take up the option of doing the same jobs, men by default become displaced. And  ... what then should become of them?

Should we abandon 'society' for the sake of "Freedom".


Precisely.

I was there to witness what happens when women are put onto production machines that were once the province of husbands earning the wherewithal to pay off a mortgage while providing for their family.

Alas, no more.

Middle aged women on factory machines are ensuring a double-income for themselves and their husbands while their house is already paid off and their children have left home ... with meanwhile the displaced young husbands are standing in the dole queues no longer able to afford to service a mortgage repayment, and now live in rented premises with a pregnant young wife and government rental assistance.

An assets test should be applied to middle aged women applying for a job.

If their circumstance is one of already having achieved the purchase of a house and the raising of their children, then priorities should eliminate them from the workforce if young people are standing in the dole queues.

There's greed and plenty on the one hand, while others are unemployed, impoverished, and stuck in the rental trap.

Middle aged ethnics going for their third or fourth property purchase ... while young ones are condemned to a lifetime of struggling between the dole and casual work.





Have to agree, Sir Herbert, but please - no ethnic slurs.

I've advocated a priority list for employment - those already in a family situation with an income above a certain level etc are set aside to allow employment of the unemployed first - then the under-employed and so forth.

Such a system could be and will be inevitably installed by a 'strong, centralised government' of one 'side' or the other - and of course , such a proposal will draw the inevitable screams of 'fascist/communist' etc.

Well it IS totally socio-fascist - but what options are left when those out there who handle the jobs market are as unruly and stupid and selfish as a bunch of kids?

You rightly see a growing social and economic divide - I just read an article elsewhere that said that 40% of kids in their twenties now would never marry - how then achieve the Nirvana required today of the MADIF?

ONLY by an unceasing demand for upward movement of INCOME for the individual - an inevitable step that will defeat the whole process and create more and more problems of 'cost of living' and 'excessive wages'.

So - as before - either the employers get their shlt together and start to employ the unemployed first and put on the back burner those who already have their basic life - totally socialist there!! - or the government will one day soon step in and 'make that hard decision' for them.

It's either that or a revolution.

ADDS:-  For those gain-sayers - the inevitable result is a lowering of the cost of labour - also a reduction in the cost of homes etc due to a lowered investor market - and consequently a beginning - along with considerable angst - of the return to some form of sanity in our economic and social models, and the restoration of some hope for the young ones these days of a decent life and retirement.

I've done every hard yard and more - I can take it - but I did not do those things so my children and their children would do it hard.

And be advised - a society pays for its mistakes such as these in some way or other .  Harken unto the ceaseless whining here about 'dole bludgers', who should ' get a job'... as if there are jobs out there waiting for them to step into.

when a society deliberately sets out to create a permanent underclass - as did this one starting in the 1980's - then it must be prepared to pay for the development of an 'underworld', a black market, and all that goes with it.

Put simply - people have to eat and prosper somehow - if they cannot do so by the sweat of their brows - they will do it off the fat of the oppressors.
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Reply #24 - Mar 28th, 2014 at 8:15am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 27th, 2014 at 12:30pm:

Have to agree, Sir Herbert, but please - no ethnic slurs.


They were all, without exception, ethnic women from the Mediterranean region expressing their contribution to Australia's multicultural diversity ... but okay, I'll hush my mouth and ignore this elephant in the room.  Tongue

Excellent post, George.


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Reply #25 - Mar 28th, 2014 at 8:30am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 28th, 2014 at 8:15am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 27th, 2014 at 12:30pm:

Have to agree, Sir Herbert, but please - no ethnic slurs.


They were all, without exception, ethnic women from the Mediterranean region expressing their contribution to Australia's multicultural diversity ... but okay, I'll hush my mouth and ignore this elephant in the room.  Tongue

Excellent post, George.




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Reply #26 - Mar 28th, 2014 at 8:50am
 
Winston Smith wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 12:34pm:
I'm going to let you off the hook here Grappler, because I'm not interested in following you down the rabbit hole at this juncture. I'm just letting you know that I can dismantle you at will, to keep you on your toes and looking over your shoulder each time you feel emboldened to share your misogynistic urges. Wink


I am a swinging voter and even voted for Gillard in 2010. But her misogyny speech was the final straw in my intense disappointment at how a women could so blatantly demonstrate the sexism she claimed to oppose. Her definition of misogyny was appalling and her use of it, worse.

In first-world countries like ours, the gender-gap has largely closed and disappeared.  Women have the same pay and opportunities as men and is demonstrated in the workforce in general.  Grappler's point is largely quite valid.
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Reply #27 - Mar 28th, 2014 at 9:23am
 
Winston Smith wrote on Mar 28th, 2014 at 8:30am:
Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 28th, 2014 at 8:15am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 27th, 2014 at 12:30pm:

Have to agree, Sir Herbert, but please - no ethnic slurs.


They were all, without exception, ethnic women from the Mediterranean region expressing their contribution to Australia's multicultural diversity ... but okay, I'll hush my mouth and ignore this elephant in the room.  Tongue

Excellent post, George.




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Excellent post, Grappler.
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Reply #28 - Mar 28th, 2014 at 9:58am
 
... wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 7:17pm:
GA wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 2:19pm:
Winston Smith wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 1:58pm:
Upon reflection, I realise the reason I'm so hard on you Grappler, is because I respect you and feel frustrated that you let yourself down.


Grappler and the other chauvinists are the best 'friends' feminism has ever had. And that's because mistake #1 is for a male to attack women in 'any' way. Ignoring the fact that women (or females in general) are not to blame for any of societies problems anyhow. For example, single parents (mostly women) are the 'victims' not the 'victorious' members of society. But they are the 'collateral' damage in a war that's being waged between our chromosomes. The target being "males" regardless of their age, or for that matter their state of development (male embryos will also be targeted).


Oh I dunno....I'd say they're to blame for about half. 

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XX and XY can't be divided equally in half. The division can only be XXX - Y. And the 'divisiveness' that's behind our present heading will ensure this happens.
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Reply #29 - Mar 28th, 2014 at 10:14am
 
GA wrote on Mar 28th, 2014 at 9:58am:
... wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 7:17pm:
GA wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 2:19pm:
Winston Smith wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 1:58pm:
Upon reflection, I realise the reason I'm so hard on you Grappler, is because I respect you and feel frustrated that you let yourself down.


Grappler and the other chauvinists are the best 'friends' feminism has ever had. And that's because mistake #1 is for a male to attack women in 'any' way. Ignoring the fact that women (or females in general) are not to blame for any of societies problems anyhow. For example, single parents (mostly women) are the 'victims' not the 'victorious' members of society. But they are the 'collateral' damage in a war that's being waged between our chromosomes. The target being "males" regardless of their age, or for that matter their state of development (male embryos will also be targeted).


Oh I dunno....I'd say they're to blame for about half. 

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XX and XY can't be divided equally in half. The division can only be XXX - Y. And the 'divisiveness' that's behind our present heading will ensure this happens.


Well if you want to put it like that, they're to blame for 3/4.  Personally I think thats' a bit harsh, but it leaves only one option - ban women.

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