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Re: Labor's petulance on display
Reply #75 - Mar 27^th, 2014 at 9:42pm

Kat wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 5:20pm:

mozzaok wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 4:35pm:

I have seen Bronwyn Bishop as speaker a few times, and I have to admit I was surprised at how blatantly she displayed her bias.
She does not even pretend to be fair or even handed, which does seem to give legitimacy to Labor putting forward the motion they did, and in the words they chose to do so.
I know people disparage Slipper for his previous transgressions, but you could see he really did try to fulfill the role of speaker as fairly, and honorably as he could, and I think it must be a long time since we have had such a cavalier disdain for the honour needed in the role of speaker, as displayed by Bishop.

Good post. Agreed.

Do you both agree that Anna Burke was blatantly biased too?
If not... you're both biased and have no credibility

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St George of the Garden Gold Member Offline http://tinyurl.com/n 3o8m2x Posts: 9809 Gender:	Re: Labor's petulance on display Reply #76 - Mar 27^th, 2014 at 9:44pm Not a single Speaker has been as biased as Broomhilda. 99:0
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Re: Labor's petulance on display
Reply #77 - Mar 27^th, 2014 at 9:49pm

Bam wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 6:07pm:

Grendel wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 5:00pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 4:10pm:

Grendel wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 3:20pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 2:43pm:

Normally the speaker is biased, we know this. But for one side to actually come out and say they are the MOST biased? hmmm, tells me that she must be pretty biased. Duchess Bishop must quit.

No it tells you how biased and childish this bunch of ALP members are.
Dreyfus has deserved the boot many times and not got it under a Labor speakership.
Anna Burke was very biased and allowed the ALP to do whatever they pleased and continually fail to answer questions.
She has no credibility or right to criticise anyone.

Care to show us examples, oh dear conservative leftie?
Or are you doing your usual finger at lips and shake routine?

Perhaps you missed parliament on tv under Burke.
So why are you here debating stuff you are ignorant of.
I saw it I know how biased she was even Jenkins was biased but you didn't see the Coalition arc up the way these prats do.

That's not true.

yes it is...

In the last parliament, the Coalition moved to suspend standing orders in almost every sitting week of the last parliament, far more than is usual. You tell me that every occasion was justified.

I already made my point you seem to be avoiding the main one on purpose.

In the last Parliament, The Coalition denied pairs for stupid reasons - the first time any Federal Opposition did that since before the last time that the United Australia Party was in office. You tell me that every denial of a pair was justified.

During this parliament, this crap Speaker has denied points of order before they have even been made and indulged in numerous other examples of bias. Calling "Madam Speaker" is grounds for ejection! Really! You tell me that every ejection from Parliament was justified and every denial of points of order was justified.

Did I say she was a great Speaker? No... Did I say she was a good speaker? No. your point would be then????? So far, Anna Burke was the most blatantly biased Speaker I've ever seen... Bishop has a way to go to match her yet.

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St George of the Garden Gold Member Offline http://tinyurl.com/n 3o8m2x Posts: 9809 Gender:	Re: Labor's petulance on display Reply #78 - Mar 27^th, 2014 at 9:51pm 99:0 I don’t think a single POO has been allowed by the senile old bat. Doesn’t recognise an Oppn member until the minister has finished an answer—not always but this crap happens far too often.
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Labor's petulance on display Reply #79 - Mar 27^th, 2014 at 9:52pm john_g wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 8:08pm: Can anyone tell me how Burke was any better/less biased? She wasn't and she allowed every question to go unanswered....
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Re: Labor's petulance on display
Reply #80 - Mar 27^th, 2014 at 9:53pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 8:24pm:

Lobo wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 8:20pm:

CHRISTIAN KERR THE AUSTRALIAN SEPTEMBER 16, 2013

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Mr Abbott, who once described himself as the "ideological love-child of John Howard and Bronwyn Bishop", praised her experience and profile in putting her name forward yesterday.

"I want to bring some dignity back to the parliament and that means a Speaker who can control the parliament and who can act without fear nor favour," he said.

"And I want someone who is as tough on the government as on the opposition, because I think the people expect a parliament which is a genuine debating chamber and not just a chamber where the government bludgeons the opposition."

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/election-2013/bronwyn-bishop-to-be-speaker-with-tony-abbotts-support/story-fn9qr68y-1226719672169

Another example of an Abbott lie.......

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Yeas....the score so far.......99/0.

'HILARIOUS.'

What was Burke's score Aussie? hmmmm Roll Eyes

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Re: Labor's petulance on display
Reply #81 - Mar 27^th, 2014 at 9:54pm

Grendel wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 9:42pm:

Kat wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 5:20pm:

mozzaok wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 4:35pm:

I have seen Bronwyn Bishop as speaker a few times, and I have to admit I was surprised at how blatantly she displayed her bias.
She does not even pretend to be fair or even handed, which does seem to give legitimacy to Labor putting forward the motion they did, and in the words they chose to do so.
I know people disparage Slipper for his previous transgressions, but you could see he really did try to fulfill the role of speaker as fairly, and honorably as he could, and I think it must be a long time since we have had such a cavalier disdain for the honour needed in the role of speaker, as displayed by Bishop.

Good post. Agreed.

Do you both agree that Anna Burke was blatantly biased too?
If not... you're both biased and have no credibility

Always thought Burke was biased, and am on record on this forum stating as much.

But by no stretch was she ever as bad, or as consistently bad, as this cow is.

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Re: Labor's petulance on display
Reply #82 - Mar 27^th, 2014 at 9:54pm

Bam wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 8:27pm:

Grendel wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 6:51pm:

You gonna table every time Anna Burke tossed out a Coalition member and allowed questions to go unanswered? I mean to say we have to be fair about this don't we?

Burke is not the current Speaker. Bishop is.

Burke's conduct has been analysed already in prior discussions. Bishop's conduct is being questioned now.

Why are you trying to deflect and derail the discussion?

I'm not the one ignoring the most recent comparable... you are and now you want to rule it out Grin

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St George of the Garden Gold Member Offline http://tinyurl.com/n 3o8m2x Posts: 9809 Gender:	Re: Labor's petulance on display Reply #83 - Mar 27^th, 2014 at 9:54pm Grendel wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 9:52pm: john_g wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 8:08pm: Can anyone tell me how Burke was any better/less biased? She wasn't and she allowed every question to go unanswered.... Burke, unlike Broomhilda, did tell Ministers to address the question.
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Re: Labor's petulance on display
Reply #84 - Mar 27^th, 2014 at 9:56pm

Bread and Butter wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 9:22pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 8:02pm:

Bread and Butter wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 7:36pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 7:19pm:

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..and unsavoury history or rorting travel expenses.

Evidence please, and when you provide same, please distinguish Slipper's 'rorts' from............oh.............let's take......say...........Abbott's.

So another of the bully-boy tactics by demanding proof of facts that are already in the public domain and well-known? He was required to repay significant amounts by the Department of Finance on multiple occasions.

Now if you wish to debate properly it would be helpful to stipulate to facts - however inconvenient - that are demonstrably true rather than employ the bully boy tactics of demanding 'proof' at every stage. It is beneath those debaters of substance.

Soooo.....no evidence especially how you distinguish what Slipper repaid from what Abbott, Joyce, etc etc etc repaid.

Funny how you equate me asking for some evidence to support your allegations with 'bullying.' Even funnier that you would know anything about 'debaters of substance.' Do you know any in your World? Invite them here if so. Gawd knows the right Wing of the Inn is in dire need of any assistance you can muster for them.

Wink

I see you are the person who will engage in infinite regression to the world of pedantry and argument about the number of angels that fit on the head of a pin. Pretend all you like that Slipper is a man of unimpeachable character while the rest of us look on and laugh.

Come back when you want to debate something of substance and away from your ivory tower of arrogance.

Bread and Butter... meet Aussie... Roll Eyes

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Re: Labor's petulance on display
Reply #85 - Mar 27^th, 2014 at 10:00pm

Grendel wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 9:49pm:

Bam wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 6:07pm:

Grendel wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 5:00pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 4:10pm:

Grendel wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 3:20pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 2:43pm:

Normally the speaker is biased, we know this. But for one side to actually come out and say they are the MOST biased? hmmm, tells me that she must be pretty biased. Duchess Bishop must quit.

No it tells you how biased and childish this bunch of ALP members are.
Dreyfus has deserved the boot many times and not got it under a Labor speakership.
Anna Burke was very biased and allowed the ALP to do whatever they pleased and continually fail to answer questions.
She has no credibility or right to criticise anyone.

Care to show us examples, oh dear conservative leftie?
Or are you doing your usual finger at lips and shake routine?

Perhaps you missed parliament on tv under Burke.
So why are you here debating stuff you are ignorant of.
I saw it I know how biased she was even Jenkins was biased but you didn't see the Coalition arc up the way these prats do.

That's not true.

yes it is...

In the last parliament, the Coalition moved to suspend standing orders in almost every sitting week of the last parliament, far more than is usual. You tell me that every occasion was justified.

I already made my point you seem to be avoiding the main one on purpose.

In the last Parliament, The Coalition denied pairs for stupid reasons - the first time any Federal Opposition did that since before the last time that the United Australia Party was in office. You tell me that every denial of a pair was justified.

During this parliament, this crap Speaker has denied points of order before they have even been made and indulged in numerous other examples of bias. Calling "Madam Speaker" is grounds for ejection! Really! You tell me that every ejection from Parliament was justified and every denial of points of order was justified.

Did I say she was a great Speaker? No... Did I say she was a good speaker? No. your point would be then????? So far, Anna Burke was the most blatantly biased Speaker I've ever seen... Bishop has a way to go to match her yet.

Rudd, Gillard, Rudd.....they are gone Grendel as is Burke. If it gets you over a speed bump......I'll say out loud....."I thought Burke was pathetic as a Speaker."

Good. Fast forward to the present. I reckon Big Jobs is corrupt as a Speaker. She has taken "pathetic, incompetence, partisanship, bias and vengeance" to a completely new corrupt level. Do you agree, Elde Fruit?

Yes or no. Choose your one word response, please.

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Re: Labor's petulance on display
Reply #86 - Mar 27^th, 2014 at 10:06pm

St George of the Garden wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 9:54pm:

Grendel wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 9:52pm:

john_g wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 8:08pm:

Can anyone tell me how Burke was any better/less biased?

She wasn't and she allowed every question to go unanswered....

Burke, unlike Broomhilda, did tell Ministers to address the question.

yet they ignored her and the questions remained unanswered. Roll Eyes

Seen it way too many times.

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Re: Labor's petulance on display
Reply #87 - Mar 27^th, 2014 at 10:10pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 10:00pm:

Grendel wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 9:49pm:

Bam wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 6:07pm:

Grendel wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 5:00pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 4:10pm:

Grendel wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 3:20pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 2:43pm:

Normally the speaker is biased, we know this. But for one side to actually come out and say they are the MOST biased? hmmm, tells me that she must be pretty biased. Duchess Bishop must quit.

No it tells you how biased and childish this bunch of ALP members are.
Dreyfus has deserved the boot many times and not got it under a Labor speakership.
Anna Burke was very biased and allowed the ALP to do whatever they pleased and continually fail to answer questions.
She has no credibility or right to criticise anyone.

Care to show us examples, oh dear conservative leftie?
Or are you doing your usual finger at lips and shake routine?

Perhaps you missed parliament on tv under Burke.
So why are you here debating stuff you are ignorant of.
I saw it I know how biased she was even Jenkins was biased but you didn't see the Coalition arc up the way these prats do.

That's not true.

yes it is...

In the last parliament, the Coalition moved to suspend standing orders in almost every sitting week of the last parliament, far more than is usual. You tell me that every occasion was justified.

I already made my point you seem to be avoiding the main one on purpose.

In the last Parliament, The Coalition denied pairs for stupid reasons - the first time any Federal Opposition did that since before the last time that the United Australia Party was in office. You tell me that every denial of a pair was justified.

During this parliament, this crap Speaker has denied points of order before they have even been made and indulged in numerous other examples of bias. Calling "Madam Speaker" is grounds for ejection! Really! You tell me that every ejection from Parliament was justified and every denial of points of order was justified.

Did I say she was a great Speaker? No... Did I say she was a good speaker? No. your point would be then????? So far, Anna Burke was the most blatantly biased Speaker I've ever seen... Bishop has a way to go to match her yet.

Rudd, Gillard, Rudd.....they are gone Grendel as is Burke. If it gets you over a speed bump......I'll say out loud....."I thought Burke was pathetic as a Speaker."

Good. Fast forward to the present. I reckon Big Jobs is corrupt as a Speaker. She has taken "pathetic, incompetence, partisanship, bias and vengeance" to a completely new corrupt level. Do you agree, Elde Fruit?

Yes or no. Choose your one word response, please.

You would like 1 word... easy for you to understand and misinterpret, yet not at all satisfactory as an answer.
I already made several comments about Bishop I suggest instead of jumping in like a mindless pedant you actually read stuff. Roll Eyes

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St George of the Garden Gold Member Offline http://tinyurl.com/n 3o8m2x Posts: 9809 Gender:	Re: Labor's petulance on display Reply #88 - Mar 27^th, 2014 at 10:10pm Only so much a Speaker can do. Yet Burke did it and Broomhilda doesn’t.
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Reply #89 - Mar 27^th, 2014 at 10:14pm

Burke did nothing much except toss out the opposition.
Especially Christopher Pyne.
Quote:

Mr Pyne said it was the reality for oppositions that "you do get thrown out of Parliament more often than members of the Government".

"I hold the record for being ejected from this place by speakers in the Parliament," Mr Pyne told the House.

"I never complained. I never complained. I didn't stand up like a great big sook like the Manager of Opposition Business did today."

I think Tony Burke is doing a poor job too. He and labor are setting new records for hubris.

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