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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: Newman gets $70k pay rise Reply #15 - Mar 27^th, 2014 at 4:26pm Lobo wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 3:20pm: Quote: An independent remuneration tribunal INDEPENDENT???? BULL!!!!! just appointed by govt and paid by the taxpayer. its about as independent as that.,
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Re: Newman gets $70k pay rise
Reply #16 - Mar 27^th, 2014 at 4:27pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 4:18pm:

Life_goes_on wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 4:09pm:

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The fundamental difference is that CEOs do not have a zillion Departments to do the work for him and a gazillion Department Heads and Deputy Heads to advise them and an Office full of clevah dicks in the Premier's Dept to hold his hand at all times.

That hasn't been my experience. A large company will have hundreds and hundreds, in some cases, thousands, working at its head office - same deal - gazillion dept heads and deputy heads - spending the bulk of their time in meetings and to be there to advise the CEO.

Might be the sheltered life I've lead, but I can't think of one CEO, let alone lots, who have the management resources a State Premier has at his disposal.

Huh

Some of the wankers on your ABC are paid more tax payers dollars for doing f'all
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john_g Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1549 Gender:	Re: Newman gets $70k pay rise Reply #17 - Mar 27^th, 2014 at 5:07pm I don't see why any politician should be earning as much as they do. Teachers and nurses get around $60,000 . All are payed by the taxpayer, why should teachers and nurses get far less?
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Reply #18 - Mar 27^th, 2014 at 7:40pm

Life_goes_on wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 4:03pm:

I don't begrudge pollies pay rises. They have to put any career they had on hold - often being unable to return to that career after leaving politics.

In a large corporation, you'll often find middle managers on salaries of around $200k when they're doing little more than managing a dozen or two staff and not having to put in more than 40-45hrs a week. A pollie has way more on their plate than that.

Pay peanuts, get monkeys.

Damn - you mean all those lawyers can't get to go back to being lawyers with their fat retirement package already well in hand?

What a load of cods!!

People line up to employ these turkeys in nice sinecures for life, mostly for doing nothing.

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Reply #19 - Mar 27^th, 2014 at 7:41pm

cods wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 4:26pm:

Lobo wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 3:20pm:

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An independent remuneration tribunal

INDEPENDENT????

BULL!!!!!

Cheesy

just appointed by govt and paid by the taxpayer.

its about as independent as that.,

Correct me if I'm wrong - but don't these 'independent tribunals' (tribulations?) also set their own salaries in line with those of politicians etc - and does this not create a serious conflict of interest?

Whatever % they give the pollies they also get themselves.....

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Reply #20 - Mar 27^th, 2014 at 7:54pm

Life_goes_on wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 4:03pm:

I don't begrudge pollies pay rises. They have to put any career they had on hold - often being unable to return to that career after leaving politics.

In a large corporation, you'll often find middle managers on salaries of around $200k when they're doing little more than managing a dozen or two staff and not having to put in more than 40-45hrs a week. A pollie has way more on their plate than that.

Pay peanuts, get monkeys.

Yes, but a pollies real earnings aren't his salary, that's just the cherry on top. The real lucrative part of the job is the perks, the kickbacks, the inside knowledge, the favours and the promises of sweet, high-paying jobs managing 2 dozen staff for 40 hours a week after leaving office, and of the course the holy grail - the parliamentary pension for life - that are the real remuneration. They'd still be wealthy if the position of premier was unpaid.

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Lobo Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7407 Sydney Gender:	Re: Newman gets $70k pay rise Reply #21 - Mar 27^th, 2014 at 8:05pm cods wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 3:59pm: THEY WILL ALL BE GETTING A PAY RISE.... the Premier like the PM gets the biggest one thats all.. what does the opposition leader get? If you had clicked on the link you would know.....
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Re: Newman gets $70k pay rise
Reply #22 - Mar 27^th, 2014 at 8:42pm

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the parliamentary pension for life

I believe that was abolished during the Howard era. These days, new MPs just get money paid into a super scheme. The generous parliamentary pension is gone.

I heard a discussion on radio the other day, that there's now the possibility of an ex-MP or even a PM, falling on hard times before they're eligible to collect their super and that perhaps a fund is needed to deal with that eventuality.

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Re: Newman gets $70k pay rise
Reply #23 - Mar 28^th, 2014 at 10:13am

Life_goes_on wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 8:42pm:

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the parliamentary pension for life

I believe that was abolished during the Howard era. These days, new MPs just get money paid into a super scheme. The generous parliamentary pension is gone.

I heard a discussion on radio the other day, that there's now the possibility of an ex-MP or even a PM, falling on hard times before they're eligible to collect their super and that perhaps a fund is needed to deal with that eventuality.

The judge said Williamson was in a position of power when he defrauded the union of nearly $1 million.

Williamson is facing a possible 20 years in jail after pleading guilty to four charges including fraud and recruiting others to hinder a police investigation.

Prosecutors say Williamson, who was already on a salary of about $500,000, was motivated by greed.

The court has been told the former Australian Labor Party president submitted false invoices to the union from a company in his wife's name.

Williamson's lawyers say he has apologised and taken full responsibility for his actions, noting he has also suffered depression since his behaviour was exposed.

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Re: Newman gets $70k pay rise
Reply #24 - Mar 28^th, 2014 at 10:19am

woody2014 wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 4:27pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 4:18pm:

Life_goes_on wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 4:09pm:

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The fundamental difference is that CEOs do not have a zillion Departments to do the work for him and a gazillion Department Heads and Deputy Heads to advise them and an Office full of clevah dicks in the Premier's Dept to hold his hand at all times.

That hasn't been my experience. A large company will have hundreds and hundreds, in some cases, thousands, working at its head office - same deal - gazillion dept heads and deputy heads - spending the bulk of their time in meetings and to be there to advise the CEO.

Might be the sheltered life I've lead, but I can't think of one CEO, let alone lots, who have the management resources a State Premier has at his disposal.

Huh

Some of the wankers on your ABC are paid more tax payers dollars for doing f'all
Grin

except that those wankers on the ABC actually work and they don't get any perks when they leave the ABC

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Reply #25 - Mar 28^th, 2014 at 10:23am

I read somewhere that Newmans new salary is not that far behind Barrack Obama's ... I tried to find it again but couldn't ... seriously?

Once again the libs show how out of touch they are with their electorate .... their salaries should be mandated to go up in line with every other public service job, after all , he;s just another public servant but he does less work ... if he wants a 2.2% increase for public servants, why does he get a 42% increase ?

disgraceful.

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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 106527 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Newman gets $70k pay rise Reply #26 - Mar 28^th, 2014 at 10:28am Politicians with their snouts in the trough. Most people don't even get $70,000 yet alone a pay rise of that much. They should get the minimum wage of $16.30 per hour to see how their people have to live.
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Sir lastnail Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 30096 Gender:	Re: Newman gets $70k pay rise Reply #27 - Mar 28^th, 2014 at 10:31am cods wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 3:59pm: THEY WILL ALL BE GETTING A PAY RISE.... the Premier like the PM gets the biggest one thats all.. what does the opposition leader get? a 70K pay rise for selling off the remaining publicly owned assets. What a genius !!
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75087 Gender:	Re: Newman gets $70k pay rise Reply #28 - Mar 28^th, 2014 at 10:35am to make it worse, the pay rise will get backdated to july last year ..... pathetic.
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