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St George of the Garden Gold Member Offline http://tinyurl.com/n 3o8m2x Posts: 9809 Gender:	Re: NSW govt freezes CSG exploration Reply #15 - Mar 27^th, 2014 at 10:32am What have I done? Started two businesses and gave employment to a dozen people. Helped as much as I could when my bil left my sister and 3 young girls, am currently helping my 93yo mother. You?
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Re: NSW govt freezes CSG exploration
Reply #16 - Mar 27^th, 2014 at 12:26pm

skippy. wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 9:27am:

Good on you Bazza. Question has to be asked WHY? He's been in power three years, three years of CSG protests and nothing until now. Me thinks he's reading polls.

... of course, it may have been THIS - brought to our attention by Get Up

Santos coal seam gas project contaminates aquifer

March 8, 2014

A coal seam gas project operated by energy company Santos in north-western NSW has contaminated a nearby aquifer, with
uranium at levels 20 times higher than safe drinking water guidelines,
an official investigation has found.

It is the first confirmation of aquifer contamination associated with coal seam gas activity in Australia - a blow to an industry pushing state and federal governments for permission to expand.

Santos was fined $1500 by the NSW Environment Protection Authority
, which posted a media release on its website on February 18, without identifying the nature of the contamination.

http://www.smh.com.au/environment/santos-coal-seam-gas-project-contaminates-aqui...

... or THIS

Queensland LNG enforcement unit to investigate
'flammable, toxic' water'
in Chinchilla bore near CSG project

July 02, 2012

THE State Government has called in its LNG enforcement unit to investigate why a household water bore on a Chinchilla property has suddenly become flammable and apparently toxic.

Landowner Brian Monk blames the extensive coal seam gas operations in the region, including the controversial practice of fracking which has been used there.

But coal seam gas company QGC said science and logic would indicate that had nothing to do with it.

Mr Monk feared he had exposed his grandchildren to the apparently noxious gases flowing from the bore, which has become "radically worse" in recent months.

His fears are typical of the rural anxiety that exists in the Surat Basin as it turns from a mostly agricultural district to an industrialised energy hub with mines, gas wells, power and compressor stations, pipelines and transmission towers.

Mr Monk blamed the CSG wells within a few kilometres of his 2000ha property for the problems, and claimed his family had been sick and covered in rashes from the water that, until a few months ago, was used for bathing.

The bore is now almost dry and only "spits" water and gas every few minutes.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/farmers-fear-as-water-bore-burns/s...

A farmer has ZERO power to stop a CSG mining company from destroying his livelihood in this manner ...

...
yet for a SINGLE WIND TURBINE to be erected - the written permission from EVERYONE living within 2 km must be obtained

GO FIGURE !

( ... I know which I'd prefer on MY farm)

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Reply #17 - Mar 27^th, 2014 at 1:19pm

skippy. wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 9:51am:

bogarde73 wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 9:45am:

I suspect vast amounts of compensation from taxpayers funds might be incurred by unjustifiable cancellation of licenses.
Can the state afford that?

Can the state afford its food crops poisoned ? Or it's water? How about its beef and cattle? Or it's kids?

For god's sake, we've just started on the cleaning up of the financial mess left by the late departed federal Labor govt.
Do you now want us to embark on a massive financial burden for NSW to unravel what the Labor party did there?
Probably you do, for you have no concern whatever for the waste of public money.

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Re: NSW govt freezes CSG exploration
Reply #18 - Mar 27^th, 2014 at 1:26pm

bogarde73 wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 1:19pm:

skippy. wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 9:51am:

bogarde73 wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 9:45am:

I suspect vast amounts of compensation from taxpayers funds might be incurred by unjustifiable cancellation of licenses.
Can the state afford that?

Can the state afford its food crops poisoned ? Or it's water? How about its beef and cattle? Or it's kids?

For god's sake, we've just started on the cleaning up of the financial mess left by the late departed federal Labor govt.
Do you now want us to embark on a massive financial burden for NSW to unravel what the Labor party did there?
Probably you do, for you have no concern whatever for the waste of public money.

It's- Liberal government that has halted it, sweet cheeks, even they are brighter than you Re the damage of CSG, why am I not surprised? Roll Eyes

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Re: NSW govt freezes CSG exploration
Reply #19 - Mar 27^th, 2014 at 3:27pm

skippy. wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 1:26pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 1:19pm:

skippy. wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 9:51am:

bogarde73 wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 9:45am:

I suspect vast amounts of compensation from taxpayers funds might be incurred by unjustifiable cancellation of licenses.
Can the state afford that?

Can the state afford its food crops poisoned ? Or it's water? How about its beef and cattle? Or it's kids?

For god's sake, we've just started on the cleaning up of the financial mess left by the late departed federal Labor govt.
Do you now want us to embark on a massive financial burden for NSW to unravel what the Labor party did there?
Probably you do, for you have no concern whatever for the waste of public money.

It's- Liberal government that has halted it, sweet cheeks, even they are brighter than you Re the damage of CSG, why am I not surprised? Roll Eyes

but it was a labor government that granted all the licenses and gave the go ahead to the majority of leases.

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Reply #20 - Mar 28^th, 2014 at 2:36pm

http://www.theland.com.au/news/agriculture/general/news/santos-agl-lock-the-gate...

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UPDATED 12:15pm: SANTOS and AGL have formed an historic access policy guaranteeing farmers the right to say no to coal seam gas (CSG) mining activities.

The companies have agreed not to enforce arbitration over land access for CSG operations.

It will be the first such commitment in Australia.

The move has been met with glowing enthusiasm from the farm lobby.

Coal miners and other companies are concerned this agreement will raise community expectations and inhibit their plans to grow.

“This is a great start. They agree with what we have been saying all along," said Lock the Gate national campaign director Phil Laird said.

“Now is the time for the NSW government to formalise the landholders’ right of veto in legislation.

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Lobo Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7407 Sydney Gender:	Re: NSW govt freezes CSG exploration Reply #21 - Mar 28^th, 2014 at 3:03pm Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 7:51am: WOOHOO!!!! http://www.csgfreebyronshire.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/LockTheGate_268_by_1... Yeah, but would be good idea to keep alert. Keep it out of the public gaze for a while and then go twice as hard. Trust this mob, not.....
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Reply #22 - Mar 28^th, 2014 at 3:06pm

Setanta wrote on Mar 28^th, 2014 at 2:36pm:

http://www.theland.com.au/news/agriculture/general/news/santos-agl-lock-the-gate...

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UPDATED 12:15pm: SANTOS and AGL have formed an historic access policy guaranteeing farmers the right to say no to coal seam gas (CSG) mining activities.

The companies have agreed not to enforce arbitration over land access for CSG operations.

It will be the first such commitment in Australia.

The move has been met with glowing enthusiasm from the farm lobby.

Coal miners and other companies are concerned this agreement will raise community expectations and inhibit their plans to grow.

“This is a great start. They agree with what we have been saying all along," said Lock the Gate national campaign director Phil Laird said.

“Now is the time for the NSW government to formalise the landholders’ right of veto in legislation.

Does this agreement also stop them from buying the property next door and then drilling under yours??

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Re: NSW govt freezes CSG exploration
Reply #23 - Mar 28^th, 2014 at 3:07pm

Lobo wrote on Mar 28^th, 2014 at 3:03pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 7:51am:

WOOHOO!!!!

http://www.csgfreebyronshire.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/LockTheGate_268_by_1...

Yeah, but would be good idea to keep alert.
Keep it out of the public gaze for a while and then go twice as hard.

Trust this mob, not.....

Wink

Are you in NSW FROGGIE?

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Reply #24 - Mar 28^th, 2014 at 11:18am

Lobo wrote on Mar 28^th, 2014 at 3:06pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 28^th, 2014 at 2:36pm:

http://www.theland.com.au/news/agriculture/general/news/santos-agl-lock-the-gate...

Quote:

UPDATED 12:15pm: SANTOS and AGL have formed an historic access policy guaranteeing farmers the right to say no to coal seam gas (CSG) mining activities.

The companies have agreed not to enforce arbitration over land access for CSG operations.

It will be the first such commitment in Australia.

The move has been met with glowing enthusiasm from the farm lobby.

Coal miners and other companies are concerned this agreement will raise community expectations and inhibit their plans to grow.

“This is a great start. They agree with what we have been saying all along," said Lock the Gate national campaign director Phil Laird said.

“Now is the time for the NSW government to formalise the landholders’ right of veto in legislation.

Does this agreement also stop them from buying the property next door and then drilling under yours??

Wink

That's exactly what I thought when my wife showed me. They'll just drill under your property from up the road. It's a start and it keeps them off properties that the owners don't want them on.

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Reply #25 - Mar 28^th, 2014 at 12:31pm

woody2014 wrote on Mar 28^th, 2014 at 3:07pm:

Lobo wrote on Mar 28^th, 2014 at 3:03pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 7:51am:

WOOHOO!!!!

http://www.csgfreebyronshire.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/LockTheGate_268_by_1...

Yeah, but would be good idea to keep alert.
Keep it out of the public gaze for a while and then go twice as hard.

Trust this mob, not.....

Wink

Are you in NSW FROGGIE?

Yep!
Moved back up here after Nasho...

Edit: Long story....

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Reply #26 - Mar 28^th, 2014 at 12:36pm

Setanta wrote on Mar 28^th, 2014 at 11:18am:

Lobo wrote on Mar 28^th, 2014 at 3:06pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 28^th, 2014 at 2:36pm:

http://www.theland.com.au/news/agriculture/general/news/santos-agl-lock-the-gate...

Quote:

UPDATED 12:15pm: SANTOS and AGL have formed an historic access policy guaranteeing farmers the right to say no to coal seam gas (CSG) mining activities.

The companies have agreed not to enforce arbitration over land access for CSG operations.

It will be the first such commitment in Australia.

The move has been met with glowing enthusiasm from the farm lobby.

Coal miners and other companies are concerned this agreement will raise community expectations and inhibit their plans to grow.

“This is a great start. They agree with what we have been saying all along," said Lock the Gate national campaign director Phil Laird said.

“Now is the time for the NSW government to formalise the landholders’ right of veto in legislation.

Does this agreement also stop them from buying the property next door and then drilling under yours??

Wink

That's exactly what I thought when my wife showed me. They'll just drill under your property from up the road. It's a start and it keeps them off properties that the owners don't want them on.

I've read that they can bore horizontally from 2 to 2+ahalf km from the well head.
If that's what they tell us, I'm more inclined to believe 5+ km.

Wink

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Re: NSW govt freezes CSG exploration
Reply #27 - Mar 28^th, 2014 at 3:42pm

Lobo wrote on Mar 28^th, 2014 at 12:36pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 28^th, 2014 at 11:18am:

Lobo wrote on Mar 28^th, 2014 at 3:06pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 28^th, 2014 at 2:36pm:

http://www.theland.com.au/news/agriculture/general/news/santos-agl-lock-the-gate...

Quote:

UPDATED 12:15pm: SANTOS and AGL have formed an historic access policy guaranteeing farmers the right to say no to coal seam gas (CSG) mining activities.

The companies have agreed not to enforce arbitration over land access for CSG operations.

It will be the first such commitment in Australia.

The move has been met with glowing enthusiasm from the farm lobby.

Coal miners and other companies are concerned this agreement will raise community expectations and inhibit their plans to grow.

“This is a great start. They agree with what we have been saying all along," said Lock the Gate national campaign director Phil Laird said.

“Now is the time for the NSW government to formalise the landholders’ right of veto in legislation.

Does this agreement also stop them from buying the property next door and then drilling under yours??

Wink

That's exactly what I thought when my wife showed me. They'll just drill under your property from up the road. It's a start and it keeps them off properties that the owners don't want them on.

I've read that they can bore horizontally from 2 to 2+ahalf km from the well head.
If that's what they tell us, I'm more inclined to believe 5+ km.

Wink

There's also the TPP that could come into play.

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Grappler Deep State Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 85311 Always was always will be HOME Gender:	Re: NSW govt freezes CSG exploration Reply #28 - Mar 29^th, 2014 at 12:35am reads carefully... "Coal seam gas (CSG) exploration applications will be frozen for six months across NSW while the state government reviews the controversial process."* What about the rest then? Just business as usual?
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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: NSW govt freezes CSG exploration Reply #29 - Mar 29^th, 2014 at 5:09am The rest of them can continue to pollute the aquifers with cancer causing pollutants like uranium.
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