Grendel wrote on Mar 28
th, 2014 at 11:28am:
Lying and creating strawmen now eh bam... how disappointing you've become in your desperation.
Quote:You show me one example - just one will do - where Speaker Burke named a member for addressing her as "Madam Speaker".
I never said she did now did I...
Burke NEVER threw anyone out of Parliament for daring to address her so far as I know. Bishop did.
Do stop... address what I said don't create strawmen.
If Burke actually did this, I'll stand corrected if you cite the Hansard with date and time.
Been over it shot your strawman to pieces... you cant debate someone if you don't address what they actually say
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And we can check bias quantitatively. Check the points of order in QT regarding relevance, and see how often these have been upheld and how many have been declined. There may be other statistics as well, such as how often the Speaker asks the Minister for clarification before making a ruling.
Look I watched parliament nearly every day... Burke was plainly biased and never made the ALP answer questions... she may have occasionally directed them to but they never did.... not when I was watching.
This is another example where you cannot back up your silly argument with any evidence.
Not my fault you are either biased, dishonest or never watched parliament.
Quote: Quote:Or even one example where Speaker Burke asked someone to leave the chamber for addressing her as "Madam Speaker".
Ditto above and since when did she asked to be addressed as such?
The exact form of address is not important. When did Burke throw anyone out for addressing her using her preferred title?
Not my point.... never made it did I... you keep wanting to argue with a strawman.
Quote: Quote:Then your view that Burke was at least as biased as Bishop would have some weight.
Oh it does and so far she is worse than Bishop her record clearly shows her tossing coalition members out willy nilly and allowing the government to push propaganda ridicule and not answer questions.
And Bishop forces the Government to answer every question and disallows propaganda?
You crap on endlessly about her record but you refuse to provide any proof to back this up. You also persisit in this distraction tactic to deflect scrutiny from Bishop, who is the worst Speaker I have ever seen. And that includes the Victorian Coalition Speaker who shut down Parliament for two weeks last November rather than face a motion of no confidence.
She may well get worse or not Improve... but it'll take a very bad performance to outdo the bias of burke.
Quote:Now if that is happening when the boot is on the other foot it is hardly fair to cry foul now is it.
Bishop named and ejected an Opposition member for addressing her.
A point you refuse to discuss.
Don't need to, I don't judge a speaker on one action alone. BTW Dreyfus probably deserved it he should have been booted many times by Burke and wasn't and he has a penchant for not answering questions when they were in government.
Quote:For the ALP, the Greens YOU or biased rusted-on supporters.
I'm not rusted on to any party, and will call issues as I see them. There's not a political party that I haven't criticised at some point.
really?
just make stupid childish comments about the PM instead eh?
When will you own up to being a rusted-on one-eyed Coalition supporter? I
'm not, so why should I. If you people stop lying and carrying on like demented fools with your LW prog bias I won't have to correct you. I have proved often enough I am not RW, but I refuse to lie and denigrate someone due to political bias.
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