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Grappler Deep State Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 85477 Always was always will be HOME Gender:	Re: The state of Queensland. Reply #540 - Feb 6^th, 2015 at 8:56pm Close - might see a few re-counts there.....
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Re: The state of Queensland.
Reply #541 - Feb 6^th, 2015 at 8:58pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 5^th, 2015 at 9:47pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Feb 5^th, 2015 at 8:34pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 5^th, 2015 at 6:34pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Feb 5^th, 2015 at 8:27am:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 5^th, 2015 at 6:48am:

Emma wrote on Feb 4^th, 2015 at 11:29pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 4^th, 2015 at 11:23pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Feb 4^th, 2015 at 11:21pm:

Indeed! During the twelve year drought we suffered here... many governments looked for alternative ways of getting water to the people...

So - when the next twelve year drought cycle comes along.....

Are you still going to criticise desalination and other plants?

During the drought we looked into local history - a friend or two just up the road are descendants of the original settlers here - their family history books show a drought cycle...

Get used to it - this is a country of rain or drought...... and stop criticising governments for trying to ensure water supply to your grand-children...

Good propaganda, Comrade. Should we "progressives" also stop criticising businesses for supplying jobs? I think not - socialism or death! This is progress.

Err umm PMT2 ? Go take a Bex and lie down. You are obviously overtired.

I reckon PMT 2 could down a bottle of johnny walker red, 10 rohypnols, be water-boarded, sleep deprived for 7 days, have a general anaesthetic and a gun shot wound to the head and he would still whoop your sorry ass in a debate Cheesy

Whup my ass? Why he's just flyin' my shadow... and waiting for the axe to fall.... that's the other shadow he sees above him..

He offers not one solid thing, just his endless finger-pointing rants about 'progress' and comrades who don't exist. How is that 'debate'? You can build no foundation for debate on unproven assumptions and arbitrary name-calling.... after that any house of words built upon that shifting sand will collapse instantly of its own accord.

Does he bribe the judges or something?

Good propaganda, Comrade. The way forward is to endlessly criticise businesses for the woes of the world, demand they pay more tax, then add nothing to how productivity or real job creation can be achieved, all the while living off government hand outs. This is progress.

You have proved the poverty of your debating skills and your need to endlessly repeat nonsense by not even beginning to address any issue I brought up.

You's not only flying in my shadow - you's the smoking pile on the ground....

Good propaganda, Comrade. Dodge, weave, obfuscate, deny.

You're the expert - I bow to your insipid wisdom...

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Re: The state of Queensland.
Reply #542 - Feb 6^th, 2015 at 10:40pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 6^th, 2015 at 7:27pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 5^th, 2015 at 6:29pm:

Bam wrote on Feb 5^th, 2015 at 5:40pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 5^th, 2015 at 5:23pm:

Update:

Lockyer: Pauline now 183 votes behind. Makes no real difference to the State outcome as it is held by the LNP. If they lose it, it does relax the numbers at the top.

Maryborough: ALP now 747 ahead. LNP have closed the gap a tad but still likely ALP win.

Mt. Ommaney: ALP 201 behind. Sneaking up, but still a likely LNP hold.

Whitsunday: ALP now 305 behind. Looks more like an LNP hold.

ABC is currently including Ferny Grove as another seat in doubt, ALP 348 votes ahead.

Poll Bludger has similar figures, but does not include Lockyer (probably because it's not an ALP vs LNP contest so makes no difference to the outcome). Poll Bludger also has Mansfield.

Ferny Grove ALP 348 ahead
Whitsunday ALP 416 behind
Mount Ommaney ALP 329 behind
Mansfield ALP 407 behind

I'd put Ferny Grove into the irrelevant basket. It is a possible nuisance but ....... ("Aussie"...do not post legal commentary on stuff you know zero about!)

Whitsunday is already an LNP seat....so.....no drama there. Bonus if the ALP win.

Mount Ommaney............same as Whitsunday.

Mansfield..............same as Whitsunday.

If the ALP win Maryborough (on track to do so,) then with Wellington (Nicklin) they have the magic number of 45.

Would be wise to keep the two KAP bods happy....just in case.

Maryborough is an ALP win, and that with Wellington, takes Labor to the required 45 to govern (with the Independant Wellington's support.)

As at 3.53pm today, with 91.47% counted, the ALP is 746 ahead in Maryborough.

Whitsunday. Held by the LNP. As at 3.03pm today, with 86.58% counted, LNP ahead by 313. They should hold.

Lockyer: Held by the LNP. As at 4.13pm today, with 91.11% counted, Pauline trails by 183 votes. She is just hanging on. Hard to win from there.

Mt Ommaney: Held by the LNP. As at 4.13pm today with 92.52% counted, LNP ahead by 187. They should hold.

Ferny Grove. Well it is already in the bag for the ALP, but there is still that doubt about what will happen given the disqualification of the PUP candidate.

Sounds promising Aussie.

I really cannot see how a bi-election could be justified in Ferny Grove.
It would be a bad choice, and would NOT be looked on kindly by the constituents.
As I understand it, the PUP preferences would have no impact on the outcome and as such no justification for the expense and angst such a move would create could be lawfully shown.

I think any attempt to do so would be seen in the worst possible light by the people of Queensland.

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Reply #543 - Feb 7^th, 2015 at 2:09pm

Ousted Queensland Premier Campbell Newman is being asked to consider standing for Liberal preselection in a federal Victorian seat.

The former secretary of the Wodonga Liberal Party branch, Lloyd Deane, wrote to Mr Newman this week asking him to reverse his decision to quit politics and stand for preselection in the seat of Indi, in northern Victoria.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-02-07/campbell-newman-sounded-out-about-running-...

Interesting. I wonder why they don't want Mirabella back. Secondly, why would Victoria want a QLD castoff?

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38866 Gender:	Re: The state of Queensland. Reply #544 - Feb 7^th, 2015 at 2:15pm It would be weird if he even considered it. He is a Queenslander, a failure...and he ought know he would have zero attraction to the local Libs in Indi.
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38866 Gender:	Re: The state of Queensland. Reply #545 - Feb 7^th, 2015 at 2:48pm Sooooo, the Qld LNP have selected their 'new' Leadership Team......with a return to the tired old past. The Borg and JP. Has beens. Link. I'm surprised. It is a poisoned chalice at the moment, and I thought they go for a sacrificial lamb like Fiona Simpson, Tim Mander or Scott Emerson.
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38866 Gender:	Re: The state of Queensland. Reply #546 - Feb 7^th, 2015 at 3:46pm More on the Ferny Grove issue. This link discusses an old precedent which indicates there would be no by-election, and the seat will go to Labor. Link.
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Re: The state of Queensland.
Reply #547 - Feb 7^th, 2015 at 4:26pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 7^th, 2015 at 3:46pm:

More on the Ferny Grove issue. This link discusses an old precedent which indicates there would be no by-election, and the seat will go to Labor.

Link.

An interesting article. It reinforces my view that the ineligible candidate is simply excluded from the count.

It does complicate things a little though; other legal precedent I have seen suggests that the first preferences are annulled, but the remaining preferences (if any) are still valid and should be distributed as normal.

In any event, a by-election in Ferny Grove looks unlikely.

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Re: The state of Queensland.
Reply #548 - Feb 7^th, 2015 at 5:01pm

Bam wrote on Feb 7^th, 2015 at 4:26pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 7^th, 2015 at 3:46pm:

More on the Ferny Grove issue. This link discusses an old precedent which indicates there would be no by-election, and the seat will go to Labor.

Link.

An interesting article. It reinforces my view that the ineligible candidate is simply excluded from the count.

It does complicate things a little though; other legal precedent I have seen suggests that the first preferences are annulled, but the remaining preferences (if any) are still valid and should be distributed as normal.

In any event, a by-election in Ferny Grove looks unlikely.

Yeas.....I think you linked the reference to it, and I agree a by-election is unlikely but those precedents did not stop Bruce McIvor, the LNP Party President mouthing off about there being one. In due course, he (McIvor) will be identified as part of the LNP problem up here.

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Re: The state of Queensland.
Reply #549 - Feb 7^th, 2015 at 6:05pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 7^th, 2015 at 2:48pm:

Sooooo, the Qld LNP have selected their 'new' Leadership Team......with a return to the tired old past. The Borg and JP. Has beens.

Link.

I'm surprised. It is a poisoned chalice at the moment, and I thought they go for a sacrificial lamb like Fiona Simpson, Tim Mander or Scott Emerson.

It shows just how bereft of talent the LNP is ... two old dinosaurs that have failed repeatedly, and they're given another go. It looks like labor will be in for another 20 yrs. Cheesy

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Re: The state of Queensland.
Reply #550 - Feb 7^th, 2015 at 6:25pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 7^th, 2015 at 2:48pm:

Sooooo, the Qld LNP have selected their 'new' Leadership Team......with a return to the tired old past. The Borg and JP. Has beens.

Link.

I'm surprised. It is a poisoned chalice at the moment, and I thought they go for a sacrificial lamb like Fiona Simpson, Tim Mander or Scott Emerson.

you mean shortarse is the sacrificial lamb....wow does he know??.. dont say whats he got to do with this.. because thats what you are claiming the Lib leadership is in Qld...

if it goes with the States its got to go with the Feds thats for sure...and after the debacle of Labor in Fed.. Roll Eyes

I like the look of this guy he looks ok to me....and at least he did have a job with the last govt....

whats whatshername the premier done???...

why are you concentrating on the Libs.. I would have thought you would be singing the praises of what Labor are doing to make life so much more rewarding in Qld.....have they rolled out the red carpet for the bikies??? Grin

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Re: The state of Queensland.
Reply #551 - Feb 7^th, 2015 at 8:00pm

cods wrote on Feb 7^th, 2015 at 6:25pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 7^th, 2015 at 2:48pm:

Sooooo, the Qld LNP have selected their 'new' Leadership Team......with a return to the tired old past. The Borg and JP. Has beens.

Link.

I'm surprised. It is a poisoned chalice at the moment, and I thought they go for a sacrificial lamb like Fiona Simpson, Tim Mander or Scott Emerson.

you mean shortarse is the sacrificial lamb....wow does he know??.. dont say whats he got to do with this.. because thats what you are claiming the Lib leadership is in Qld...

if it goes with the States its got to go with the Feds thats for sure...and after the debacle of Labor in Fed.. Roll Eyes

I like the look of this guy he looks ok to me....and at least he did have a job with the last govt....

whats whatshername the premier done???...

newman? not much

why are you concentrating on the Libs.. I would have thought you would be singing the praises of what Labor are doing to make life so much more rewarding in Qld.....have they rolled out the red carpet for the bikies??? Grin

are you drunk again? what has shorten to do with this?

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Re: The state of Queensland.
Reply #552 - Feb 7^th, 2015 at 8:13pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 7^th, 2015 at 2:15pm:

It would be weird if he even considered it. He is a Queenslander, a failure...and he ought know he would have zero attraction to the local Libs in Indi.

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Campbell Newman was born on 12 August 1963 in Canberra, to parents who later both represented Tasmania in the federal parliament and were both ministers in Liberal–National coalition governments. His father, Kevin, represented the federal seat of Bass from 1975 to 1984, and was a minister in the Fraser government. His mother, Jocelyn Newman (née Mullett), was a Senator for Tasmania (1986–2002) and a minister in the Howard government. Campbell Newman was raised in Tasmania, attending Launceston Church Grammar School, then returned to Canberra.[4]

He joined the Australian Army as a staff cadet at the Royal Military College, Duntroon in 1981, graduating as a lieutenant in 1985.[4] He spent 13 years in the army, resigning in 1993 with the rank of major. At Duntroon he was nicknamed "Noddy", in reference both to his appearance and to his misadventures during his time in the Army.[5] He has an honours degree in civil engineering from the University of New South Wales.[6]

He moved to Queensland, where he graduated with an MBA from the University of Queensland, then worked for the agricultural storage company Grainco, before deciding to stand for election as lord mayor of Brisbane.[4]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campbell_Newman

He has lived just about everywhere in Australia, why wouldn't he move to country Victoria? Grin

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Re: The state of Queensland.
Reply #553 - Feb 7^th, 2015 at 9:35pm

Neferti wrote on Feb 7^th, 2015 at 8:13pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 7^th, 2015 at 2:15pm:

It would be weird if he even considered it. He is a Queenslander, a failure...and he ought know he would have zero attraction to the local Libs in Indi.

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Campbell Newman was born on 12 August 1963 in Canberra, to parents who later both represented Tasmania in the federal parliament and were both ministers in Liberal–National coalition governments. His father, Kevin, represented the federal seat of Bass from 1975 to 1984, and was a minister in the Fraser government. His mother, Jocelyn Newman (née Mullett), was a Senator for Tasmania (1986–2002) and a minister in the Howard government. Campbell Newman was raised in Tasmania, attending Launceston Church Grammar School, then returned to Canberra.[4]

He joined the Australian Army as a staff cadet at the Royal Military College, Duntroon in 1981, graduating as a lieutenant in 1985.[4] He spent 13 years in the army, resigning in 1993 with the rank of major. At Duntroon he was nicknamed "Noddy", in reference both to his appearance and to his misadventures during his time in the Army.[5] He has an honours degree in civil engineering from the University of New South Wales.[6]

He moved to Queensland, where he graduated with an MBA from the University of Queensland, then worked for the agricultural storage company Grainco, before deciding to stand for election as lord mayor of Brisbane.[4]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campbell_Newman

He has lived just about everywhere in Australia, why wouldn't he move to country Victoria? Grin

Yes a real blooper there Aussie. Campbell Newman a Queenslander..??

Now I wonder what you are drinking. Roll Eyes

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Grappler Deep State Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 85477 Always was always will be HOME Gender:	Re: The state of Queensland. Reply #554 - Feb 7^th, 2015 at 9:38pm It seems there is a problem with dynastic politics similar to the British Upper Class Twit of the Year.... too long insulated from the real world seems to warp their minds.
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