ian wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 1:21pm:



What's the offence, and penalty?

Rhet-Oracle wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 1:45pm:



That's not an Act.

White flag accepted: you can not provide a reference to the piece of legislation which says that it is illegal for an asylum seeker to transgress borders.

Case closed.

Rhet-Oracle wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 1:55pm:




It is you who needs to support your "argument".

I'm asking you to provide a reference to the piece of legislation which says that it is illegal for an asylum seeker to transgress borders.

You have failed on several occaisions.

White flag accepted, for all to see.

It was a pleasure doing business with you.

Cheers.

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 11:18am:


It's also not illegal to walk into a bank to ask the Teller for some money because you left your wallet at home.

St George of the Garden wrote on Mar 28^th, 2014 at 8:30am:


Is an untruncated 12-bore shotgun legal then? 

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 2:06pm:


It really is a pathetic attempt at superiority when you have to resort to inferring that you have triumphed in some way. For goodness sake are you so juvenile that the only way you can feel good about yourself is to claim victory by accepting a surrender which has not been offered?

It will be a cold day in hell before I present a weak minded clown on an Internet forum who is lacking in moral fibre with a white flag.

Cheers

re Oracle:

In some ways, you are half right.  Because their act of entering Australia without a valid visa is technically an illegal action. 

However, due to the fact that the purpose of them entering Australia is to seek asylum.  Then, according to the UN refugee's convention, that then they should not be treated as if they are illegal.   And furthermore, Australian law also permits unauthorised entry into Australia for the purposes of seeking asylum.  Therefore, under current Australia law - their actions are not considered as illegal. 

Now, if they enter Australia, and went to mix in the population without a valid visa, and does not apply for asylum.  Then, their actions are considered as illegal. 

So this is like an exemption. 

And it is just like say.... my father took me to hospital with abdominal pain.  He illegally parked at a no standing area / or permit zone, and rushed me into the ED.  His act of parking is technically illegal, however, his action would not be considered illegal due to exceptional circumstances, and therefore he would not be fined. 

Hope this clear things up for you.